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Hi there I was playing with a friend recently and when it came to save throws against his unit of Guardian defenders he was saving at a 3+ due to the heavy weapons platform he took, he was rolling all save dice simultaneously essentially giving the guardians a 3+ save until the platform died, which it did however as he was rolling all dice at the same time this ment that all the extra 3s and 4s which would normaly kill a guardians saved them as the platform took all those hits.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Spyder335 wrote:
Hi there I was playing with a friend recently and when it came to save throws against his unit of Guardian defenders he was saving at a 3+ due to the heavy weapons platform he took, he was rolling all save dice simultaneously essentially giving the guardians a 3+ save until the platform died, which it did however as he was rolling all dice at the same time this ment that all the extra 3s and 4s which would normaly kill a guardians saved them as the platform took all those hits.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Read the fast rolling rules. What he did was breaking the rules.

You have to do saves one at a time. He can allocate the wound to the platform just fine, but has to make the save for the platform individually until it becomes wounded, then he's forced to allocate to them.

If he had 10 saves to make, he can't just roll 10 dice, he has to roll them individually, until the platform dies (and then has to be allocated to a guardian) or passed them all.

Example: You take 10 wounds.
He allocates to platform, rolls a 6.
Allocates to platform, rolls a 1.
Platform is now wounded so must be allocated, rolls a 6.
Platform is now wounded so must be allocated, rolls a 1.
Platform is dead so the wound must be allocated to a guardian with a 4+ save. Rolls a 1. Dead guardian, etc.

He can do fast rolling for the number of wounds left on the current model making the save though. Basically if the weapons platform has 2 wounds left. he can allocate 2 wounds to the platform and roll 2 dice for saves, if he saves them both he can roll two more dice for saves. If he fails one and saves one you can only roll them individually after that.

 DeathReaper wrote:
He can do fast rolling for the number of wounds left on the current model making the save though. Basically if the weapons platform has 2 wounds left. he can allocate 2 wounds to the platform and roll 2 dice for saves, if he saves them both he can roll two more dice for saves. If he fails one and saves one you can only roll them individually after that.

Assuming they are Damage 1 Wounds. If the wounds can do more than 1 damage, he can't roll more saves than the minimum necessary to kill the model.

 alextroy wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
He can do fast rolling for the number of wounds left on the current model making the save though. Basically if the weapons platform has 2 wounds left. he can allocate 2 wounds to the platform and roll 2 dice for saves, if he saves them both he can roll two more dice for saves. If he fails one and saves one you can only roll them individually after that.

Assuming they are Damage 1 Wounds. If the wounds can do more than 1 damage, he can't roll more saves than the minimum necessary to kill the model.

Yes, assuming they are damage 1 wounds. (The majority of weapons our there are).

 DeathReaper wrote:
He can do fast rolling for the number of wounds left on the current model making the save though. Basically if the weapons platform has 2 wounds left. he can allocate 2 wounds to the platform and roll 2 dice for saves, if he saves them both he can roll two more dice for saves. If he fails one and saves one you can only roll them individually after that.

Think you can only do fast rolling for to hit and wound. When it comes to save step they have to be done individually I the case of multiple model types in the unit.

Nm I see you got that covered from your last post