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 AndrewGPaul wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
... some of the time, old things you loved and adored will get brought back for actually well thought out, interesting developments,

...

but it also means you're going to get a lot of nostalgia-driven crap that's just terrible, and you're just going to have to ignore.

And sometimes, not everyone agrees which category a given thing falls into. See: Adeptus Titanicus, Warhammer Quest Silver Tower, Kill Team, for some examples.

Weird how people can have these things where they like stuff that might not agree with you, and it DOESNT make either of you objectively right, wrong, or part of a vast conspiracy intent on destroying the thing you love.

Also, it's not like this is new. At all. Remember when Batman got rebooted to be a completely different guy in a sci-fi setting with a weird rastafarian-looking joker?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

Robin Wiliams had one, and we all know how left hollywood is.

Karol wrote:

Does it matter if it was done just to cynically include women if you get something good out of it, like a kit that doesn't make it look like your guardsmen report to Mel Brooks in a comically oversized vader helmet? We get stuff like Harlequins, Genestealer cult, Necromunda, Rogue frickin traders in plastic!

Well I could imagine that if someone was anti women, and pro women camp liked to see more women models, they could be very happy about anything that makes the other side unhappy. so the longer there would be no new or as few as possible female models, the better for them.
Work both ways too, am sure if someone decided to make a Grey Knight that is female, because "magic", even if it would make no sense at all, the pro women camp would love it. Same way as some people claim the last jedi isn't a totally horrible movie.

here's an example right here: I watched the Last Jedi last night because I saw it was on netflix and I hadn't seen it yet.

And I

*GASP*

DIDN'T think it was the worst thing ever.

Were there characters that made me hit my head against a wall? Yes. But I got to cheer when they died, so all is forgiven, movie. I didn't get to see the planet of the gungans blown up at the end of the prequels, so that's a comparative point in the favor of TLJ. I pretty much liked everything involving the Rey/Luke/Ben Swolo plot.

And you know what's weird about it?

it doesn't make me part of a conspiracy to do it. Money did not slowly eject out of the CD slot of my computer when I smiled at the movie with a little note from kathleen kennedy that I was in on it now.

How We Took Down the Woman Guardsmen Conspiracy One Hashtag At a Time


Femaloid GuardsMEN conspiracy DESTROYED #walkaway #forthemanperor #stopthemadness

Things change over time.

I own probably around 700 Spider-man comics, ranging from 1962 to last week’ Issue.

The golden age stuff for all heroes , while mind blowing in the 60’s and still fun to read, is about as lame as can be. It all boils down to “what kooky thing will the Villain of the Week try to do, only to be thwarted by the heroes. Same with Thundercats/He-Man/She-Ra.

The stuff everyone is super nostalgic for from other media, is the exact thing that people tear GW to shreds over whenever the fluff changes.



The design of She-Ra and the new Thundercats is based on the current popular art styles you see in Current popular cartoons. Just like the uncanny valley look that Sha-ra, He-Man and the Thundercats had in the 80’s, where it looks like an alien tried to draw humans based on a Wikipedia article description. You can not like the new art style but that doesn’t mean the evil SJW are coming to ruin your childhood.

I’m a little dated on my non-Spidey comics due to school, but Odinson was told a secret that was so jarring he was no longer Worthy to be Thor. Jane Foster was decided to be worthy by Mjolnir and now we have Lady Thor. Odinson is still doing stuff, but he’s in a different story arc.

Tony Stark fought a Second Civil War to avoid Trying people for crimes they might commit in the future. He was “killed” and his apprentice was taking over until Tony is “unkilled” IIRC, Dr Doom took up the mantle of IronMan.

Peter Parker was a Millionaire for all of 2 years with a company that rivaled Stark Industries. Hydra, Led by Captain America during the Secret Empire storyline destroyed it so now Pete’s Back to photography. There’s a young kid also running around as Spider-Man who is African-American and in high school. This is because the current Spidey is almost 30 and has been out of school for at least 400 issues if we are including college. The younger Spidey allows marvel to tell the coming of age superhero stories that they’ve been pushing onto Peter Parker since the 60’s that no longer apply to the character because he is almost as old as most characters were in Golden Age.

Onto female guardsmen: it really would not be difficult to have them throw a sprue of feminine heads in the cadian box, and I’d probably buy a box to give my cultists more options. I was already looking at picking up the Necromunda gangs to add some variety from the Cadian mixed with catachans mixed with Genestealer Cult bits that I currently have for my cultists. More options isn’t bad.

I don't think there was any conspiracy in remaking Starwars. Disney invested money in to it, and does the same GW does with their IP. Cut off the old stuff and replace it with the new stuff. Even the cut offs were done in a simiular way. I mean you can't tell me that after reading all the EU books, and watching the original trilogy, the characterisation of the last jedi "luke" was right. that doesn't mean that there couldn't be people who liked the way he was done though. For example the people that dislike the character, or didn't care about the EU.

Same way with WFB, GW makes fun and offends people who invested years in waiting for them to fix WFB and give it the support it deservs. Only to be made fun of, and told to play the new game that is nothing like the game they liked. We had, he no longer plays, a guy who waited years for bretonians to be updated, slowly buying more and more stuff. I don't know how many years he waited, but it was not fun, am sure of it.

And I

*GASP*

DIDN'T think it was the worst thing ever.

Some people think that eating glass while drunk isn't th worse thing ever. Hardly an argument. On the flip side of things, the last jedi floped hard, both as a stand alone movie, what the makers expected it to make and what a star wars movie makes moneywise in general. We can never agree what is artistilcy considered good or bad, but making less money they people wanted it to make is a sign that something went wrong. Unless of course one blames that one that basment dweling old starwars mafia and russian agents manipulating rotten tomato scores.

I’m a little dated on my non-Spidey comics due to school, but Odinson was told a secret that was so jarring he was no longer Worthy to be Thor. Jane Foster was decided to be worthy by Mjolnir and now we have Lady Thor. Odinson is still doing stuff, but he’s in a different story arc.

You think that "gor was right" was a good explanation to how Thor suddenly became unworthy, and that is after the stuff he did in the Gor mini series, which by the way was awesome. They even did stupid stuff like claiming Thor is not Thors name, but his job description, changed how the hammer works etc They even changed the character of Jane Foster. I mean her whole arc made no sense at all. Plus they made war thor job to her, which makes 0 sense powerwise. Hell Odin jobed to her, and not a power depleated one, but a full one power mode one.

I thought it was cool, just like I thought secret empire was cool, just like I thought fear itself was cool, just like I thought both civil wars were cool, just like I thought both secret wars were cool, just like I thought the 2004 secret war against Latveria was cool, just like I thought Spider-Island and Superior Spider-Man were cool. I like that they’re not trying to tell the exact same stories they been telling for 60 years.

I’m not a huge fan of Deadpool, because I find his character for the most part to be annoying. So when they released him up comics of Spiderman and Deadpool I tend to not buy them.

Star Wars Movie Profits:

Ep 4: A new Hope: $786,598,007
Ep 5: Empire: $534,171,960
Ep 6: Return: $572,705,079
Ep 1: Phantom: $1,027,044,677
Ep 2: Clone: $656,695,615
Ep 3: Revenge: $848,998,877
Ep 7: Awakens: $2,058,662,225
Ep 8: Jedi: $1,318,092,040

I was curious about your statement, because I hdan't heard that it was a flop, and as it turns out that's one of those things. What do you call them? Exaggerations?

This is all-time money, by the way. Literally ALL the money they've made from the sale of the original trilogy over all the years it's been around getting put on DVDs and VHS and Blu-Rays. TLJ is currently the eleventh highest grossing movie of all time, second highest grossing star wars movie, and a solid 30% above the average that a star wars movie makes...just counting the main series films.

You can say you don't like something all you want, but if you say its a financial failure...you're going to have to meet a slightly higher burden of proof than that. Profits are down compared to the opening film in the trilogy...pretty much the exact same percentage that every other second film in the other two trilogies. Sequels make money more reliably than originals, but they make less money overall than the original.

We've gone from how much female guardsmen would make to what would star wars make.
Dont we have enough SW threads down in the geek media forum?..... ho hum.

 Ratius wrote:
We've gone from how much female guardsmen would make to what would star wars make.
Dont we have enough SW threads down in the geek media forum?..... ho hum.

Sorry, I realize that was off topic. I just had been pretty much ignoring the whole star wars controversy thing because I hadn't bothered to see the film, and I'd seen the claim that it had flopped a bunch of times and I assumed they were actually right.

I just thought it was hilarious just HOW much the claim was a lie...

I find it absolutely hilarious that Star Wars is used as an example of 'SJWs ruining things.' Not only are the new films highly successfull, Star Wars was already 'ruined.' As much I'd like to pretend otherwise, the prequel trilogy exists. Whilst I may have some gripes about the new Disney SW films, and agree that they're not as good as the original trilogy, they're obviously orders of magnitude better than the steaming pile of bantha poo was the prequel trilogy. So it is not about complaining about the quality of the product, it is about complaining that they dared to give a girl a lightsabre. Personally I can't wait to see more adventures of Rey and the gang, it is nice to see that there is finally some quality Star wars again.

the_scotsman wrote:
Star Wars Movie Profits:

Ep 4: A new Hope: $786,598,007
Ep 5: Empire: $534,171,960
Ep 6: Return: $572,705,079
Ep 1: Phantom: $1,027,044,677
Ep 2: Clone: $656,695,615
Ep 3: Revenge: $848,998,877
Ep 7: Awakens: $2,058,662,225
Ep 8: Jedi: $1,318,092,040

I was curious about your statement, because I hdan't heard that it was a flop, and as it turns out that's one of those things. What do you call them? Exaggerations?

This is all-time money, by the way. Literally ALL the money they've made from the sale of the original trilogy over all the years it's been around getting put on DVDs and VHS and Blu-Rays. TLJ is currently the eleventh highest grossing movie of all time, second highest grossing star wars movie, and a solid 30% above the average that a star wars movie makes...just counting the main series films.

You can say you don't like something all you want, but if you say its a financial failure...you're going to have to meet a slightly higher burden of proof than that. Profits are down compared to the opening film in the trilogy...pretty much the exact same percentage that every other second film in the other two trilogies. Sequels make money more reliably than originals, but they make less money overall than the original.

It was a flop in the sense that it earned less then people who made the movie expected it to make, plus it killed Solo, who as bizzar as it may sound was an actually ok movie, but got punished by the fans that didn't like the last jedi.

I thought it was cool, just like I thought secret empire was cool, just like I thought fear itself was cool, just like I thought both civil wars were cool, just like I thought both secret wars were cool, just like I thought the 2004 secret war against Latveria was cool, just like I thought Spider-Island and Superior Spider-Man were cool. I like that they’re not trying to tell the exact same stories they been telling for 60 years.

There is nothing strange in liking something. The first civil war was very interesting for me too. Spiderman as long there was Slott on him always felt strange, and not good strange the way Clarmont stuff felt.
I don't get the telling the same story argument though, those stories are copies of each other too, the only thing there is different about them and what was in the past, is that in the past story arcs were about heros, character changes, it didn't seem to be important if a character had this or that race, or that like to sleep with any kind of people, or event not people considering some Avengers and Xmen runs. The new stuff is stupid, because it is not about character development, but about someone trying to push stuff on people. I mean was Modok Trump really needed, or the whole feminist stuff? Do normal people that read comics really have to be bombarded with man bad, woman good, on every second page or so? And it drops the number of people buying the comics too, what is crazy considering we live right now in time where people like me are practicly rised on marvel movies. But in the movies tony is tony, cpt america is a hero and a patriot that loves his country and not an double agend of hydra etc


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 Crimson wrote:
I find it absolutely hilarious that Star Wars is used as an example of 'SJWs ruining things.' Not only are the new films highly successfull, Star Wars was already 'ruined.' As much I'd like to pretend otherwise, the prequel trilogy exists. Whilst I may have some gripes about the new Disney SW films, and agree that they're not as good as the original trilogy, they're obviously orders of magnitude better than the steaming pile of bantha poo was the prequel trilogy. So it is not about complaining about the quality of the product, it is about complaining that they dared to give a girl a lightsabre. Personally I can't wait to see more adventures of Rey and the gang, it is nice to see that there is finally some quality Star wars again.

Sorry, but I have to say this argument is bs. There were a ton of female jedi and sith that were loved by fans in the EU. Your telling me that people loved those for decades, but then when Ray came, all those people suddenly turned in to women haters?

The first new star wars movie was good. It walked the fine line of being a clone of new hope, but it was good, there was a ton of space to develop characters etc. And what did people get in the new movie? Akbar killed practicly off screen, and replaced by admiaral Purple, bombers in space, R parents being no ones, the casino sub arc, the destruction of Lukes character, forced out of no where romans that made no sense and had 0 development etc. I don't know whose foult the last jedi is, but the person droped the ball hard

It's very much like some of the more right wing subs on reddit.

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Making the game more inclusive is a positive, not a negative. And if adding pony-tails and bewbs means fewer players? Well good riddance, they're not people I want to associate with anyway.

What ever happened to being an adult and just not buying something you don't like?


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Looks like a teenage girl to me. Source: I teach high school.


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 Crimson wrote:
I find it absolutely hilarious that Star Wars is used as an example of 'SJWs ruining things.' Not only are the new films highly successfull, Star Wars was already 'ruined.' As much I'd like to pretend otherwise, the prequel trilogy exists. Whilst I may have some gripes about the new Disney SW films, and agree that they're not as good as the original trilogy, they're obviously orders of magnitude better than the steaming pile of bantha poo was the prequel trilogy. So it is not about complaining about the quality of the product, it is about complaining that they dared to give a girl a lightsabre. Personally I can't wait to see more adventures of Rey and the gang, it is nice to see that there is finally some quality Star wars again.

The pure and total gakness of TLJ has nothing to do with female characters or black characters - its because its poorly wirtten, directed and with truely awful pacing. Pretending that people don;t like a film cos "girls" or "asians" is nonsense for the vast majority of those who did not enjoy this POS.

The sheer amount of action films with a female lead and strong (or actual) characters is high and laughs at thhe gak that is TLJ.

I would like to see some adventures of Rey - she was one of the very things that was intersting and Rian Johnson did not screw up too much - just not more tedious chases or Casino worlds and I certianly would not go to the cinema to watch any more SW films tillI know they can get the basics right - plot, Characters and pace - all of the latter were not present in the TLJ.

the_scotsman wrote:
Star Wars Movie Profits:

Ep 4: A new Hope: $786,598,007
Ep 5: Empire: $534,171,960
Ep 6: Return: $572,705,079
Ep 1: Phantom: $1,027,044,677
Ep 2: Clone: $656,695,615
Ep 3: Revenge: $848,998,877
Ep 7: Awakens: $2,058,662,225
Ep 8: Jedi: $1,318,092,040

I was curious about your statement, because I hdan't heard that it was a flop, and as it turns out that's one of those things. What do you call them? Exaggerations?

This is all-time money, by the way. Literally ALL the money they've made from the sale of the original trilogy over all the years it's been around getting put on DVDs and VHS and Blu-Rays. TLJ is currently the eleventh highest grossing movie of all time, second highest grossing star wars movie, and a solid 30% above the average that a star wars movie makes...just counting the main series films.

You can say you don't like something all you want, but if you say its a financial failure...you're going to have to meet a slightly higher burden of proof than that. Profits are down compared to the opening film in the trilogy...pretty much the exact same percentage that every other second film in the other two trilogies. Sequels make money more reliably than originals, but they make less money overall than the original.

it was also a critical success, with a 91% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. But we gotta #walkaway lmao

Unfortunately a lot of the opinions in this thread are being presented as fact, which is part of the gaslighting normal people have to endure in 2018

 Mr Morden wrote:

The pure and total gakness of TLJ has nothing to do with female characters or black characters - its because its poorly wirtten, directed and with truely awful pacing. Pretending that people don;t like a film cos "girls" or "asians" is nonsense for the vast majority of those who did not enjoy this POS.

The sheer amount of action films with a female lead and strong (or actual) characters is high and laughs at thhe gak that is TLJ.

I would like to see some adventures of Rey - she was one of the very things that was intersting and Rian Johnson did not screw up too much - just not more tedious chases or Casino worlds and I certianly would not go to the cinema to watch any more SW films tillI know they can get the basics right - plot, Characters and pace - all of the latter were not present in the TLJ.

Perfectly valid criticism of the movie, yet it was still miles better than any of the prequel trilogy films. My point was not that the film is flawless, merely that is absurd that people are suddenly now shocked that there is a bad Star Wars film. It is like people hating on the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls while conveniently forgetting how utterly gak the Temple of Doom was.

I just had a sudden thought.

I must be ruining 40K! /s

I have a Sisters of Battle army.

My eldar army is converted out of wytches.

My guard army is mostly female and has reversed gender roles (for funsies).

Oh dear lord!!!! Run for the HILLS!!!

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I find it absolutely hilarious that Star Wars is used as an example of 'SJWs ruining things.' Not only are the new films highly successfull, Star Wars was already 'ruined.' As much I'd like to pretend otherwise, the prequel trilogy exists. Whilst I may have some gripes about the new Disney SW films, and agree that they're not as good as the original trilogy, they're obviously orders of magnitude better than the steaming pile of bantha poo was the prequel trilogy. So it is not about complaining about the quality of the product, it is about complaining that they dared to give a girl a lightsabre. Personally I can't wait to see more adventures of Rey and the gang, it is nice to see that there is finally some quality Star wars again.

The pure and total gakness of TLJ has nothing to do with female characters or black characters - its because its poorly wirtten, directed and with truely awful pacing. Pretending that people don;t like a film cos "girls" or "asians" is nonsense for the vast majority of those who did not enjoy this POS.

The sheer amount of action films with a female lead and strong (or actual) characters is high and laughs at thhe gak that is TLJ.

I would like to see some adventures of Rey - she was one of the very things that was intersting and Rian Johnson did not screw up too much - just not more tedious chases or Casino worlds and I certianly would not go to the cinema to watch any more SW films tillI know they can get the basics right - plot, Characters and pace - all of the latter were not present in the TLJ.

Man, I for example was hyped out about cpt Phasma in RotJ. She was scary in the first movie. If 1/10th of the time they spend on casion world time was dedicted to her, I may even be saying stuff like, movie is bad, but dat Phasma. She got a Luke treatment in the movie, but that can be said about a ton of characters. Poe went from gung ho fighter ace to someone suffers from oxygen deficiency, at best.

Your cousin has large breasts?

define huge on a man. He does weight over 80kg, and we are almost the same age.

the_scotsman wrote:

 Mmmpi wrote:

Spoiler:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

hobojebus wrote:

 mugginns wrote:
Dang, the lunatic fringe is definitely alive and well on DakkaDakka. Surprised the mods tolerate this kind of stuff.

Nah we want the far left out there the more they push their insanity the better, we need the normal people to understand what a threat they are to society.

#walkaway shows how effective this strategy is.

The concern is companies are slow on the uptake, the decline of marvel comics and star wars should be clear indicators of why not to listen to sjw's, doing so only ever leads to customers disapearing.

Pandering to the far left has never worked for any company so far.

The far left? I don't remember Raúl Castro having a 40k army or a Dakka account.

Notice how progressive is always a communist plot? /s

You know what the human brain really likes? Patterns. And by extension, stories. We like when things do things BECAUSE of some other thing, even when it would make much, MUCH more sense for them to be pretty much unrelated.

We especially like to think that when we do things, we cause other things, and not the massive ridiculous plurality of people in the general public who tend to not be nearly as involved in activist/superfan circles.

Female guard sculpts would probably do well or do badly for a reason completely unrelated to the fact that they include females. Maybe they look really cool. Maybe the huge secondhand market depresses their sales. But boy oh boy could you bet your bottom dollar that there would be SOMEONE attributing that success or failure to the 0.1 grams of gray plastic molded into a different shape that made a guardsman female to that success or failure.

Oh I agree with you on all counts. In addition, the human mind is set up to create categories. But whenever I see stuff, like what the post I responded to was replying to, it makes me sad because apparently some people can only make two categories: Me/Other.

I think the main problem with the IG female head sculpts done by GW would be that they would look bad. I don't know how is the responsible for doing the faces on GW models, because they look god damn aweful. And while on something like a plague marine or a blind sea elf, it doesn't hurt much, it may even add to the eerie feeling of the whole army. There is stuff like lelith hesperx, which in fluff is a breath taking beauty gladiatrix, but has the face of either a man who didn't do enough steroids or a female that did too much.


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 Mmmpi wrote:


Oh I agree with you on all counts. In addition, the human mind is set up to create categories. But whenever I see stuff, like what the post I responded to was replying to, it makes me sad because apparently some people can only make two categories: Me/Other.

that is only partly true, the me/other thing is for man. Women brains work on a mother+child dyad vs other.

Some are really bad, but they've been getting better. The Brides of Khaine, at least from what I remember were perfectly fine. Clan echer (sp) seemed like they managed to get average, rather then weirdly mannish (for the whole range), or "ganger supermodel".

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The categorization applies to everyone. I however misspoke. Instead of me/other, I should have said "my group/other group", which is a bit different from the social dominance model you're referring to.

What’s killing Comics isn’t “pandering to the left” since comics have always brought up social issues. The X-men are an obvious analogy to the Civil Rights Movement. What’s killing comics Is that each issue has 20 pages of content, released weekly or bi weekly, each issue costs 4.25, and you need to buy into multiple series to follow one character. Compared to Manga which has 90+ pages of content, released monthly for 9.99 and if you like Goku or Luffy, you only need to buy Dragonball or One Piece.

Unless you love the character, comics are ungodly expensive for the level of content per issue

Also, leliths face is not as much a problem with the model as it is the gw studio paintjob.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xJeGksupyl0/UtIKyw94UWI/AAAAAAAAAoM/R5PPNNuwGFE/s1600/Lelith1.jpg

I just got a metal one off eBay and I was worried about it but the face is pretty much a blank slate. Also I love me the new Eschers, I'm partway through the second box of them and I love their sculpts.

But once again, how do you take the guardsman kit and NOT improve on the sculpts? Sgt dickard isn't a high bar: https://i.redd.it/uobhrkmbk3jz.jpg

It would be completely unrealistic to have female guardsmen in 40k.This kind of pandering has to stop. It would take me out of the immersive experience of battling against giant green Orks, space elves, superhumans and fish people in robot suits. Don't do it GW!!!!

CassianSol wrote:

It would be completely unrealistic to have female guardsmen in 40k.This kind of pandering has to stop. It would take me out of the immersive experience of battling against giant green Orks, space elves, superhumans and fish people in robot suits. Don't do it GW!!!!

I am assuming this is missing the sarcasm emote?

 Mr Morden wrote:

CassianSol wrote:

It would be completely unrealistic to have female guardsmen in 40k.This kind of pandering has to stop. It would take me out of the immersive experience of battling against giant green Orks, space elves, superhumans and fish people in robot suits. Don't do it GW!!!!

I am assuming this is missing the sarcasm emote?

Oh yes.

YeOldSaltPotato wrote:
Just please make them compatible with the rest of the parts in the kit.

No reason why the arms and equipment wouldn't be made to fit both feminine and masculine torsos.

 Iur_tae_mont wrote:
What’s killing Comics isn’t “pandering to the left” since comics have always brought up social issues. The X-men are an obvious analogy to the Civil Rights Movement. What’s killing comics Is that each issue has 20 pages of content, released weekly or bi weekly, each issue costs 4.25, and you need to buy into multiple series to follow one character. Compared to Manga which has 90+ pages of content, released monthly for 9.99 and if you like Goku or Luffy, you only need to buy Dragonball or One Piece.

Unless you love the character, comics are ungodly expensive for the level of content per issue

And the overall death of print media

I actually like the new She-Rah... and I agree. She does not look like a boy, she does look like a teenager, without great... feminine virtues, that she didn't had in his previous incarnation when she was an adult.

If you look for other artworks you can see it, that she doesn't has a flat chest.

The rest of the "is so androginous!" problem, as Formosa said, it comes down to the simplified and plain coloured art style. Of course, maybe is that I find in general all the Masters of the Universe old designs horrible. But I'm not one of those that lives with the "OMG THEY CHANGED THIS THING I LOVE!" mentality. Not even with Warcraft, after 15 years following the universe. It had my angry rants about how they destroyed the lore/fluff, but at this point, meh. I had never a problem when they changed designs of characters, etc..., and they changed them ALL the time.

But I don't know what to expect. It is 2018. Everything you don't like is a conspirancy agaisnt the core values for wich you live your life.

OMG did you see what those weak horrible effeminate weeb liberals are doing to Robin in this new awful TV show?

How can you take a character like this https://i.pinimg.com/736x/00/55/fe/0055fe9ba2c3f292b78743dadf6ba1db--night-wing-batman-beyond.jpg

and end up with something like this
https://pm1.narvii.com/6776/e2faf2fc854fd75ff4ec7c3ea5a6e4d37347bb35v2_hq.jpg

It's PC culture gone mad I tell you! he looks like a little girl?!?! what is this anime bullcrap!

Robins robinpanties are a CORE and IMPORTANT part of his character and nobody can tell me otherwise!

oh wait, never mind, the anti-SJW rage brigade doesn't mind the fact that robin generally wears fifteen times more pants now than he used to.

Weird.

I wonder why that is.