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I'm working on two armies switching between them as I slowly paint it all up and the Eldar half is yme loc and I'm trying to lean away from using wraiths maybe a wraithlord. But I'm looking for a tank that's comparable to the wraithknight and it's between the Cobra or Lynx, the Cobra, which one of these could fill that role better?

Have you looked at the Scorpion?

Well it does seem pretty good on paper that twin pulsar is potentially just awful but it 710 points at base

 Rahshen wrote:
Well it does seem pretty good on paper that twin pulsar is potentially just awful but it 710 points at base

Which is clearly a huge difference from the 650 of the Cobra?

I'd go for the Scorpion, the Lynx is terrible, far too expensive with only Fire Prism levels of damage output (and the FP isn't a good unit either).

3 Fire Prisms are roughly equivalent or better firepower for around the same points, sadly most of the FW tanks got smacked far too hard with the points increase, maybe a Lynx with a couple of supporting Hornets

As someone who owns and has used a scorpion, definitely the scorpion. It is a fantastic tank that consistently performs and has a few advantages not immediately obvious:

1) it is eligible to cloudstrike, and can per faqs on vehicles arriving from reserves claim at least the 5+ invuln on the turn it does so.
2) it's actually more mobile than the equivalent points of linked fire prisms, and with guide applied WILL outperform them because of the static damage value. This is because it has a built-in compensation for moving and firing heavy weapons, while the prisms do not.
3) It has exceptional range, IS a valid target for the forewarned stratagem. Imagine a 20-strong blob of reapers. Now imagine that with the capacity to forewarn with a farseer.
4) as a single model with a built-in invulnerable, fortune makes it quite durable.
5) the most important quality: static damage. Unlike most other AT weapons, it does not suffer the swings of D6 damage, and will put considerable hurt on whatever you aim it at, and has sufficient shot volume that it'll work on nearly anything in a pinch.
6) volume of fire + guide give it a scary enough over watch no one really wants to charge it unless it's a leviathan dread or over watch immune character, both of which shouldn't be anywhere near it unless you've messed up.
7) the head-on and side profiles of the tank are actually quite low to the ground, a little taller by a fraction than a standard falcon or fire prism, which make it surprisingly easy to hide if playing with first floors blocking LoS or decent sized LoS blockers

Do they make tanks as useless as the wraithknight?

hobojebus wrote:
Do they make tanks as useless as the wraithknight?

there's always been Falcons...

 WindstormSCR wrote:
As someone who owns and has used a scorpion, definitely the scorpion. It is a fantastic tank that consistently performs and has a few advantages not immediately obvious:

1) it is eligible to cloudstrike, and can per faqs on vehicles arriving from reserves claim at least the 5+ invuln on the turn it does so.
2) it's actually more mobile than the equivalent points of linked fire prisms, and with guide applied WILL outperform them because of the static damage value. This is because it has a built-in compensation for moving and firing heavy weapons, while the prisms do not.
3) It has exceptional range, IS a valid target for the forewarned stratagem. Imagine a 20-strong blob of reapers. Now imagine that with the capacity to forewarn with a farseer.
4) as a single model with a built-in invulnerable, fortune makes it quite durable.
5) the most important quality: static damage. Unlike most other AT weapons, it does not suffer the swings of D6 damage, and will put considerable hurt on whatever you aim it at, and has sufficient shot volume that it'll work on nearly anything in a pinch.
6) volume of fire + guide give it a scary enough over watch no one really wants to charge it unless it's a leviathan dread or over watch immune character, both of which shouldn't be anywhere near it unless you've messed up.
7) the head-on and side profiles of the tank are actually quite low to the ground, a little taller by a fraction than a standard falcon or fire prism, which make it surprisingly easy to hide if playing with first floors blocking LoS or decent sized LoS blockers

I think this has sold me on the scorpion. I was mostly looking for a good centerpiece model that wasn't a wraith something and could actually be effective

 Rahshen wrote:


I think this has sold me on the scorpion. I was mostly looking for a good centerpiece model that wasn't a wraith something and could actually be effective

So a couple of things that may help when you build:

Dry fit everything half a dozen times, and if parts need bending, use HOT WATER not a heat gun. This is because the main body is one large cast, and the barrels are decently thick, so you want the heat to penetrate the whole structure of the resin to avoid internal stresses without over-heating the exterior

Prime and paint the barrels separately, as they make painting the very front of the turret tricky otherwise

The base that comes with it is inadequate, I personally cut a peice of plexi into a 5" disc using an old blast template, then used that as the base ( paint the underside of the scorpion before mounting!) it's balanced enough that it can be mounted with two-part just by supporting the front forks in final position

A peice of scrap styrofoam is a great friend for this build as you can use it to stand the tank upright when gluing the engine mounts and when setting the barrels, also to hold things level when setting the base.

2-part epoxy everything, it'll stand the minor flexing better


Enjoy the giant flat front forks for painting! A perfect canvas for some real centerpeice stencil work if you have an airbrush.

A few WIP images from my own build in among the others in this gallery: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/UcHHW

Reminds me I should really do an updated one sometime soon.

The Scorpion is horrendously effective against any target - it can basically remove any unit you want each turn. Be prepared for cheese and Forgeworld haters to deny you games. Which is actually the reason I chose to purchase a Cobra - it's more balanced, being insanely effective against armor but not infantry. Also being less points allows you to squeeze the Cobra into smaller games. Just don't get into a firefight with those Doomsday Cannons and their quantum shielding!