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Hi all,

Would be great to get your opinions on this list, welcoming all comments and criticisms!

Here is the list:

Tactic: have a blob of Devastators, with the company veterans and lieutenant supporting to counter anyone getting too close.

Scouts hold middle ground and make way for my deep striking.

Have the captain and inceptors working together, and sang guard and sanguinor working together, as 2 take all comers groups to do most of the work.

I've also thought about a librarian instead of the Sanguinor to save points, but that leaves me with a very squishy warlord.

1999pts

HQ
Captain
Jump Pack, Storm shield, The Angel's Wing (replaces jump pack), Thunder hammer

Lieutenant
Master-crafted boltgun, Power axe, The Veritas Vitae


The Sanguinor (Warlord)


Troops

Scout Squads x 6

5 x boltguns, inferno pistol on sergeant.


Elites

Company Veterans (2 marines)
Both with Power axe, Storm bolter

Company Veterans (2 marines)
Both with Power axe, Storm bolter

Sanguinary Guard

10 x Angelus boltgun, Encarmine axe



Fast Attack

Inceptor Squad
3 marines,plasma exterminators

Inceptor Squad
3 marines,plasma exterminators


Scout Bike Squad
Storm bolter on sergeant



Heavy Support

Devastator Squad
Armorium Cherub, 2 x Lascannon


Devastator Squad
Armorium Cherub, 2 x Lascannon



Devastator Squad
Armorium Cherub, 1 x Lascannon

Bump

The list looks ok. Personally I would spend 3 command points and make the captain a chapter master, make sure you deploy the lieutenant first so you can roll for the command point. And then keep him with the Devastators. Rerolls for days.

Are you able to flesh out the Devastators with extra bodies so you dont loose your lascannons as fast?

Which stratagems are you planning on using?

I wouldnt run the sanguinor. The +1 attack can be done by a librarian, he is also cheaper, can smite, and deny the witch. Plasma inceptors are insanely expensive, my captain slamguinius once wiped out 5 of 6 with his hammer, thats 354 pts. killed by 129 pts. He had angels wings, so no overwatch. They do hit very hard, but arent very tough. I would add an sanguinary priest, or a company ancient with standard of sacrifice, if you really want to use them.




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Dwro1234 wrote:
Personally I would spend 3 command points and make the captain a chapter master.

BA dont have the chapter master stratagem. And i dont think its worth it.

Thanks for the comments, much appreciated!

Yes unfortunately chapter master isn't an option for me, but it's a good point about having enough ablative wounds on the devs. I only gave them a couple of lascannons each in the hope they would have some extra wounds, as points are a real issue in a brigade.

I am tempted by the librarian, but what are your thoughts on his survivability? 3+, no invun feels scary to have on my warlord!

I also thought about using the points saved by having a librarian to have 2 intercessor squads instead of 2 of the scout squads for some more durability, thoughts?


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And I know that inceptors are pricey, but they're great for arriving and blowing stuff up, especially with the 18 inch range. I'd like to keep them if I can, with the aim to place them in as safe a way I can to avoid the counter attack.

Would you suggest an alternative to them instead? I basically want a jump pack unit (because fluff) that can land and support the sanguiniary guard, without needing the 3d6 charge stratagem as that's what the sang guard will be using (eg ranged instead of cc).

You can use shield of sanguinius on the librarian to give him 5++. Mephiston is even better than a JP librarian. As an alternative to plasma inceptors i recommend bolter inceptors. Or company vets with JP. You can give them stormbolters and chainswords to keep them cheap. They can do 20 bolter shots after deepstriking, and 16 melee attacks. You can even give them plasmaguns and powerswords, if you want to. But i wouldnt, keep them cheap, they serve as ablative wounds for characters, they have the bodyguard rule, when a character loses a wound they can intercept it on 2+, but suffer a mortal wound. If you have the ancient with standard of sacrifice nearby the vets have a 5+++ roll against that mortal wound. And if you add a sang priest novitiate he can revive killed company vets, which then can intercept wounds wounds from your character(s) again But this gets pricey, and you could add more vets for the price of the sang priest. He can only revive one killed model per turn, and only on 4+.

Yeah true I can give him some invun with his psychic powers. Only thing is keeping the cost down - I'm always tempted to add more characters for those strong bubbles but it quickly becomes pricey / a hard thing to manage on the tabletop if not all of them make the charge. I love the idea of the standard of sacrifice, but the fact its only models within 6 rather than units, it feels like that would be one of those things that's great on paper but not as effective in practice? How have you found it?

Bolter vets sound like a great idea too, I'll definitely consider it. Only issue is I sort of need the plasma as a way of dealing with stronger units like vehicles / TEQ, as otherwise that's a lot for the sang guard and lascannon devs to have to deal with by themselves.

WHAT DO you think?


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Oh and I would use Mephiston all day every day, if only that man has a jump pack to arrive with the sang guard!

Mephiston can take a jump pack... It costs 85 points and is listed in the dedicated transport section of the codex

Thats not a JP

Haha yes I did consider that, but even Mephiston is a bit too pricey when you need that to make it work, I can't find a way to fit it in to the brigade points wise unfortunately.