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Kabal of the Black Heart Battalion +5 CP

1x Archon @ 70
WL (Labyrinthine Cunning)
W/ Splinter pistol, Huskblade
*relic: Writ of Living Muse*

1x Archon @ 80
W/ Blast Pistol, Huskblade

20 Kabalite Warriors @ 208
W/ 4x Blaster, 2x Splinter Cannon

10 Kabalite Warriors @ 80
W/ 1x Dark Lance

10 Kabalite Warriors @ 80
W/ 1x Dark Lance

Raider @ 82
W/ Disintegrator, Grisly Trophies
(Haemy, 4x Grots, 1x WL Succy ride here)

Raider @ 80
W/ Disintegrator
(10x Wyches ride here)

Raider @ 80
W/ Disintegrator
(5x Wyches, 1x Succy, 1x Archon ride here)

5x Scourges @ 92
W/ 4x HWB

5x Scourges @ 128
W/ 4x Blasters

Ravager @ 125
W/ 3x Disintegrator

Ravager @ 125
W/ 3x Disintegrator

Ravager @ 140
W/ 3x Darklance


Cult of Strife Battalion +5 CP
(+1 atk when charging, being charged, or HI)

1x Succubus @ 54
WL Trait via strategem: Blood Dancer
(Roll 6+ to hit becomes 3 hits)
*relic: Triptych Whip* (+3 attacks)
Drugs: +1 attack

1x Succubus @ 60
W/ Archite glaive, Blast Pistol
Drugs: +1 to weapon skill

5 Wyches @ 45
W/ Shardnet and Impaler
Drugs: +1 toughness

5 Wyches @ 45
W/ Shardnet and Impaler
Drugs: +1 strength

5 Wyches @ 45
W/ Shardnet and Impaler
Drugs: +2 movement

Prophets of Flesh Vanguard +1 CP
(+1 to invulnerable saves)

1x Haemonculous @ 81
W/ Electrocorrosive Whip, Stinger Pistol
WL Trait via strategem: Diabolical Soothsayer
*relic: Vexator Mask*

4x Grotesques @ 140

5x Mandrakes @ 80

5x Mandrakes @ 80


2000 points
14+d3 CP to start and CP regen
(-3 for relics, -1 for alliance of agony, -1 for WWP= 9+d3 CP)

This alliance is not a bad list.
Target saturation is key against a shooty opponent.
Who's the warlord?

 wuestenfux wrote:
This alliance is not a bad list.
Target saturation is key against a shooty opponent.
Who's the warlord?

I don't know for sure off the top of my head, but I believe that the stratagem requires the archon to be the actual warlord.

It does say on the archon: WL(Labyrinthine Cunning); while it says: WL trait via stratagem; on the succubus and the haemonculous

 snykyninja wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
This alliance is not a bad list.
Target saturation is key against a shooty opponent.
Who's the warlord?

I don't know for sure off the top of my head, but I believe that the stratagem requires the archon to be the actual warlord.

It does say on the archon: WL(Labyrinthine Cunning); while it says: WL trait via stratagem; on the succubus and the haemonculous

Snykninja is correct, though I will probably make the non- relic archon the WL so that he is less of a target.

I'll preface this with "I run a silly amount of boats in my army".
But I'm looking at this list and I see 3 Raiders, 3 Ravagers, and 3 footslogging squads.

With the Mandrakes in reserve and something (big foot squad?) going in the WWP I mostly find myself thinking 'won't he just get shot off the board Turn 1?'

I like a lot of your individual builds, but as a cohesive army I think you're really lacking in firepower and survivability for Turn 1, and from there it feels like you'd go downhill as the game advances.

I'd probably opt to upgrade the haywire blaster Scourges to straight Blasters at the very least, I'd advocate the increased damage output to be well worth the price of dealing with the extra cost and opponent getting invulnerable saves. I'd suggest that's a better darklight investment than the handful of blast pistols also.

He is starting with 60 t5 4+/5++/6+++ wounds on the board. That's not easy to get through.

It takes on average 10 shots before feel no pain from any str 6-10 d6 damage weaponry to kill 1 raider. High volume of fire str 6 or 7 2 damage shots is their biggest threats, but these weapons aren't necessarily common (in my meta at least).

If you find that hard to get through, wouldn't the idea of starting with more of those wounds on the table be even better?

I've tried several times a list with all my vehicles (5 venoms, 2 raiders, 3 ravagers and the bomber) under the Black Heart obsession, they're very durable with that 6++. In fact at the moment the Black Heart obsession is my favorite one mostly because of the 6++ on vehicles and the warlord trait.

 Thor665 wrote:
If you find that hard to get through, wouldn't the idea of starting with more of those wounds on the table be even better?

Me personally, yes. That's why I run full mech.
But I can see merit with a turn 2 deep strike assault force, due to the fact the vehicles are fine durability wise.




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 Blackie wrote:
I've tried several times a list with all my vehicles (5 venoms, 2 raiders, 3 ravagers and the bomber) under the Black Heart obsession, they're very durable with that 6++. In fact at the moment the Black Heart obsession is my favorite one mostly because of the 6++ on vehicles and the warlord trait.

Agreed. I was all about the flayed skull kabalites but found myself drawn more and more to the black heart. I think if you are running ravagers black heart is a no brainer. If you are playing more venoms or fliers instead of the ravagers then flayed skull has some merit. But the ravagers with the archon and writ is just too strong to pass up.

 Thor665 wrote:
I'll preface this with "I run a silly amount of boats in my army".
But I'm looking at this list and I see 3 Raiders, 3 Ravagers, and 3 footslogging squads.

With the Mandrakes in reserve and something (big foot squad?) going in the WWP I mostly find myself thinking 'won't he just get shot off the board Turn 1?'

I like a lot of your individual builds, but as a cohesive army I think you're really lacking in firepower and survivability for Turn 1, and from there it feels like you'd go downhill as the game advances.

I'd probably opt to upgrade the haywire blaster Scourges to straight Blasters at the very least, I'd advocate the increased damage output to be well worth the price of dealing with the extra cost and opponent getting invulnerable saves. I'd suggest that's a better darklight investment than the handful of blast pistols also.

I'm relieved you are advocating blasters over hwb on scourges, as I like them too and a lot of people seem to be high on hwb scourges. Blast pistols could of course be cut.

At this point, I don't want to go full mech. The flexibility of the wwp kabs is more appealing for now.

 AesSedai wrote:
Kabal of the Black Heart Battalion +5 CP

1x Archon @ 70
WL (Labyrinthine Cunning)
W/ Splinter pistol, Huskblade
*relic: Writ of Living Muse*

1x Archon @ 80
W/ Blast Pistol, Huskblade

You have forgotten to pay for the two Huskblades

 Garion wrote:

 AesSedai wrote:
Kabal of the Black Heart Battalion +5 CP

1x Archon @ 70
WL (Labyrinthine Cunning)
W/ Splinter pistol, Huskblade
*relic: Writ of Living Muse*

1x Archon @ 80
W/ Blast Pistol, Huskblade

You have forgotten to pay for the two Huskblades

Revising this list. What tweaks would be good to afford the 2 huskblades?