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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yet to see an assault 'Mech. Seen everything up to Grasshopper in size.

Ditto - biggest I've seen are a Grasshopper and a Black Knight.

I'm loving the fluff pop-ups - I've just had to decide if I'm telling off my crew for skinny-dipping...

Looking through some of the mods, heavier mechs are tied to story missions. If you don't like that there is a mod that changes it.

 Wolfblade wrote:
Looking through some of the mods, heavier mechs are tied to story missions. If you don't like that there is a mod that changes it.

There are mods already?

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:
Looking through some of the mods, heavier mechs are tied to story missions. If you don't like that there is a mod that changes it.

There are mods already?

https://www.nexusmods.com/battletech

Not a huge amount--39, to be exact--and some might be a little shaky on balance, or purposefully overpowered, but still a selection.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:
Looking through some of the mods, heavier mechs are tied to story missions. If you don't like that there is a mod that changes it.

There are mods already?

Yeah, nothing groundbreaking like new mechs, but rebalances, or adding star league tech to shops, or skipping the intro missions.

 Wolfblade wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:
Looking through some of the mods, heavier mechs are tied to story missions. If you don't like that there is a mod that changes it.

There are mods already?

Yeah, nothing groundbreaking like new mechs, but rebalances, or adding star league tech to shops, or skipping the intro missions.

Thanks for the link Avatar

Not using any at the moment - Wolfbalde there is a mod for new mechs

https://www.nexusmods.com/battletech/mods/18

Adds 51 New 'Mech variants to the Skirmish portion of the game (working on the DB to add them into the Campaign as well - I will update once I do) Also adds 14 New Vehicle variants, in preparation to be added to the Campaign.

I will wait and see what DLC and add ons the main team come uop with.

Ah, interesting must have missed that, thanks! Coming up on the end of my first game, so I've been looking for ways to make the next more interesting.

 Mr Morden wrote:

Checked the FAQs and they have this:

We’re excited by the great re-imagined 'Mechs Piranha and Catalyst have done for some of those “imperially entangled” ‘Mechs. We're excited that the Marauder and Warhammer will be in our game.

Yes, and then they were removed, because Harmony Gold is suing everyone. Again. Mother fethers are even trying to claim that the Atlas was ripped off Robotech designs this time around.

Their case against HBS was dismissed with prejudice the week before last, but as the Marauder/Warhammer models are derived from PGI's MWO models, they still cannot be used as the case between HG and PGI is ongoing. As is the case against In Media Res/Catalyst Games, the makers of BTech proper.

They also removed the Raven from the game, but that's for different reasons (they couldn't figure out how to make ECM work). As a replacement they added the K2 Catapult variant, and also added the Black Knight 'Mech.

ECM should be easy:
1. No Sensor lock of allied units within radius.
2. Auto sensor locks own target so long as multi target skill is not being used.

That would do it. Ravens should be in full production at this time but under strict lock and key. They were not distributed prior to the Fourth Succession War.

I got a Grasshopper!

I was so excited about finally moving past that one story mission.

Then in the second round, he got knocked down, focus fired, and when his arm got blown off I quit angrily. Maybe I'll try again when I get even more tonnage. I saw a Jager but I couldn't get it whole - he was doing too much damage to my bros.

I am really enjoying the game except for this one mission I am stuck on

Also, kind of hard to believe that head injuries really are working as intended but ok, whatever.

I actually get barely any head injuries.

Though saying that I’m sure next mission I play Dekker will get instakilled by a stray AC round.

See, I've never had that happen (so far) - whenever I've lost a pilot, I've always seen it coming ahead of time, either after a lot of attrition or during a sequence of bad but plausible events, like a knockdown and a lance's worth of focus firing.


Hey, side note. have you guys ever noticed that like... the AI will sometimes seemingly adapt to your tactics? I feel like this game can't possibly have the capability of doing it, but if you form a gun line like battleships, the AI is cool with doing that all day long. If you leapfrog over a mech to shoot into the rear armor, though, the AI will start jockeying you for position to do the same. Same for melee - I've never really seen the AI typically initiate physical attacks, but if I do one, then the AI will start doing them that drop even with mechs that were out of range - they will close and melee instead of shooting.

Maybe just coincidental but I've seen it kind of a few times now.

 Avatar 720 wrote:


Now I've got hold of a Highlander and a Battlemaster, though, I'll be making a few changes.

Bought or salvaged? Which planet/missions?

Nothing over 65 tons on my campaign so far (and haven't been able to salvage a full heavy mech yet, everything 55 and under so far).

This should be called thunderbolt tech lol, every mission it’s at least 3 Tbolts

 -Loki- wrote:
I actually get barely any head injuries.

Though saying that I’m sure next mission I play Dekker will get instakilled by a stray AC round.

Dekker just got killed in mine last night - veteran pilot in his Spider - was ultra careful with every mech for an entire game as had been warned in the deploy screen "I should bring more firepower" than I had.

Killed off the vehicles with no real damage and then the turrets of the pirate base, Pirate mechs appeared - picked them off after checking what they were - again minor damage not even a armour breech.

Last enemy mech standing (just) - I stepped around the corner to finish it off with the Spider didn't quite manage it and it ran over - punched him in the head and killed him!

Slightly annoyed

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

Checked the FAQs and they have this:

We’re excited by the great re-imagined 'Mechs Piranha and Catalyst have done for some of those “imperially entangled” ‘Mechs. We're excited that the Marauder and Warhammer will be in our game.

Yes, and then they were removed, because Harmony Gold is suing everyone. Again. Mother fethers are even trying to claim that the Atlas was ripped off Robotech designs this time around.

Their case against HBS was dismissed with prejudice the week before last, but as the Marauder/Warhammer models are derived from PGI's MWO models, they still cannot be used as the case between HG and PGI is ongoing. As is the case against In Media Res/Catalyst Games, the makers of BTech proper.

They also removed the Raven from the game, but that's for different reasons (they couldn't figure out how to make ECM work). As a replacement they added the K2 Catapult variant, and also added the Black Knight 'Mech.

Ah thanks for the info

Was this in an update I missed - looked through the KS page and could not see it? I do like my K2 in MWO

Hmm so whats Natasha going to be driving I wonder......

Working on a house steiner scout lance here, up to 2 of the 4 atlas I need so far.

jouso wrote:

 Avatar 720 wrote:


Now I've got hold of a Highlander and a Battlemaster, though, I'll be making a few changes.

Bought or salvaged? Which planet/missions?

Nothing over 65 tons on my campaign so far (and haven't been able to salvage a full heavy mech yet, everything 55 and under so far).

From the story mission where Assaults are introduced. You're guaranteed the Highlander--not sure what happens in the very unlikely event it goes down--but if you're tactical/a little lucky enough you can get another whole Assault out of it.

I picked up a second complete Battlemaster from another story mission last night, too, in the easiest battle I've fought so far.


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Just done the Defense of Panzyr mission, and I feel like the secondary barracks objective there is purely to annoy people. Unless you go into the mission with knowledge of it beforehand, or you just happen to still be dragging a speedy light mech around with you all the time, you won't complete it. Ever. There's simply not enough time.

Leaves one hell of a sour taste knowing that there was nothing I could've done about that objective if I hadn't researched the mission on the internet or reloaded it after finding out, or just happened to still have a Jenner or a Firestarter on hand this late into the game.

There's been sod-all other motivation to have a Light mech with me after the early game, so to suddenly spring this one you, after the story has already potentially given you 3 complete Assault mechs, feels silly.

Just got a second Orion, so now I can field a full heavy lance if I want (2 Orions, 1 Thunderbolt, 1 Jagermech). Trying to get my pilots to the point where they act one initiative step before.

A full lance of heavies going when mediums go would be wonderful!

Pretty sure the AI is determined to make sure Dekker dies. His last mission in his Spider 5 LRM/SRM carriers came out of nowhere, singled him out, knocked him down and put flight after flight of missiles into him until his spider was just little pieces.

If I wasn't such a shameless save scummer he'd have been gone, but I like him.

Finally beat the first story mission (yeah, I play games slowly). Those last 2 mechs had my lance on the verge of heat shutdown. They were already at their limit from dealing with the previous lance, and out walks a heavy and a medium. By the end, my mechs were so heat damaged it cost me a small fortune to repair them, but that loot was worth it.

Also got my first crash. Yay.

So, what's everyone's favourite loadouts? I usually run a mech loaded with LRMs (how ever many it can carry), a mid range mech (ac10s backed up by mlasers and SRMs) then a couple crawlers (max armor, jump jets and either 2 AC20s with either two SRMs or mlasers, or one AC20 then packed full of mlasers and as many SRMs as I can fit).

Honestly I think the balance could use some work overall. I want to like PPCs, but their heat usage is insane, and anything below an AC10 is just too heavy for how little damage it does later on, and Llasers just generate insane heat compared to mlasers, especially once you factor in that you can have 3 mlasers for every Llaser while Llasers only deal double of a Mlaser. On top of that, SRM4s are in a weirdly efficient place heatwise (2s are 3 heat per missile, 4s are 2 per, and 6s are 2.33 iirc) but overall SRMs are fantastic. It's not too huge, but it feels like late game is where a lot of build diversity dies compared to mid or early game where everything has it's use.

 Avatar 720 wrote:


There's been sod-all other motivation to have a Light mech with me after the early game, so to suddenly spring this one you, after the story has already potentially given you 3 complete Assault mechs, feels silly.

Just like tabletop battletech then

I did the mad Locust goose chase in Mech Commander as much as the next guy, but it was a gimmick due to poor AI.

 Wolfblade wrote:
So, what's everyone's favourite loadouts? I usually run a mech loaded with LRMs (how ever many it can carry), a mid range mech (ac10s backed up by mlasers and SRMs) then a couple crawlers (max armor, jump jets and either 2 AC20s with either two SRMs or mlasers, or one AC20 then packed full of mlasers and as many SRMs as I can fit).

Honestly I think the balance could use some work overall. I want to like PPCs, but their heat usage is insane, and anything below an AC10 is just too heavy for how little damage it does later on, and Llasers just generate insane heat compared to mlasers, especially once you factor in that you can have 3 mlasers for every Llaser while Llasers only deal double of a Llaser. On top of that, SRM4s are in a weirdly efficient place heatwise (2s are 3 heat per missile, 4s are 2 per, and 6s are 2.33 iirc) but overall SRMs are fantastic. It's not too huge, but it feels like late game is where a lot of build diversity dies compared to mid or early game where everything has it's use.

Jaegar: 3 ac/5

Orion: 3 srm 6 ac/20

Catapult K2: 2 ac/5 4 med laser

Stalker: 6 med laser, 4 srm6

Thunderbolt: 6 med laser, ppc

Thunderbolt: 2 srm6 ac/10 3 med laser

Vindicator: 5 med laser

Jenner: srm4 4 med laser

Highlander: 2 ac/10, 3 med laser, 2/3 srm 6

My Mech as are not far off stock and still only have one heavy! a JaegerMech

Completed 2nd reclamation story mission - that was quite hard - narrowly failed on first attempt, reloaded and managed on second. Money still tight as the ship well on the way to fully functional.

Main Lance
My Best pilot is Medusa with her Vindicator - stock with enhanced Gyro+ (+2 Dam), PPC+ (+5 dam), less JJ more HS's - she is high level veteran and so her overheat is very high and seldom occurs and then she is there to punch 'em out.
Me usually in jaeger with 4 AC2 and 4 Med lasers - my pilot is also high level Vet
ShadowHawk 2h - stock
Used to be Dekker in a Spider as scout but that's gone - so usually another ShadowHawk, Enforcer or Blackjack with Regular newer pilots.

I'm very much enjoying direct fire support (autocannons and ppcs) but I've started mixing in brawlers with SRMs cause damn is melee effective. One of my best mechs at the moment is my Panther (piloted by Dekker). Constant jump jetting around the battlefield to gain evasion and maxed armor is really tanky for a 35 tonner. I swapped out the PPC to put in four medium lasers and most of the mechs I kill now are my Panther finishing off targets softened by the fire support mechs.

 Mr Morden wrote:
My Mech as are not far off stock and still only have one heavy! a JaegerMech

How? The first story mission practically hands you 2.

Got my second heavy an Orion. Used it to ruthlessly destroy a scout lance, but then a one-legged no armed wolverine DFA'd my Gunnery9 Jagermech pilot who died instantly, despite his mech's head being perfectly unharmed.

I tried progressing, but I really think I'm going to reload that one.

On a side note, I'm enjoying Autocannons. I don't think that's ever happened in a BT game before - I normally swap them out as soon as I can. I'm also happy to notice that most of my fellow players are playing without duplicate mechs in their lances - as MechaJeebus intended!

 -Loki- wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
My Mech as are not far off stock and still only have one heavy! a JaegerMech

How? The first story mission practically hands you 2.

Which ones? I have lots of "bits" like 2/3 of a Quickdraw but no actual Hv Mech apart from the Jaeger. Got 2/3 of a Dragon, 2/3 of Grasshopper, etc....

Your probably a better player than me

I finished up the campaign, and I went to Davion space. I had an assassination mission, and I had to take down a Highlander. The evac zone was guarded by 8 assault mechs, all of whom had the +1 initiative perk, who had a ton of knockdown weapons.

That withdraw button couldn't be hit fast enough.

Just played a few side missions and got the parts needed for a Thunderbolt, Grasshopper and Quickdraw without taking any real damage

So my Mech company is now much better - great game this

Apparently my friends most exciting feature is that you can chose singular they as your pronoun of choice. Not because of any LGBT stuff or SJW whatever but because he is apparently super excited that singular they isn't just something he does (I do it to but I know people who don't understand the idea of singular they).

Some people are just easy to please I guess XD