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They were just mentioning that from a competitive standpoint, his plan is to get into melee; the shooting is just a bonus.

I hope a decent (albeit if not the most competitive) list can be made from shooting units.

One battlewagon good at movement and advancing, BW with lots of guns (gunwagon) hitting on 4s?, Bonebreaker BW with a deffrolla. I think he mentioned this one also give them extra WS?

Sorry he was talking super fast

3 Battlewagons:

- basic
- gunwagon (BS4+)
- bonebreaka (deffrolla)

Sounds like they mostly just split the unit entry, maybe just to get more granular Power Levels.

So...what if you have a battlewagon with the rolla and killkannon? Because that's what my wagon has.

KMF is 9" apparently, stratagem to increase it to 18", affects units, 5++ invul.

Mentioned KFF is every unit within 6 inches gets the save, rather than every model.

Stompa extends range to KFF range to 18".

KFF: Every unit in 9" !!! (he corrected himself)

Strategem can boost it to 18"

Ninja'd

 lord_blackfang wrote:
3 Battlewagons:

- basic
- gunwagon (BS4+)
- bonebreaka (deffrolla)

Sounds like they mostly just split the unit entry, maybe just to get more granular Power Levels.

Also maybe to get around the rule of three for people who want to play Blitz Brigade style armies?

If basic is a Dedicated Transport that would make me extra-happy.

An outrider detachment called the boosta blasta led by a mega armoured big mek with kff for 362 points. Are there multiple KBBs in there? 3KBB plus him for 362
They are way less than 120!

EDIT: 100 points each

Kustom Boosta Blasta 100 points, Weirdboy still 62

KBB 100 pts!

Well the interesting thing about the loot it strategem. For 1 CP that unit gets the +1 SV. Now say you had already upgraded the unit to ardboys for 2 CP. Turn 1, your opponent now has a choice.

They have to focus the 5+ SV ork boys, 4+ with the bloodaxe kultur unless they have AP modifiers or ignore cover.

Or they can focus your vehicles who are flanking them or are out in front. If they focus the vehicle and kill it. Then you are going to upgrade your boys. If they don't then the vehicle is going to book it straight down the middle of the table.

On to turn 2, realistically you will have more than 1 vehicle so which one does your opponent focus on now. killing off the 3+ save boys, who could have had a painboy nearby from the beginning or the next vehicles approaching. If they focus a vehicle you pop the strategem on another unit nearby.

Whether this will truely work or not, idk. But forcing your opponent into bad decisions is always makes for an exciting game.

Big mek with PK, MA and KFF is 77 points!

Ooooh this stuff looks so hot.

Loving this stream.

E - Boyz at 7ppm......

The 1cp stikkbomb strat will make trukkboyz scary again. 60 shots from 10 boyz isn't bad at all, especially bad moons.

It will go well with the blood axe trait also--fall back the choppa boyz and stikkbomb them. Then charge again. 23 quick st3 hits from 10 guys! waaaaay better than guardsmen.

Remembering all of this crap is what is going to be hard.

The guy seems pretty dialed in as well. (And maybe on speed haha)

painboy is now 52pts base..... 65pts in total

Warbikes 23 points each

3 warbikes for 69 points. Meaning 23 ppm, down 4ppm

 Billagio wrote:
Big mek with PK, MA and KFF is 77 points!

hes 112pts, 77 base, 13 for klaw, 2 for kustom shoota and 20 for kff

Boosta-blasta in his list is 100 points! Unless im misreading - anyone want to confirm?

Scrapjet 99 pts

 deffrekka wrote:

 Billagio wrote:
Big mek with PK, MA and KFF is 77 points!

hes 112pts, 77 base, 13 for klaw, 2 for kustom shoota and 20 for kff

Oh yeah my bad I was looking at base cost

Warbikes at 23 are still garbage unless they've gained something..

Buggies besides the Squigbuggy are 100 points or cheaper (but was just going off the top of his head)

He also said ALL Buggies are BS4 (or 3 for SJD) for ALL shots. I wonder if he's made a mistake?

Mh i think the French Wargame Studio seriously mispelled the name of the buggy to mistake 3 times in a row lol.


All those things looks so promising!

Blood axe mega nobz in battlewagon exploding? Use the CP and get +0 armor save! xD

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Warbikes at 23 are still garbage unless they've gained something..

Traits and wartrikes?