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"Invulnerable saves cannot be taken against the first close combat attack made by this character this phase."

What is a "first attack"?

It means the first attack you roll and resolve per the 'Resolve Attacks' step.

That means if you fluff your first attack's roll to hit you don't benefit from the rule.

What a lot of people mix up or forget about is that technically all die rolls should be done one at a time, the fast-dice rule exists for when the order of the die rolls don't matter (or don't matter in a meaningful way).

So in the case of Entropic Strike you either roll for your "first attack" separately, or pick a different coloured die and designate it as such to your opponent (however it could be argued you would forfeit your chance to re-roll the entropic strike die if you do, since you now have information after the "first attack" on how well your attack did... So just roll it separately...)

Another more generic example would be if you have a unit of 10 necron warriors, 8 of which are in ruins and 2 who straggled behind. If they are hit by 8 bolter shots you can then roll 2 saves at a time until one dies, then 1 die, until the two warriors who were out of cover are dead. Then your unit benefits from cover for the rest of the shooting attack.

If you roll all 8 saves at once, then no one would benefit from cover.

RejjeN wrote:
What a lot of people mix up or forget about is that technically all die rolls should be done one at a time, the fast-dice rule exists for when the order of the die rolls don't matter (or don't matter in a meaningful way).

So in the case of Entropic Strike you either roll for your "first attack" separately, or pick a different coloured die and designate it as such to your opponent (however it could be argued you would forfeit your chance to re-roll the entropic strike die if you do, since you now have information after the "first attack" on how well your attack did... So just roll it separately...)

Another more generic example would be if you have a unit of 10 necron warriors, 8 of which are in ruins and 2 who straggled behind. If they are hit by 8 bolter shots you can then roll 2 saves at a time until one dies, then 1 die, until the two warriors who were out of cover are dead. Then your unit benefits from cover for the rest of the shooting attack.

If you roll all 8 saves at once, then no one would benefit from cover.

^^ This. Fast rolling is ONLY for cases where it does not matter. If it would matter you MUST do them one at a time.

Just to be clear:

Let's say there is a Necron Overlord in close combat, it has been chosen to attack and has a base of 3 attacks.

Is "first close combat attack" one of those three or all three?

This is a stratagem that costs 1CP, one would hope it is all three.

 Draco765 wrote:
Just to be clear:

Let's say there is a Necron Overlord in close combat, it has been chosen to attack and has a base of 3 attacks.

Is "first close combat attack" one of those three or all three?

This is a stratagem that costs 1CP, one would hope it is all three.

It's one. If it were three it would have to say "the first time this model fights."