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2018/03/04 14:37:34
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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I'm playing a game of World Eaters + Khorne Daemons against a relatively shooty army (not 100% gunline), and i'm wondering if Skarbrand's bonus is worth the threat of him getting lascannoned first turn, or if he's worth it to deepstrike, and bring down when my army is closer to the enemy? For those who don't know, he has an aura that gives ALL friends and foes within 8" the ability to gain +1 attacks, and ignore morale phase. Additionally, opponents can't fallback unless they roll 3d6, and the roll is lower than their leadership.
And in case you are wondering, I do plan to use him with Khorne Bezerkers, to give them +2 attacks total, for a grand total of 8 attacks with a chainaxe per model.
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2018/03/04 14:45:37
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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I think you gotta have at least 1 big unit of bloodletters dropping in with him. His aura does buff the opponent, but that’s the price of raaage!
The beRzerkers* are good buddies for him, but unless they’re dropping in Dreadclaws, or unless Skarbrand is dropping in farther back and not trying to charge on that same turn, he’ll probably get shot up before they reach him.
Waiting to drop him in could work, if he doesn’t have any deep strike support, but how are you going to deal with back field shooting in the early turns?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/03/04 14:46:56
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2018/03/04 15:46:15
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:I think you gotta have at least 1 big unit of bloodletters dropping in with him. His aura does buff the opponent, but that’s the price of raaage!
The beRzerkers* are good buddies for him, but unless they’re dropping in Dreadclaws, or unless Skarbrand is dropping in farther back and not trying to charge on that same turn, he’ll probably get shot up before they reach him.
Waiting to drop him in could work, if he doesn’t have any deep strike support, but how are you going to deal with back field shooting in the early turns?
With my OWN BACK FIELD SHOOTING of course! I am bringing some heavy support that are good with anti-tank, to deal with them. And yeah, I am bringing a unit of bloodletters...So deepstriking them may be a good idea!
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2018/03/04 18:58:17
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Sounds good! Let us know how he does.
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2018/03/04 22:38:12
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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He did fantastic. His morale phase wasn't really needed first turn, so he was really aided by being out of harms way for a turn. By turn 2 I was on top of my enemy, and then I plopped down Skarbrand...It wasn't pretty.
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2018/03/05 01:43:31
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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 vaklor4 wrote:
He did fantastic. His morale phase wasn't really needed first turn, so he was really aided by being out of harms way for a turn. By turn 2 I was on top of my enemy, and then I plopped down Skarbrand...It wasn't pretty.
Bloody battle is very pretty lol. Khorne would be proud!
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2018/03/05 02:20:34
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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vaklor4 wrote:
He did fantastic. His morale phase wasn't really needed first turn, so he was really aided by being out of harms way for a turn. By turn 2 I was on top of my enemy, and then I plopped down Skarbrand...It wasn't pretty.
Yesssss!
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2018/03/06 21:19:07
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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vaklor4 wrote:
He did fantastic. His morale phase wasn't really needed first turn, so he was really aided by being out of harms way for a turn. By turn 2 I was on top of my enemy, and then I plopped down Skarbrand...It wasn't pretty.
Excellent. Just starting out with Khorne Daemons, this is encouraging.
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2018/03/06 21:26:21
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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 techsoldaten wrote: vaklor4 wrote:
He did fantastic. His morale phase wasn't really needed first turn, so he was really aided by being out of harms way for a turn. By turn 2 I was on top of my enemy, and then I plopped down Skarbrand...It wasn't pretty.
Excellent. Just starting out with Khorne Daemons, this is encouraging.
Khorne Daemons are probably (in my opinion) the strongest Daemon god atm. They have only one weak unit, that being the Bloodcrushers and everything else is either just okay (fleshhounds, skullcannons, etc.) or outrageous. (bloodletters, skulltaker, etc.)
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2018/03/06 23:43:04
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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vaklor4 wrote:
He did fantastic. His morale phase wasn't really needed first turn, so he was really aided by being out of harms way for a turn. By turn 2 I was on top of my enemy, and then I plopped down Skarbrand...It wasn't pretty.
Khorne cares not where the blood flows!
Nicely done! Sounds brutal.
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2018/03/06 23:48:18
Subject: Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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 NurglesR0T wrote: vaklor4 wrote:
He did fantastic. His morale phase wasn't really needed first turn, so he was really aided by being out of harms way for a turn. By turn 2 I was on top of my enemy, and then I plopped down Skarbrand...It wasn't pretty.
Khorne cares not where the blood flows!
Nicely done! Sounds brutal.
Well, he and Skulltaker tag teamed a Guilliman on turn 2...So very brutal.
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2018/03/07 00:00:09
Subject: Re:Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Morphing Obliterator
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The alternative is to march him across the field, which nobody with half a brain will allow.
The remaining alternative would be for him to deep strike I believe.
I'm glad to hear holding him out until turn 2 worked for you, I have a list I have been meaning to play which relies on holding him off-table for a turn for a similar setup.
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2018/03/07 00:02:54
Subject: Re:Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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 TwinPoleTheory wrote:The alternative is to march him across the field, which nobody with half a brain will allow.
The remaining alternative would be for him to deep strike I believe.
I've played with a GUO in several games and have come to conclusion that all Greater Daemons should use the strat for deep striking. Otherwise they'll never see past turn 2 and if they do, they will be degraded to the point of no longer being effective.
Automatically Appended Next Post: vaklor4 wrote:
Well, he and Skulltaker tag teamed a Guilliman on turn 2...So very brutal.
One of those rare moments where you want Gulliman to actually pass his roll to stand back up so you can kill him again 
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"Courage and Honour. I hear you murmur these words in the mist, in their wake I hear your hearts beat harder with false conviction seeking to convince yourselves that a brave death has meaning.
There is no courage to be found here my nephews, no honour to be had. Your souls will join the trillion others in the mist shrieking uselessly to eternity, weeping for the empire you could not save.
To the unfaithful, I bring holy plagues ripe with enlightenment. To the devout, I bring the blessing of immortality through the kiss of sacred rot.
And to you, new-born sons of Gulliman, to you flesh crafted puppets of a failing Imperium I bring the holiest gift of all.... Silence."
- Mortarion, The Death Lord, The Reaper of Men, Daemon Primarch of Nurgle
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2018/03/07 00:08:03
Subject: Re:Skarbrand, Deepstrike or no?
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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NurglesR0T wrote: TwinPoleTheory wrote:The alternative is to march him across the field, which nobody with half a brain will allow.
The remaining alternative would be for him to deep strike I believe.
I've played with a GUO in several games and have come to conclusion that all Greater Daemons should use the strat for deep striking. Otherwise they'll never see past turn 2 and if they do, they will be degraded to the point of no longer being effective.
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vaklor4 wrote:
Well, he and Skulltaker tag teamed a Guilliman on turn 2...So very brutal.
One of those rare moments where you want Gulliman to actually pass his roll to stand back up so you can kill him again
Oh, he did stand back up...Player conceded because I had Skulltaker, Skarbrand, 9 Bezerkers and about 30 Bloodletters standing a few inches away. And he rolled a 1 for his health.
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