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MY friend is training up to play ITC games. I'm not overly competitive any more as I don't get very many games each year.
I've given him a good run for his money but haven't beaten him yet this year.
I'm trying something a little different with this list with timed play in mind.

This may be the first list I have posted here, can't recall.

Here's the monstrosity I have written so far.
(I didn't list any points as I wasn't sure it was allowed.)



HQ

Warboss, Kill Choppa and Power Klaw - Warlord

*Weird boy

KFF Big Mek Just choppa

**SAG Mek choppa (May trade out the SAG for a KFF...expectations very low. )

**Pain boy with power Klaw

**WAAAGH Banner Nob

**Nobz Mob 5 with choppas and pistols- transported

**Nobz Mob 5 with choppas and pistols - transported

Boys mob 30 shoota boys

Boys mob 10 with choppas - transported

Boys mob 10 with choppas - transported

Boys mob 10 with choppas - transported

Grots 27

*War bikers mob 6

*War trakk Twin Big Shoota

*War trakk Twin Big Shoota

*War trakk Twin Big Shoota

Bubble Chukka X2

Mek guns KMK's X2

Dakka Jet 6 Suppa Shootas

War trukk Big Shoota

War trukk Big Shoota

War Trukk Big Shoota

War Trukk Big Shoota

1993 of 2000 points. (Yes I plan to spent those last 7 points!)
This is a Battalion + Vanguard + Outrider. 8 command points.
No units have any upgrades beyond the mandatory items unless listed.
Currently I am 7 points under. It's still a work in progress.
Just now I am thinking about trading in the SAG Mek for a second weird boy. Considering adding more a few Nobs or something.

OK, chew it up and let me know what you think.

I'm not shure about the bubble gun... did you try it?
very fluff indeed... send pictures

A couple of things first: give the warboss a single close combat weapon, big choppa or pk. Give max ammo runts to the nobz, they're a 4point ablative wound that can soak a lascannon shot. 6 nobz plus 6 ammo runts are better than 2x5 nobz. Try to give them at least 3 big choppas/pks.

The bubblechukka is terrible and utterly expensive, run them as KMKs which are very good instead.

I'd also avoid the grots.

The banner has little synergy with a list like this with basically only the 30 man mob that footslogs with the nob, and if the weirdboy use da jump on that mob (he should do it) the nob will be on his own. Unless you go with something like 90+ boyz on foot you can skip the waaagh banner.

 petitflacheur wrote:
I'm not shure about the bubble gun... did you try it?
very fluff indeed... send pictures

I've melted space marines with one a few times.
I do want it a bit fluffy but also different than what I usually play.

 Blackie wrote:
A couple of things first: give the warboss a single close combat weapon, big choppa or pk. Give max ammo runts to the nobz, they're a 4point ablative wound that can soak a lascannon shot. 6 nobz plus 6 ammo runts are better than 2x5 nobz. Try to give them at least 3 big choppas/pks.

The bubblechukka is terrible and utterly expensive, run them as KMKs which are very good instead.

I'd also avoid the grots.

The banner has little synergy with a list like this with basically only the 30 man mob that footslogs with the nob, and if the weirdboy use da jump on that mob (he should do it) the nob will be on his own. Unless you go with something like 90+ boyz on foot you can skip the waaagh banner.

If I give up one of the bosses weapons it'll be the power Klaw. He can dish out loads of wounds with the Relic Big Choppa.
The banner is meant to work directly with the Nobs, warboss and painboy and who ever else is in range. I had thought I'd find points for power klaws in the Nobs mob but haven't rounded up the points for them yet.
I have also thought about the Ammo runts for the same reasons I had at one point found points for 3 in each mob.
All the Nobs and characters are going to be fighting in the same place and as close as I can keep them. Well, that's the plan anyway.
Believe it or not the Grots have been working very well for me this edition.
I usually do use da jump but it's become predictable so I am trying war path, also for the Nobz. Or one of the smaller Boys mob. (I'm thinking one of the Nobz mob should be 10 strong. )
I know what your saying about the KMK's. I wen't a little crazy with my collection and now only have 2 KMK's to my name. But I take your point.

I'll cook over the points and see what I can do.

Good to know
Is realy nice to have other point of view on units that are less used and have a bad reputation

 petitflacheur wrote:
Good to know
Is realy nice to have other point of view on units that are less used and have a bad reputation

The key has been roll the dice and assign the lowest dice to the stat it can't hurt the most. So, 2345. I', going to set the 2 to either AP or damage.
Or, Set it to strength. Yes that sucks but if you roll so many less than three you've got to figure it out. Point is it forces the other play to start putting higher numbers where you want them.
If i set it AP2, you might well make it St three. So I set it to 5 shots and were left with 4 damage.
However I have rolled several 5's and 6's and that was fantastic!

Really I only put them in my list to be WYSIWYG with my models.

Cool list. Don't often see that many trukk boyz in lists now a days, which makes me sad. Have you found that the multiple 10 man unit of boyz actually do anything? Obviously the meta now is to take large units of boyz rather than trukk boyz.

You will likely need to run the painboy and the nob with waghh banner in the trukks also since the big boy squad will likely be da jumped up and the boyz being transported will be too fast for the painboy and wagghh banner to keep up. It could work, but there are a lot of ifs, so maybe best to swap one of them out for something else. Running nobz with skorchas and ammo runts is a great strategy, but will hurt your chance at being full WYSIWYG.

Hummm, ill try the bubble canon then,

That can be funny indeed,
thank you

greentide4life wrote:
Cool list. Don't often see that many trukk boyz in lists now a days, which makes me sad. Have you found that the multiple 10 man unit of boyz actually do anything? Obviously the meta now is to take large units of boyz rather than trukk boyz.

You will likely need to run the painboy and the nob with waghh banner in the trukks also since the big boy squad will likely be da jumped up and the boyz being transported will be too fast for the painboy and wagghh banner to keep up. It could work, but there are a lot of ifs, so maybe best to swap one of them out for something else. Running nobz with skorchas and ammo runts is a great strategy, but will hurt your chance at being full WYSIWYG.

I have no idea but I have a plan for them. Roll up to position. Next turn dismount and at the end of that turn mob up two of the small mobs for a 20 strong unit. But I plan to leave 10 boys in their trukk for the following turn. One of two things will happen, my shoota boys will catch up to the trukks or not. If they do I can set the fresh mob out to mob up with them to drag in all the boys to an ongoing combat or just have my LD bubble near the fighting. Not a stellar plan. Or, more likely, mob the fresh mob into the larger trukk mob, from the turn before. Adding more bodies and LD to that combat.
I am planning to have the pain boy in one of the trukks along with the war boss and a Weird boy. (going to try warpath. ) The banner as well. The shoota boys are on their own, unless I take a second Weirdboy to jump the pain boy into range but I see that as a little risky.

I actually have several Nobs with Kombi Scorchas but they cost a lot of points so I haven't used them recently. I have also started to consider a second Pain boy for this list but I have not spent any time looking for the points to do that just yet.

Ok, i did take my dices and tried some rolls for the bubblechukka
That gun is fantastic and funny, i love it... I want to build one

 petitflacheur wrote:
Ok, i did take my dices and tried some rolls for the bubblechukka
That gun is fantastic and funny, i love it... I want to build one

One is probably plenty!
In one game my friend was just fixated on what it might do, he's easily excited. haha.
In my own excitement with the index I built 4 of them. In hind site 2 was probably enough for me.
If it works some magic for you on a regular opponent they will pay it too much mind. Could be good!

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Warboss, Kill Choppa , Kombi schorcha Warlord- GorGak (79)

Weird boy (62) da Jump

Weird boy (62) warpath

KFF Big Mek (75)

KFF Big Mek on war bike (101)



Pain boy with power Klaw (53)

Pain boy with power Klaw (53) + runt 54 points

Nobz Mob 7 with 2 Ammo Runts (144) 3 power Klaws because no reason at all. +39 points



Boys mob 30 shoota boys (180)

Boys mob 10 with choppas (60)

Boys mob 10 with choppas (60)



Boys mob 10 with choppas (60)

Grots 26 (78)



War bikers mob 6 (156))

War trakk Twin Big shoota (47)

War trakk Twin Big shoota (47)

War trakk Twin Big shoota (47)





Bubble chukka X1 (50)

Mek guns KMK's 2 (84)



Dakka Jet 6 Suppa Shootas (148)



War Trukk Big Shoota (82)

War Trukk Big Shoota (82)

War Trukk Big Shoota (82)

War Trukk Big Shoota (82)



2000.

So far as I know the points are right but I have Brain problem today and have gone over the math several times at one point 125 points under at another 75 points over. I'll have to check it again before it's final. but I feel this one is really close to what I want from my list.
I have a plan for how I want to play this list but I have to play it a few times to be able to put it down in words also trial and error.

Chew on it if you like and point out my missteps or anything I may have over looked. I very nearly still had my WAAAGH Banner Nob. Kinda with I still did but don't want to give up the grots to get him.