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the_scotsman wrote:
I guess the question I have on that is literally just "how"? It's not just the bits that look totally unique, it's the general size and shape of the buggies as well. The Scrapjet and the F1 racer looking one have COMPLETELY differing body shapes. I could buy maybe the snazzwagon and the other turreted one being a combo but just barely.

I don't know. Not really my job to know "how" but I've seen some pretty incredible kits come out of GW of late that it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

The Trukk has a chassis, perhaps the Buggies all have the same basic chassis to which plates, pipes and other bits can be added to make the Buggy of choice. We don't have full 360 pics of the models so there may be re-used bits we can't see. The pipework might be turned around or reorientated to suit another Buggy.

I agree it's highly unlikely though, none of the Buggies have the same tyres, drivers, grots or even guns by the looks so I'm very doubtful this is the case.

Maybe there's "easy to build" buggies and a more complex and customisable version?

We have pictures from all sides or even spinning videos of almost all those models. There is not a single bit anywhere that could be re-used. Even those that look almost the same are different.
Just compare the air intake on both the yellow and the blue buggy - they are almost identical, but the bits seem to be altered for almost no reason but to make them look different. They are definitely not the same parts.

"Most customisable kit ever"

Which leaves only some structure inside which other bits are added. But in that case it would take no time for ork players to create 4 kits out of 1...Which GW would not like and likely would be smart enough to realize so they would price the kit up to match...

I'm just going to throw something out there, let me know if you think it has any bearing on this discussion;

"Mek Guns"

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
"Most customisable kit ever"

That would be like selling a box of nobz and printing "most customisable kit for one ork" on the box. If you can build all four buggies from the box, you will be able to build four buggies from it, period.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I'm just going to throw something out there, let me know if you think it has any bearing on this discussion;

"Mek Guns"

Uh.

No?

Lets look at a mek gun, shall we?





Hmmm, could these two wildly different looking kits POSSIBLY share a bit or two? maybe it's the clearly headswapped crewmen, or the fact that the entire body that makes up 85% of the model is shared, but I think if you look closely you can see that these are probably related kits.

I too held the opinion from looking at the first two buggies that there was probably a "skeleton" underneath that was shared, maybe the contents of one sprue worth, but the body shape of some of the buggies are completely different from others.

 Jidmah wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
"Most customisable kit ever"

That would be like selling a box of nobz and printing "most customisable kit for one ork" on the box. If you can build all four buggies from the box, you will be able to build four buggies from it, period.

How is the Mek Gun kit designed again?

Could also be that they are indeed distinct kits, but have been designed to be mixed with each other to be able to make distinct looking vehicles if including multiple of the same kind.

They've done the same kind of kit bashing possibilities that aren't apparent at first glance in their recent scenery lines, like how the armorum containers fit on the servohaulers' carriage, or the floors of the sector mechanicus terrain fits with the new sector imperialis stuff.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I'm just going to throw something out there, let me know if you think it has any bearing on this discussion;

"Mek Guns"

Bottom half is almost completely the same, same gretchin on all of them.

So yeah, no.


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 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
"Most customisable kit ever"

That would be like selling a box of nobz and printing "most customisable kit for one ork" on the box. If you can build all four buggies from the box, you will be able to build four buggies from it, period.

How is the Mek Gun kit designed again?

First ten steps of building the gun is the same for all variants. Same gretchin, same trailer, only the gun itself changes.

See for yourself: https://imgur.com/a/W8OvW#nYy5AgA

the_scotsman wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I'm just going to throw something out there, let me know if you think it has any bearing on this discussion;

"Mek Guns"

Uh.

No?

Spoiler:

Lets look at a mek gun, shall we?

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120103029_OrkBubbleChukka01.jpg

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120103029_OrkTraktorCannon01.jpg

Hmmm, could these two wildly different looking kits POSSIBLY share a bit or two? maybe it's the clearly headswapped crewmen, or the fact that the entire body that makes up 85% of the model is shared, but I think if you look closely you can see that these are probably related kits.

I too held the opinion from looking at the first two buggies that there was probably a "skeleton" underneath that was shared, maybe the contents of one sprue worth, but the body shape of some of the buggies are completely different from others.

As I said, I don't think it's likely but I find it incredible so many of you are 100% set on this. We'll know soon enough either way. The reason I bring up Mek Guns is because they are a recent release that go against what many of you believe is a certainty for this release and follow the Hastings rumour.

Personally I'd rather the kits be separate as if they followed the Mek Gun pattern I wouldn't be able to afford them without hefty kit bashing.

Feel free to circle a single bit that can be found on more than one buggy. I have found none, despite looking for a long time.

Since there is next to zero hidden parts on these things, there is no way that they could share a kit without being a large kit that builds into multiple vehicles.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
"Most customisable kit ever"

That would be like selling a box of nobz and printing "most customisable kit for one ork" on the box. If you can build all four buggies from the box, you will be able to build four buggies from it, period.

How is the Mek Gun kit designed again?

How is tactical marine with flamer and plasma gun built? Same body, different gun. Same way for mek guns. New buggies even the body is different.

Apples and oranges. Mek guns are tactical boxes. New buggies predator and landraider

Well, actually the mek gun is just bits stuck to the gun. So, they are more like terminator's combi bolters where you glue a flamer. plasma, melta or bolter bit to the bolter.

 Jidmah wrote:
Feel free to circle a single bit that can be found on more than one buggy. I have found none, despite looking for a long time.

Since there is next to zero hidden parts on these things, there is no way that they could share a kit without being a large kit that builds into multiple vehicles.

I suspect it will be one box with three minis in it. Like the Killa Kans or Warbikes; three minis that build similarly but all the parts are unique (and interchangeable). It would have to be a pretty big box, but we’ve seen GW box together big minis before (Knight Armigers, for example).

There's really no more to say on this unless you want to argue for the sake or arguing. The kits don't share any outside parts, and there are not enough parts left that could be shared to justify a combined kit. Stop clinging to one rumour from years ago when we have heaps of observable evidence to the contrary.

Just quickly jumping in here with a query; is there any idea of when to expect more details/an actual release? It's probably been asked before many times but I'd have thought they would have at least told us a release date by now.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's really no more to say on this unless you want to argue for the sake or arguing. The kits don't share any outside parts, and there are not enough parts left that could be shared to justify a combined kit. Stop clinging to one rumour from years ago when we have heaps of observable evidence to the contrary.

OK. Stop stating assumptions as if they're fact.

When the grot vehicle gets shown (if real), it will be the rounded body like the jet thing.
Boom, dual kit!

The others, so much looks like it is similar, then a slight bit different in a small way as to not match bits.
I agree three in a box could make it so, but they are big, that kit would be too expensive surely.

Here’s a thing on number of kits that got touched on but no one took it to the end of the string.

The Speed Freeks models don’t get model releases (yet. And obviously they will, but let’s say it is 3-6 months down the line. After all they want you to buy the big box).

Following on from that -
Rumour of number of kits, we’ll take two buggy’s off, as they are in that box so aren’t on the list of 4-7 kits, whichever number it is, I’ve lost track by this point.
So maybe this whole 4+3 kits thing is the number of Orktober (a phrase which seems to have spawned so much hatred ), so more could be coming in the last week or two of it which are in that number, with the SF buggies not being in the number, as a separate Jan-April release..?

Warboss Trike.
Jet thing.
Buggy
+grot buggy (could be in jet or buggy kit)

That’s 3-4 kits, with spare numbers for the other things people think are coming, just food for thought.
I honestly don’t know what I think it will be now.
(If I was betting I’d go for Crazy Custom Buggy making 3 variants, Jet/Grot rounded/jet chassis buggy’s, warboss trike, one warboss/hq model whether Ghaz or something, one infantry kit as specialists of whatever. That’s 5. Then I’ll be happy )

 Valkyrie wrote:
Just quickly jumping in here with a query; is there any idea of when to expect more details/an actual release? It's probably been asked before many times but I'd have thought they would have at least told us a release date by now.

Neup sunday announcement for speed freak preorder mark my words. Q is is codex same time or week later.

Release dates are officially told sunday before preorder so this sunday is first time foi official word

 Valkyrie wrote:
Just quickly jumping in here with a query; is there any idea of when to expect more details/an actual release? It's probably been asked before many times but I'd have thought they would have at least told us a release date by now.

We basically now what's up for pre-order this week, and they have told us that afterwards we will be getting speed freaks and the codex after that.

So probably speed freaks is on the 13th and the codex on the 20th, with a very, very small chance of the codex coming out on the 13th as well because GW sucks announcing stuff properly.


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 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's really no more to say on this unless you want to argue for the sake or arguing. The kits don't share any outside parts, and there are not enough parts left that could be shared to justify a combined kit. Stop clinging to one rumour from years ago when we have heaps of observable evidence to the contrary.

OK. Stop stating assumptions as if they're fact.

Stop denying obvious facts. They do not share outside parts. There are not enough inside parts that could be shared. These are facts known from the pictures.

My guess would be the 20th for the Codex, so that it can coincide with the 500th store celebration. I would love to see it come out with Speed Freeks on the 13th, but feel that the 20th is much more likely.

 Jidmah wrote:
Stop denying obvious facts. They do not share outside parts. There are not enough inside parts that could be shared. These are facts known from the pictures.

Which is still, regardless of how many times you state it; a) not a fact because we haven't seen the entirety of the buggies and b) does not prove without any doubt that the buggy kits are separate. You're making an assumption.

Assumption =/= fact.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
Stop denying obvious facts. They do not share outside parts. There are not enough inside parts that could be shared. These are facts known from the pictures.

Which is still, regardless of how many times you state it; a) not a fact because we haven't seen the entirety of the buggies and b) does not prove without any doubt that the buggy kits are separate. You're making an assumption.

Assumption =/= fact.

You are basically claiming that lava won't burn you because no one has burned you with lava yet.

It is impossible for any of the four buggies to be a single kit unless they all come in one box that builds into at least four buggies. Because they don't share any visible parts. This is a fact. Because we have seen the sprues of two of them. This is a fact. Because we have seen the scale of the buggies compared to bikes and the battlewagon, telling us how very little plastic fits inside of the buggy. This is also a fact.

We have facts making the "most customiseable kit" impossible. Therefore, there won't be a single kit building into one out of 4-5 different buggies as a matter of fact.

You can continue to close your eyes from reality, but you will make a fool out of yourself.

To be honest guys, why do you love to arguee so much about something as irrelevant? It makes reading the "News and Rumours" thread a little tiresome with your back and fort.

Anyone willing to bet, he’ll eat his hat and post a video of it, if all hose buggies aren’t 5 different kits?
I think it’s time

Well, here's the Squig buggy it seems:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/04/4th-oct-orktober-reveal-the-mysterygw-homepage-post-3/




Complete with a poll to guess what it is:


My guess it option D: All of the above.

What an annoying way to announce a new model

Looks like a beefy one.

A catapult on a truck?

But I wanted a MONSTERTRUCK! Tires as big as a Squigofant!