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2018/08/20 18:29:43
Subject: Re:Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
I wonder how much of this is foreboding things to come.
While the orks have always had fun vehicles, I could totally see them moving away from hordes of foot sloggers to sell more expensive (both in money and points) units.
Kind of like the Ogres to Beastclaw Raiders transition. Sure, Ogres still have access to all the old units, but their focus now is on their big durable mounted models that can get a fair bit of movement across the table, give and take a beating, and are also considerably more money than their on foot counterparts (like Battleline Beastriders)
At least that's my take on things. Or maybe I'm just looking to deeply at things. I'd be cool with a mechanized Mad Max style Ork crew though.
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
While the orks have always had fun vehicles, I could totally see them moving away from hordes of foot sloggers to sell more expensive (both in money and points) units.
Kind of like the Ogres to Beastclaw Raiders transition. Sure, Ogres still have access to all the old units, but their focus now is on their big durable mounted models that can get a fair bit of movement across the table, give and take a beating, and are also considerably more money than their on foot counterparts (like Battleline Beastriders)
At least that's my take on things. Or maybe I'm just looking to deeply at things. I'd be cool with a mechanized Mad Max style Ork crew though.
Minor point:
"Ogres to Beastclaw Raiders" doesn't mean jack. Ogres are one of several factions that got splintered into smaller ones. Instead of being one large one, they're now 2 middling sized ones and two small ones.
"Gutbusters" is where the Butchers, Tyrants, Ironguts, "Ogors", Leadbelchers, Grots, the Scraplauncha/Ironblaster, and the Gorgers ended up.
"Firebellies" is a faction made up of literally just the Firebelly entry.
"Maneaters" is their own faction, consisting of just that unit.
Beastclaw Raiders is their own faction with a relatively small unit selection(about the same as Gutbusters) but they were the only one to get a book so far.
I know this might sound like nitpicking, but it's something that I feel gets misrepresented at times. We've had a lot of factions get this treatment in AoS, and not always was it for the worst. As much as you might see the costs and think it's a moneymaker...I don't think I've seen people buy the cavalry/mammoths on their own in some time. They just buy Start Collectings instead.
2018/08/20 19:03:53
Subject: Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
If GW did decide to go the mad max way with a konvoy of vehicles for the orks, this is what I'd want to see as plastic kits. (Mostly picked from epic BTW.)
Warboss on bike/trike, Painboy on bike, Big Mek on bike, Nob bikers, Weirdboy tower, Mekboy Speedsta, Guntrukk (think more a gun tank), Looted vehicle (think looted leman russ but with ork box), battlefortress.
GW could pull from all kinds of real world inspiration for their riding junkyard, like this:
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ceorron wrote: If GW did decide to go the mad max way with a convoy of vehicles for the orks, this is what I'd want to see as plastic kits. (Mostly picked from epic BTW.)
Warboss on bike/trike, Painboy on bike, Big Mek on bike, Nob bikers, Weirdboy tower, Mekboy Speedsta, Guntrukk (think more a gun tank), Looted vehicle (think looted leman russ but with ork box), battlefortress.
GW could pull from all kinds of real world inspiration for their ridding junkyard, like this:
Pure unadulterated speculation courtesy of Kirioth. Think many people will have missed it as its buried around the ~8min mark, he talks about some 'info' that correctly named the first two buggies we've heard about before the info was released by GW. IF this info did arrive with him before GW released the names, you've got to think it's likely accurate with the others:
1) Shokk Jump Dragsta
2) Kustom Boosta Blasta
It went on to mention the following names:
3) Boom Dakka Snazz Wagon (sounds something to load Flash gits/Lootas/Tank Bustas in?)
4) Mega Track Scrap Jet (This sounds like a cross between Grot Mega Tank, so many guns and a BW, powered by a Jet engine!)
5) Squig Buggies (just lol! Not even sure what these could be, some kind of huge suicide squig bomb?)
Thought I'd share and let the wild speculation before the next round of leaks/previews kick in.
September is going to be a long month!
2018/08/20 21:54:59
Subject: Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
I mean, yes, arguably you could have two new kits that each build 2 different vehicles (or one that builds one kit, or two smaller kits - that'd be awesome), but unless this bigger range of stuff is to support a game like Speed Freeks (as opposed to Codex: Orks), then it seems like too much focus in one area.
What I'm saying is that we need a plastic Kommando/Tankbusta kit.
i have a few warbuggie conversions are of captured creatures that the snakbites strapped to the fornt of old broken down truk chassis and have a sort of chariot (one of them is literaly a 40k conversion of the aos ork boar chariot).
maybe this rumor vehicle could be something like that, maybe a larger squig that has enough 40k ork stuff to make it distinct from aos.
this would help flesh out the snakebites since the units unique to them are FW only.
"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
geargutz interpretation of the 'umies "eggs in one basket"
2018/08/20 23:51:15
Subject: Re:Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
Well the snazzy wagon could be the third vehicle in the art. The scrap jet could be the big guy we have seen in the shadows which may be a plastic version of this.
That just leaves the squids which too awesome an idea to not be true.
2018/08/21 08:10:31
Subject: Re:Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
i have a few warbuggie conversions are of captured creatures that the snakbites strapped to the fornt of old broken down truk chassis and have a sort of chariot (one of them is literaly a 40k conversion of the aos ork boar chariot).
maybe this rumor vehicle could be something like that, maybe a larger squig that has enough 40k ork stuff to make it distinct from aos.
this would help flesh out the snakebites since the units unique to them are FW only.
Yeah i'd like to see the return of boar boyz, including warboss on boar, that would be cool, as well as pretty powerful. Add to that a mini squiggoth and snakebite are looking a lot more playable. All this would really expand the ork range.
When you mention a ride for the flash gitz why does my mind turn to this?
3) Boom Dakka Snazz Wagon (sounds something to load Flash gits/Lootas/Tank Bustas in?) 4) Mega Track Scrap Jet (This sounds like a cross between Grot Mega Tank, so many guns and a BW, powered by a Jet engine!) 5) Squig Buggies (just lol! Not even sure what these could be, some kind of huge suicide squig bomb?)
Sounds legit, in the so crazy it has to be true camp.
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if there isnt an white dwarf article thats like "fun movies to watch while painting your orks" and mad max movies are not in it, then i would be disappointed
"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
geargutz interpretation of the 'umies "eggs in one basket"
2018/08/21 12:01:16
Subject: Re:Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
crzylgs wrote: 4) Mega Track Scrap Jet (This sounds like a cross between Grot Mega Tank, so many guns and a BW, powered by a Jet engine!)
Sounds like it's just the FWBig Trakk model. That's powered by a jet engine, and is a trakk.
I'm betting these are just new names for old FW models.
That's quite possible. I certainly wouldn't complain as I've always found the FW model pretty terrible in all honesty.. Eiter way, here's hoping the rumours are real and we're getting (at least) another 3 vehicles. Guess we'll know more at NOVA.
2018/08/21 13:10:34
Subject: Re:Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
Pure unadulterated speculation courtesy of Kirioth. Think many people will have missed it as its buried around the ~8min mark, he talks about some 'info' that correctly named the first two buggies we've heard about before the info was released by GW. IF this info did arrive with him before GW released the names, you've got to think it's likely accurate with the others:
1) Shokk Jump Dragsta
2) Kustom Boosta Blasta
It went on to mention the following names:
3) Boom Dakka Snazz Wagon (sounds something to load Flash gits/Lootas/Tank Bustas in?)
4) Mega Track Scrap Jet (This sounds like a cross between Grot Mega Tank, so many guns and a BW, powered by a Jet engine!)
5) Squig Buggies (just lol! Not even sure what these could be, some kind of huge suicide squig bomb?)
Thought I'd share and let the wild speculation before the next round of leaks/previews kick in.
September is going to be a long month!
Those names are great, especially the Boom Dakka Snaz Wagon. I hope squigs are more prominent in the Ork army. They have been a great and untapped part of Ork lore since the beginning that was largely ignored.
2018/08/21 13:58:50
Subject: Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
While the orks have always had fun vehicles, I could totally see them moving away from hordes of foot sloggers to sell more expensive (both in money and points) units.
Kind of like the Ogres to Beastclaw Raiders transition. Sure, Ogres still have access to all the old units, but their focus now is on their big durable mounted models that can get a fair bit of movement across the table, give and take a beating, and are also considerably more money than their on foot counterparts (like Battleline Beastriders)
At least that's my take on things. Or maybe I'm just looking to deeply at things. I'd be cool with a mechanized Mad Max style Ork crew though.
Beastclaw Riders have one of the best value-for-money Start Collecting sets GW makes (along with Seraphon I'd say), and it contains a huge mounted hero you'll want multiples of plus your battleline. It's probably the cheapest faction (money-wise) in all of AoS.
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2018/08/21 14:39:18
Subject: Re:Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
While the orks have always had fun vehicles, I could totally see them moving away from hordes of foot sloggers to sell more expensive (both in money and points) units.
Kind of like the Ogres to Beastclaw Raiders transition. Sure, Ogres still have access to all the old units, but their focus now is on their big durable mounted models that can get a fair bit of movement across the table, give and take a beating, and are also considerably more money than their on foot counterparts (like Battleline Beastriders)
At least that's my take on things. Or maybe I'm just looking to deeply at things. I'd be cool with a mechanized Mad Max style Ork crew though.
Beastclaw Riders have one of the best value-for-money Start Collecting sets GW makes (along with Seraphon I'd say), and it contains a huge mounted hero you'll want multiples of plus your battleline. It's probably the cheapest faction (money-wise) in all of AoS.
There's also the fact that of the three archetypes of orks in 40k (huge green tide horde, crazy mek walker contraptions, mad max speed biker/buggy fighters) the latter hasn't really been a focus of anything since Gorkamorka days.
We've had a plethora of new big meks, walkers, various contraptions like the wazbom jet, we've had the Waaagh Ghazghkull supplements, snazzy new nob and meganob models, and pretty much the only things we've seen explicitly related to the "orks like to go fast" archetype has been the Warbiker and Stormboy kits. Great kits to be sure, but biker nobs, bosses and characters on bikes, trakks and buggies have all wobbled in the realm of "either ancient old model or no model at all" for 20+ years. So it's ripe ground for some expansion.
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2018/08/21 14:48:04
Subject: Re:Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
I really hope this time we will have something for the Blood Axe Klan.
Evil sunz were already covered in the Imperial Armour from 2008, after all.
If I recall, there was a buggy illustration very close to the new model we got.
Now if we could have new Kommandos...
2018/08/21 16:07:44
Subject: Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
btw if anyone noticed ...
I believe the wheel on the right isn't part of the vehicle ... the white glyph is mirrored on the other side of the double wheel on the left side.
If this is correct ... THIS IS A NEW WARBOSS ON BIKE ... REPEAT NEW WARBOSS ON BIKE!!!
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2018/08/22 02:22:49
Subject: Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
aracersss wrote: btw if anyone noticed ...
I believe the wheel on the right isn't part of the vehicle ... the white glyph is mirrored on the other side of the double wheel on the left side.
If this is correct ... THIS IS A NEW WARBOSS ON BIKE ... REPEAT NEW WARBOSS ON BIKE!!!
I don't think it is a wheel on the left - isn't it a coil of wire? Possibly connected to his grappling hook?
ehh, it looks like a wheel to me, the blur does not help (will probably look more like a wheel when we see the mini), besides you could kinda see the base under that "maybe not wheel" and that would be a strange location (even for orks) to place a spool for the grappling hook (strange in that its a spool that is rolling across the ground).
"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
geargutz interpretation of the 'umies "eggs in one basket"
2018/08/22 08:12:32
Subject: Speed Freaks boxed game - COMING THIS ORKTOBER
It's the spool from the grappling hook. Draw a flat line under the wheel on the right, it doesn't line up.
Design-wise, it's absolutely the place for it. A spool at the front would drag the vehicle towards the victim without pulling said victim on top of the wagon.
And if you look at it from a CAD design and sprueing point of view, it puts the spool in the same place as the meatgrinder on the other buggy.