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 ceorron wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
As much as I love all the new vehicles, I too would have traded some of them for plastic Kommandos/Tankbustas and a few new HQ models.


Seems GW just hates money. Or loves buggy alternatives, who knows.


What if the buggy alternatives are kommandos disguised as buggies.
Extra sneaky like, boss.

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First leak I've seen of potential information of the warboss on trike.

https://www.reddit.com/r/orks/comments/9niqgd/some_leaks_on_the_new_boss_wartrike/

From a french youtube channel on warhammer, usually they are accurate, but to take with a pinch of salt :
- He will be less than 10 HP, apparently 8 HP
- Cost of 120 points
- Weapon profile : S+2, AP -2, 5 Attacks, D3 wounds

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Well, that's basically the profile of the killchoppa. Great against vehicles in general, especially with the rumored traits, but not that good against knights.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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 Hawkeye888 wrote:
First leak I've seen of potential information of the warboss on trike.

https://www.reddit.com/r/orks/comments/9niqgd/some_leaks_on_the_new_boss_wartrike/

From a french youtube channel on warhammer, usually they are accurate, but to take with a pinch of salt :
- He will be less than 10 HP, apparently 8 HP
- Cost of 120 points
- Weapon profile : S+2, AP -2, 5 Attacks, D3 wounds


Was just gonna post this, there's also the following info;

In french and not the main subject of the video but some leak of ork codex.
https://youtu.be/gP8xf6qjmLk?t=960 16:00 Weirboy upgrade by stratagem (1CP) to Akkro (psyker niv 2)
https://youtu.be/gP8xf6qjmLk?t=1551 25:50 Two of the new vehicle will be OP, Boss on bike will be around 120pts for 8W 5A of power klaw, new stratagem for the boss on bike if he fall back roll dice for dealing mortal wound
https://youtu.be/gP8xf6qjmLk?t=2685 44:45 Teleporta stratagem 2CP at deployment if unit cost under 20 power points it can be place in reserve and arrive at the end of a mouvement phase at 9'' of an enemy unit (Gorka/Morkanaught ?)
https://youtu.be/gP8xf6qjmLk?t=3250 54:10 Confirm of orktober fail => Speed Freak release 27 preco of codex 27 for release in november
https://youtu.be/gP8xf6qjmLk?t=3881 1:04:40 Boyz on 32mn cost 7pts now. Grot shield stratagem for 1CP if grot unit is between target and shooting unit grot can intercept wound like tau drone (on 2+). Evil sun trait +1mvt bonus for advance/charge (+2 for speed freak) no penalty for advance and shooting assault weapon. Bad moon trait reroll 1 for hiting in shooting phase. Goff trait 6+ to hit on cac generate additional attack (like dakka dakka). No new Ghazghkull miniature. Battle wagon 120 base point (without weapon). Nearly all unit will be "playable" except nob, nob biker, meganob (too expensive for what they offer)

Boyz 7 pts, welp let's hope the Buggies and Bikes are competitive!
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
Well, that's basically the profile of the killchoppa. Great against vehicles in general, especially with the rumored traits, but not that good against knights.


Worse than kiil choppa in general though

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120 for a battlewagon, huh? That might just be low enough, I wonder what the trukk ended up with and what a deff rolla will cost.

I also love the return of the Warphead (lvl 2 psyker).

Oh, and is that a confirmation of nob bikers being in the codex?
Me happy, I was afraid they were becoming display pieces

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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Weirboy upgrade by stratagem (1CP) to Akkro (psyker niv 2) - YES As someone who doesn't want to run more than 1 wierdboy I'm really happy we can upgrade him

Two of the new vehicle will be OP, Boss on bike will be around 120pts for 8W 5A of power klaw, new stratagem for the boss on bike if he fall back roll dice for dealing mortal wound - I'm getting all the new stuff that's getting released, but no mention of what the other "OP" vehicle is? Also, the stats for the warboss sound a bit underwhelming as is, I hope he's base strength 7

Confirm of orktober fail => Speed Freak release 27 preco of codex 27 for release in november - Sigh, oh well. No mention if the other stuff is coming all at the same time as the codex?

Boyz on 32mn cost 7pts now. - Oh boy, wonder if they have the exact same stats as before?

Evil sun trait +1mvt bonus for advance/charge (+2 for speed freak) no penalty for advance and shooting assault weapon. - What does this mean?

Battle wagon 120 base point (without weapon). -YAY!! (No mention of trukks?)

Nearly all unit will be "playable" except nob, nob biker, meganob (too expensive for what they offer) - Shame about the nob bikers, I like the idea of them being an entourage for the warboss on bike (now trike)

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 Jidmah wrote:
120 for a battlewagon, huh? That might just be low enough, I wonder what the trukk ended up with and what a deff rolla will cost.

I also love the return of the Warphead (lvl 2 psyker).

Oh, and is that a confirmation of nob bikers being in the codex?
Me happy, I was afraid they were becoming display pieces


I mean...TEEEEECHNICALLY games workshop makes a nob biker figure in plastic.

You just need a lot of biker kits to field a unit of them

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Come to think of it, there's also FW biker nobz.

@englishman - do they say WHY 2 of the new buggies are OP? I'd be surprised if they're simply good, much less OP.

Warboss on trike is somewhat underwhelming. It's ok, I guess. Think zhardsnark is better.

7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.

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 Kap'n Krump wrote:
7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.

Agreed. I'll never understand GW's attitude toward orks. Why chose to nerf our one good unit?
   
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 Kap'n Krump wrote:
Come to think of it, there's also FW biker nobz.

@englishman - do they say WHY 2 of the new buggies are OP? I'd be surprised if they're simply good, much less OP.

Warboss on trike is somewhat underwhelming. It's ok, I guess. Think zhardsnark is better.

7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.


I don't know man, being a proud Englishman I won't bear to hear or speak the French language if I can help it

This is a summary from a dude in an Ork group on facebook. Perhaps a French speaker will help us less cultured/educated types?
   
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 JimOnMars wrote:
 Kap'n Krump wrote:
7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.

Agreed. I'll never understand GW's attitude toward orks. Why chose to nerf our one good unit?


Sold enough boyz with index so time for periodic balance change to sell other models

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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
 Kap'n Krump wrote:
Come to think of it, there's also FW biker nobz.

@englishman - do they say WHY 2 of the new buggies are OP? I'd be surprised if they're simply good, much less OP.

Warboss on trike is somewhat underwhelming. It's ok, I guess. Think zhardsnark is better.

7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.


I don't know man, being a proud Englishman I won't bear to hear or speak the French language if I can help it

This is a summary from a dude in an Ork group on facebook. Perhaps a French speaker will help us less cultured/educated types?


OI! ANY O' YOU GITZ SPEAK PANZEE????

(JK - I know there's some french-speaking folks around here, anyone care to share?)

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment." Words to live by. 
   
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If someone posts it I can translate. Im half frenchie

ERJAK wrote:


The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.

 
   
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 Kap'n Krump wrote:
OI! ANY O' YOU GITZ SPEAK PANZEE????

(JK - I know there's some french-speaking folks around here, anyone care to share?)


Savage!

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 davou wrote:
If someone posts it I can translate. Im half frenchie


There's links in my post above. About half the page up!

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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
 Kap'n Krump wrote:
OI! ANY O' YOU GITZ SPEAK PANZEE????

(JK - I know there's some french-speaking folks around here, anyone care to share?)


Savage!

E -
 davou wrote:
If someone posts it I can translate. Im half frenchie


There's links in my post above. About half the page up!



NO facebook at work mate; I need the full text

ERJAK wrote:


The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.

 
   
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 davou wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:
 Kap'n Krump wrote:
OI! ANY O' YOU GITZ SPEAK PANZEE????

(JK - I know there's some french-speaking folks around here, anyone care to share?)


Savage!

E -
 davou wrote:
If someone posts it I can translate. Im half frenchie


There's links in my post above. About half the page up!



NO facebook at work mate; I need the full text


They're youtube links, not Facebook but I assume you can' do that at work either.

I'm not gonna sit and write some poor-mans version of French for you to "translate" lol. You'll have no chance.



Can't help you man, the stuff I posted is literally all I know. Waiting on Frenchman or woman to help us out!

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 JimOnMars wrote:
 Kap'n Krump wrote:
7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.

Agreed. I'll never understand GW's attitude toward orks. Why chose to nerf our one good unit?


Perhaps... and bear with me here... Boyz are now even better thanks to having access to new armywide special rules, stratagems, cheaper transports, etc?
   
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 JimOnMars wrote:
 Kap'n Krump wrote:
7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.

Agreed. I'll never understand GW's attitude toward orks. Why chose to nerf our one good unit?

They're our one good unit now, but maybe in the context of the full codex they were too good so they had to have their points increased a little, while everything else got better and/or had their points dropped? We might not have just one good unit anymore once the codex is released.

YELL REAL LOUD AN' CARRY A BIG CHOPPA! 
   
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 xttz wrote:
 JimOnMars wrote:
 Kap'n Krump wrote:
7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.

Agreed. I'll never understand GW's attitude toward orks. Why chose to nerf our one good unit?


Perhaps... and bear with me here... Boyz are now even better thanks to having access to new armywide special rules, stratagems, cheaper transports, etc?

Things that all other codexes' troops paid for when they had access to the same thing.......o wait. They didn't.

They are quite literally the only troop in my knowledge to increase in price from index to codex, if the rumour is true.
   
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 xttz wrote:
 JimOnMars wrote:
 Kap'n Krump wrote:
7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.

Agreed. I'll never understand GW's attitude toward orks. Why chose to nerf our one good unit?


Perhaps... and bear with me here... Boyz are now even better thanks to having access to new armywide special rules, stratagems, cheaper transports, etc?


Gw considers those free. Orks might be only one where core unit got price hike. At sub-average unit at that.

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Basic daemons went up when CSM dropped, didn't they?

Also, the Ork index was hot squig gak, and poorly balanced. Just because boyz were the only good thing they had then, doesn't mean they are now. We just got confirmation that we're getting a 120point winged Daemon Prince that's only missing the fly and pysker keywords after all.
   
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 JimOnMars wrote:
 Kap'n Krump wrote:
7 point boyz is a bit of a disappointment - maybe they're trying to get people to bring something besides boyz spam? If that's the case, they'd better give us other playable options.

Agreed. I'll never understand GW's attitude toward orks. Why chose to nerf our one good unit?


It's not really a nerf though.I'd call it a step to the side. They are getting Dakka dakka dakka, it's hard to justify a regular boy at 6ppm when they have mob rule, ear we go and DDD and THEN they get a clan trait. Especially when you look at the profile they have. The big issue orks had wasn't so much the infantry it was the prices of the other units. Sounds like everything else is getting the needed boosts. I still think the biggest issue against Ork viability from competition is going to be logistical. With 32mm bases and that giant oval the buggies are coming with, it is going to be desperate times figuring out where/how to deploy all your models and not have them get into eachothers way. If an army with flyers, particularly the eldar variety, go first they can hem your whole line in with their base. I really hope there are a lot of fun ways to move these guys around.

   
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 Red Corsair wrote:
It's not really a nerf though.I'd call it a step to the side. They are getting Dakka dakka dakka, it's hard to justify a regular boy at 6ppm when they have mob rule, ear we go and DDD and THEN they get a clan trait. Especially when you look at the profile they have. The big issue orks had wasn't so much the infantry it was the prices of the other units. Sounds like everything else is getting the needed boosts. I still think the biggest issue against Ork viability from competition is going to be logistical. With 32mm bases and that giant oval the buggies are coming with, it is going to be desperate times figuring out where/how to deploy all your models and not have them get into eachothers way. If an army with flyers, particularly the eldar variety, go first they can hem your whole line in with their base. I really hope there are a lot of fun ways to move these guys around.

They went up a point and are on 32mm bases. A CQC focused unit. DDD makes them able to hit things that we literally had to just stare at before. It allows us to play the game. It's hardly a buff, particularly to a unit that isn't exactly known for its damage at range.

It's a massive, undeniable nerf.

Let's hope they have 5+ armour or something to balance things out...
   
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/12/what-is-the-speedwaaagh/

Reads as if each of the six new vehicles will be tied to a particular clan
   
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 xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/12/what-is-the-speedwaaagh/

Reads as if each of the six new vehicles will be tied to a particular clan


*** Rumours that some Snakebites have attached booster engines to gargantuan Squiggoths in an attempt to speed them up are as yet unproven.

Rocket-powered Turbo-Megasquigg confirmed.

Also, I think we have a new metal band.

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 xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/12/what-is-the-speedwaaagh/

Reads as if each of the six new vehicles will be tied to a particular clan

It does indeed but we've already seen a picture of the Boomdakka Snazzwagon and Boss on Trike painted in Evil Sunz colours so I very much doubt it'll be mandatory clan choices.
   
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I could see 7 pts if they got 4+ save.
   
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 xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/12/what-is-the-speedwaaagh/

Reads as if each of the six new vehicles will be tied to a particular clan

I will freek (snickers) the F out if I can't use one of each buggy with my evil sunz. Especially the warlord on trike. I just want an entire list made up of (filled) transports and other vehicles, don't make me run too many dupliates GW please
   
 
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