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So my question is, since orks come with .984 inch bases, that technically means 4 ranks of orks can fight in the fight phase (as the the second ork is techically within 1 inch, and the 4th ork is technically within 1 inch of that ork), is this correct or did GW come out with something stopping this from happening?

 ragetastic wrote:
So my question is, since orks come with .984 inch bases, that technically means 4 ranks of orks can fight in the fight phase (as the the second ork is techically within 1 inch, and the 4th ork is technically within 1 inch of that ork), is this correct or did GW come out with something stopping this from happening?

Why would you think this is incorrect? This is how it's been since 8th dropped. You need to be totally crammed base to base, but that's perfectly fine.

just inquiring, as most armies are required to use the bases they come with, and GW doesn't make 25 mm bases anymore.

It does... GSC come with 25mm, as do Cadians.

 ragetastic wrote:
just inquiring, as most armies are required to use the bases they come with, and GW doesn't make 25 mm bases anymore.

Pretty sure a lot of things still come on 25mm bases. It's just Marines have recently gone up to I think it's 32 now? I know the old problem of Terminators comes up once in a while.

As noted, lots of models are still on 25mm bases (e.g., Astra Militarum, T'au and Aeldari).

There are no rules for base sizes. You can use whatever you want. Rebase SM to 25mm is fine. Put your warlord on a 100mm base to extend its aura ? Nothing in the rules against it.

 p5freak wrote:
There are no rules for base sizes. You can use whatever you want. Rebase SM to 25mm is fine. Put your warlord on a 100mm base to extend its aura ? Nothing in the rules against it.

Conversely nothing in the rules allow it either...

 Ghaz wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
There are no rules for base sizes. You can use whatever you want. Rebase SM to 25mm is fine. Put your warlord on a 100mm base to extend its aura ? Nothing in the rules against it.

Conversely nothing in the rules allow it either...

So what ? It's a forum myth that the rules are permissive. Nothing in the rules says they are.
Feel free to email GW about base sizes, I did. They confirmed that you can use whatever base you want. There are no rules for it. They don't care that models with 25mm bases have an advantage in CC, four ranks can fight, instead of only two with 32mm bases.

Sorry, but it's no 'forum myth' that the rules are permissive.

That's also partly because they realise that they would be screwed if the gave fixed bases sizes as they can't even be consistant within their own model ranges.

Power armour Marines are available on 25, 32 and 40mm bases from GW. Sisters are in powerarmour and have only ever been sold on 25mm. Sisters of silence only come on 32mm.
If they introduced rules it would make current models ineligible for play.

 p5freak wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
There are no rules for base sizes. You can use whatever you want. Rebase SM to 25mm is fine. Put your warlord on a 100mm base to extend its aura ? Nothing in the rules against it.

Conversely nothing in the rules allow it either...

So what ? It's a forum myth that the rules are permissive. Nothing in the rules says they are.
Feel free to email GW about base sizes, I did. They confirmed that you can use whatever base you want. There are no rules for it. They don't care that models with 25mm bases have an advantage in CC, four ranks can fight, instead of only two with 32mm bases.

Its not a forum myth its litterally the way the rules are written.

You could take a rock and put it on the table but until a datasheet gives it attributes and the rules give those attributes permissions it cant do anything.

Ice_can wrote:
That's also partly because they realise that they would be screwed if the gave fixed bases sizes as they can't even be consistant within their own model ranges.

Power armour Marines are available on 25, 32 and 40mm bases from GW. Sisters are in powerarmour and have only ever been sold on 25mm. Sisters of silence only come on 32mm.
If they introduced rules it would make current models ineligible for play.

Because they've never done that before. -Glares at my model of Vect on his Dias-

They need to rip off the plaster and just codify base sizes. If people want to play matched play they need either adaptors or rebase their models.

I'm with you on that one, just strikes me as odd and annoying that they are still selling marines on 25mm bases.
Also that unit that are statline size and armour the same but come on a variable base size. Looking at SoS vrs SoB?
Make a decission and stick to it.
I also wish they would sell 32mm slota bases instead of me having to get a mate to make me some in resin.

Also while GW might not rule on it I wo5ulf imagine TO's would take a dim view as its clearly modeling for advantage.

 Lance845 wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
There are no rules for base sizes. You can use whatever you want. Rebase SM to 25mm is fine. Put your warlord on a 100mm base to extend its aura ? Nothing in the rules against it.

Conversely nothing in the rules allow it either...

So what ? It's a forum myth that the rules are permissive. Nothing in the rules says they are.
Feel free to email GW about base sizes, I did. They confirmed that you can use whatever base you want. There are no rules for it. They don't care that models with 25mm bases have an advantage in CC, four ranks can fight, instead of only two with 32mm bases.

Its not a forum myth its litterally the way the rules are written.

You could take a rock and put it on the table but until a datasheet gives it attributes and the rules give those attributes permissions it cant do anything.

I'm missing something here; does this mean that my Orks aren't legal to play because they're on 32's, and there's nothing saying that they can be on 32's?

Lance845 wrote:
Its not a forum myth its litterally the way the rules are written.

Nothing in the rules says something like you can only do what the rules tell you to do, or similiar. If that would be true, we wouldnt be able to play the game. See BCBs signature.

General Annoyance wrote:
I'm missing something here; does this mean that my Orks aren't legal to play because they're on 32's, and there's nothing saying that they can be on 32's?

Nothing in the official rules says anything about base sizes. You can use whatever base size you want. If you go to a tournament, thats a different story. They may have restrictions on base sizes, because they know that 25mm have an advantage over 32mm.

Has anyone managed to do with with Ork models? They have a pretty big footprint despite their base size.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Has anyone managed to do with with Ork models? They have a pretty big footprint despite their base size.

No, realistically terrain, unit size and unit placement will result in the usual three "ranks" of fighting.

General Annoyance wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
There are no rules for base sizes. You can use whatever you want. Rebase SM to 25mm is fine. Put your warlord on a 100mm base to extend its aura ? Nothing in the rules against it.

Conversely nothing in the rules allow it either...

So what ? It's a forum myth that the rules are permissive. Nothing in the rules says they are.
Feel free to email GW about base sizes, I did. They confirmed that you can use whatever base you want. There are no rules for it. They don't care that models with 25mm bases have an advantage in CC, four ranks can fight, instead of only two with 32mm bases.

Its not a forum myth its litterally the way the rules are written.

You could take a rock and put it on the table but until a datasheet gives it attributes and the rules give those attributes permissions it cant do anything.

I'm missing something here; does this mean that my Orks aren't legal to play because they're on 32's, and there's nothing saying that they can be on 32's?

We are actualy told in rules/errata documents to use whatever we think fits best. That means literally anything for base sizes are legal.

p5freak wrote:

Lance845 wrote:
Its not a forum myth its litterally the way the rules are written.

Nothing in the rules says something like you can only do what the rules tell you to do, or similiar. If that would be true, we wouldnt be able to play the game. See BCBs signature.

Correct, the games rules are written so poorly it actually doesn't work. Many people who frequent this section of the forums are very well aware of that. Every time you shoot an assault weapon after advancing you are using house rules to get the game to function at all. BCBs sig is a testament to GWs gak rules writing. It is what it is.

But hey, if we need a statement specifically telling us we have to follow the rules and that doesn't exist, then when I clap my hands I win the game. Right? Because apparently the game doesn't tell me thats NOT the rule so it must be true!

General Annoyance wrote:
I'm missing something here; does this mean that my Orks aren't legal to play because they're on 32's, and there's nothing saying that they can be on 32's?

Nothing in the official rules says anything about base sizes. You can use whatever base size you want. If you go to a tournament, thats a different story. They may have restrictions on base sizes, because they know that 25mm have an advantage over 32mm.

There is no advantage a bigger bases size has that isn't balance out by it's negatives. TOs can choose to do anything they want. They are all house rules of the tourney and have no baring on the game itself.

Ice_can wrote:
Sisters are in powerarmour and have only ever been sold on 25mm.

Except for Canoness Veridyan. And possibly the Geminae.


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Ice_can wrote:

I also wish they would sell 32mm slota bases instead of me having to get a mate to make me some in resin.

Not sure why they don't show up in the Round bases section, but they do:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/BLOOD-BOWL-BASES-CLAM-2017

Just fill in that round hole for the ball.

 Lance845 wrote:

There is no advantage a bigger bases size has that isn't balance out by it's negatives. TOs can choose to do anything they want. They are all house rules of the tourney and have no baring on the game itself.

While generally true there are always exceptions. If you decided to use frisbees as bases for Spore Mines (because you might have found your local Toys R Us are having a fire sale to get rid of inventory before shuttering and you could get the frisbees cheap), I would say the positives for the Nid player more than outweighs the negatives. This is, of course, just a rare exception. It shouldn't matter as long as you don't get outrageous with your base sized where it's blatant that you're doing it only for advantage.