[KS] Forgotten World - Fireforge's new fantasy range

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**Mysterio**

It all looks nice!

'Starter set' seems a bit pricey, and I don't see a way to get just the rulebook/rule stuff?

Maybe it will be offered up in a future add-on?

**Mymearan**

Those are some amazing prices for high quality fantasy sculpts in HIPS! Granted not many competitors in that field outside of GW (and Mantic... well at least they do fantasy sculpts in HIPS). I might have to buy some stuff I don’t need just to support these guys.

**highlord tamburlaine**

I might have to split a pledge with my usual suspects. I can see us all wanting zombies.

I'd like a few Northmen myself as well.

**Psychopomp**

I might be in for a starter. I'll have to see what sort of ruin Fallout WW leaves my fun money in.

**Gallahad**

Yodhrin wrote:
Well I'll be in at Soldier to begin with since I was planning on getting four boxes anyway, but that could expand rapidly if they hit the fantastical race stretch goals and those are to my taste. The "Folk Rabble" is, I assume, a non-zombified version of the peasants, and I'd have one of those as well for sure(if it included non-zombified dogs and maybe even a couple of kids on the sprue as well, I might buy a couple).

I really appreciate that they're giving people free choice of boxes with each pledge level.

EDIT: Eh, I don't think that applies so much here Gallahad - Fireforge aren't GW size, but they've been producing plastic kits for years. This isn't some random startup venture with one or two dudes trying to leap right in to producing full plastic armies as their first project.

Yodhrin, I hope you are right but momentum matters a lot in a Kickstarter campaign, and depending on what pledge levels people choose they will need roughly 2000-3000 backers before they will fund at the current level. Funding fast is very important for momentum, because it reduces the perceived "riskiness" of pledging. Even though people know that they won't be charged unless it funds, they act like they are charged when they pledge. This is why people drop before a campaign is done if campaigns get into trouble or stall.

**Tonhel**

Gallahad wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
Well I'll be in at Soldier to begin with since I was planning on getting four boxes anyway, but that could expand rapidly if they hit the fantastical race stretch goals and those are to my taste. The "Folk Rabble" is, I assume, a non-zombified version of the peasants, and I'd have one of those as well for sure(if it included non-zombified dogs and maybe even a couple of kids on the sprue as well, I might buy a couple).

I really appreciate that they're giving people free choice of boxes with each pledge level.

EDIT: Eh, I don't think that applies so much here Gallahad - Fireforge aren't GW size, but they've been producing plastic kits for years. This isn't some random startup venture with one or two dudes trying to leap right in to producing full plastic armies as their first project.

Yodhrin, I hope you are right but momentum matters a lot in a Kickstarter campaign, and depending on what pledge levels people choose they will need roughly 2000-3000 backers before they will fund at the current level. Funding fast is very important for momentum, because it reduces the perceived "riskiness" of pledging. Even though people know that they won't be charged unless it funds, they act like they are charged when they pledge. This is why people drop before a campaign is done if campaigns get into trouble or stall.

Gallahed is correct.
Kickstarters nowadays only succeed big if they offer an insane amount of freebies or are more boardgameesque.

**Sikil**

I'll join in at General for sure...

**Hulksmash**

I'd be in for the 8 box and all free characters that unlock. If it goes off awesome, if it doesn't then no biggy.

**lord_blackfang**

I'm in for the 4-box, and ready to switch upwards if any other races unlock.

**frankelee**

Just today I bought Fireforge's plastic foot sergeants, $40 for 48 models, free shipping. It is strange to then be asked to buy in for half that value with a long wait, and I cover the shipping costs to boot. Not my kind of Kickstarter campaign.

**Yodhrin**

frankelee wrote:
Just today I bought Fireforge's plastic foot sergeants, $40 for 48 models, free shipping. It is strange to then be asked to buy in for half that value with a long wait, and I cover the shipping costs to boot. Not my kind of Kickstarter campaign.

Yes, it's the kind of Kickstarter campaign made for people who don't consider the scale & aesthetic of models interchangeable.

**frankelee**

Yodhrin wrote:
frankelee wrote:
Just today I bought Fireforge's plastic foot sergeants, $40 for 48 models, free shipping. It is strange to then be asked to buy in for half that value with a long wait, and I cover the shipping costs to boot. Not my kind of Kickstarter campaign.

Yes, it's the kind of Kickstarter campaign made for people who don't consider the scale & aesthetic of models interchangeable.

That is one of the things I like best about these historical minis, though I have yet to experience any significant difference in scales with my collection. Did they rescale this fantasy line to not fit with their historical one then? I read it was 28mm, though they looked pretty close in height to old GW and Ice and Fire in their comparison pictures.

**insaniak**

There's a scale comparison in the first post in this thread.

**Hulksmash**

Yeah, they just look more inscale for AoS really. Which is why I'm considering grabbing some. Build my "Freeguild" style army with them and add some stuff to my undead. Those undead soldiers will make great grave guard.

**Lord Ekard**

frankelee wrote:
Just today I bought Fireforge's plastic foot sergeants, $40 for 48 models, free shipping. It is strange to then be asked to buy in for half that value with a long wait, and I cover the shipping costs to boot. Not my kind of Kickstarter campaign.

yes, really nice, sadly their price is 45 us dollars and not 40
foot sergeants have not command option, haven't options to customize the models, have just 6 different poses and so much less than these new figures... it is not a good comparison

**frankelee**

Lord Ekard wrote:
frankelee wrote:
Just today I bought Fireforge's plastic foot sergeants, $40 for 48 models, free shipping. It is strange to then be asked to buy in for half that value with a long wait, and I cover the shipping costs to boot. Not my kind of Kickstarter campaign.

yes, really nice, sadly their price is 45 us dollars and not 40
foot sergeants have not command option, haven't options to customize the models, have just 6 different poses and so much less than these new figures... it is not a good comparison

Certainly, to all you say. I did buy them for $40, I didn't want to report it dishonestly though I realize MSRP might vary. Perhaps in the future the set can expand to include less customizable, less special box sets at normal prices, then people can mix in the fancier plastic pieces with the normal ones. Just an idea, though. I note a mildly combative tone in responses on here as well, I understand that's the norm for Dakka Dakka, but I do think it is to everyone's benefit to not assume another salt fight online when commenting. It doesn't help the conversation, it doesn't help the website, and it certainly doesn't help drive sales.

**Lord Ekard**

frankelee wrote:
Lord Ekard wrote:
frankelee wrote:
Just today I bought Fireforge's plastic foot sergeants, $40 for 48 models, free shipping. It is strange to then be asked to buy in for half that value with a long wait, and I cover the shipping costs to boot. Not my kind of Kickstarter campaign.

yes, really nice, sadly their price is 45 us dollars and not 40
foot sergeants have not command option, haven't options to customize the models, have just 6 different poses and so much less than these new figures... it is not a good comparison

Certainly, to all you say. I did buy them for $40, I didn't want to report it dishonestly though I realize MSRP might vary. Perhaps in the future the set can expand to include less customizable, less special box sets at normal prices, then people can mix in the fancier plastic pieces with the normal ones. Just an idea, though.

Maybe I'm reading wrong, but it seems you are suggesting that after this campaign we will decrease the quality of our fantasy kits. I think that if you will give a look to the story of Fireforge company, you will find that we don't work in this way: you will find that our company worked product by product with the intention of increase quality of our kits (in plastic and resin) or listening the requests from community (it's only for the continue requests by 9thage community if we started to do some fantasy models)

I note a mildly combative tone in responses on here as well, I understand that's the norm for Dakka Dakka, but I do think it is to everyone's benefit to not assume another salt fight online when commenting. It doesn't help the conversation, it doesn't help the website, and it certainly doesn't help drive sales.

I'm sorry for that, was not my intention, i just wanted to give well better informations, i don't know why you thought that, probably is due to my worst english (our first language is italian), i apologize for that

**Lord Ekard**

Kickstarter campaign link will go offline today to update the campaign following your feedbacks

Thanks a lot to everyone

**StygianBeach**

Cool, do you change the name 'Forgotten World' to something more interesting?

**Lord Ekard**

We don't, we like it

**sockwithaticket**

Lord Ekard wrote:
frankelee wrote:
Lord Ekard wrote:
frankelee wrote:
Just today I bought Fireforge's plastic foot sergeants, $40 for 48 models, free shipping. It is strange to then be asked to buy in for half that value with a long wait, and I cover the shipping costs to boot. Not my kind of Kickstarter campaign.

yes, really nice, sadly their price is 45 us dollars and not 40
foot sergeants have not command option, haven't options to customize the models, have just 6 different poses and so much less than these new figures... it is not a good comparison

Certainly, to all you say. I did buy them for $40, I didn't want to report it dishonestly though I realize MSRP might vary. Perhaps in the future the set can expand to include less customizable, less special box sets at normal prices, then people can mix in the fancier plastic pieces with the normal ones. Just an idea, though.

Maybe I'm reading wrong, but it seems you are suggesting that after this campaign we will decrease the quality of our fantasy kits. I think that if you will give a look to the story of Fireforge company, you will find that we don't work in this way: you will find that our company worked product by product with the intention of increase quality of our kits (in plastic and resin) or listening the requests from community (it's only for the continue requests by 9thage community if we started to do some fantasy models)

I note a mildly combative tone in responses on here as well, I understand that's the norm for Dakka Dakka, but I do think it is to everyone's benefit to not assume another salt fight online when commenting. It doesn't help the conversation, it doesn't help the website, and it certainly doesn't help drive sales.

I'm sorry for that, was not my intention, i just wanted to give well better informations, i don't know why you thought that, probably is due to my worst english (our first language is italian), i apologize for that

I think he ment other posters defending Fireforge and the KS rather than you, Eckard.

In fairness to them I think it's pretty plain from everything we've seen that comparing you historical kits to these is like comparing applles and pomegranates; i.e the new kits are a very different proposition and comparing them with your past offerings isnt a helpful way to judge the value they offer.

**Lord Ekard**

Clear, thanks a lot, my intention is just to avoid any misunderstanding

**StygianBeach**

Lord Ekard wrote:
We don't, we like it

Understood

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**pancakeonions**

Forgotten World is a cool name! Why don't you like it?

**Hulksmash**

I like the interchangable nature of the kits. Especially the humans. It looks like I could easily mix and match from any of the archer/knight/infantry kits to build models which is great!

**highlord tamburlaine**

Sadly there already was a Forgotten World, and some of us have never forgotten it!!

Spoiler:

**Lord Ekard**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Sadly there already was a Forgotten World, and some of us have never forgotten it!!

Spoiler:

need. i really need to play it NOW.

**StygianBeach**

pancakeonions wrote:
Forgotten World is a cool name! Why don't you like it?

For one it makes me think of Jungle Ruins, or lost some kind of lost ancient civilization where as what we have seen so far looks like contemporary Humans vs contemporary zombies.

I would like to see the Forgotten World in the minis, not so much the humans but in the enemy at least. I think a name like 'Forgotten Evil' fits the theme better.

I would also love something more Italian, like World Forgotten, or Evil Forgotten.

**Mysterio**

Great game - with a rather funky control scheme that's nigh impossible to replicate via 'modern day' controllers on a good MAME setup.

You'll need a dedicated controller set up to really enjoy it - and at that point, just go full stand up cabinet too!

As for this thread - launch the Kickstarter already!

**Smokestack**

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