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 Daedalus81 wrote:
CA could easily nerf knights

CA is as likely to nerf Grey Knights as it is Knight titans.


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 davou wrote:
anyone have a word on the points cost/rules for deffkoptas? I gotta leave for work and I cant watch an hour+ long youtube video

Base cost went down to 30 IIRC and they lost the bombs. Rokkits are still hideously expensive.

Interesting Ork game here (way better than Warhammer TV)



The stompa still feels like a waste (should have been 700pts most) but boyz are still great (as expected). My prediction is that people will just continue to take boyz with a 6 up invlun or fnp and then just ignore the other elite units we used to have to pay for. Honestly, for me it's going to have to be two squads.

I'm feeling 2 weirdboyz and 20,20,20 boyz using snake bites and then the rest as evil sunz.



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 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
CA could easily nerf knights

CA is as likely to nerf Grey Knights as it is Knight titans.


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 davou wrote:
anyone have a word on the points cost/rules for deffkoptas? I gotta leave for work and I cant watch an hour+ long youtube video

Base cost went down to 30 IIRC and they lost the bombs. Rokkits are still hideously expensive.

I think the rokkits are the same price I believe even for kopptas.

 davou wrote:
anyone have a word on the points cost/rules for deffkoptas? I gotta leave for work and I cant watch an hour+ long youtube video

Yea they're down like 30 pts but lost big bombs. They retain ability to take rokkits as well as big shoota.

Did anyone else catch that the deff rolla battle wagon gets +d6 attacks (!) on the charge?! Now at str 9 instead of 8! Ordered one the moment I heard it.

E- actual rule

i just head deffrolla was AP-2 and 2Damage now and lost my gak lol.

Deffroll as is isnt weak, its high strength and hits on 2s. But for some reason didnt have crap for AP despite being a giant meatgrinder ram and only did 1 damage...? i love it now.

One of the more hilarious strategies is tellyporting deffrolla wagons with Ramming Speed for 3d6 charge and extra impact hits.

For extra lulz add a cargo hold full of your favorite melee Nob build and Boarding Action so they can melee from inside the wagon.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
i just head deffrolla was AP-2 and 2Damage now and lost my gak lol.

Deffroll as is isnt weak, its high strength and hits on 2s. But for some reason didnt have crap for AP despite being a giant meatgrinder ram and only did 1 damage...? i love it now.

Deffrolla gives 6+D6 attacks now. Oh and S9.

120 points confirmed WITH ard case. Deffrolla is 19.


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Killa Kanz

Saw option +2S AP2 D2 +1A
Drill +1S AP4 D2

So they can roll 5 S7 attacks with the saw

Oh apparently Stompas don't get Kultur rules.

 davou wrote:
anyone have a word on the points cost/rules for deffkoptas? I gotta leave for work and I cant watch an hour+ long youtube video

30pts base, big shootas I believe got cheaper rokkits unchanged.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oh apparently Stompas don't get Kultur rules.

but they did in the warhammer TV thing last night? So are you telling me the devs didn't even know their own game? (I have a feeling this is a FAQ incoming)

As for the wagon, yes I am happy with the buff. It needed it for sure!

Killakanz lacking klan rules makes me sad. I may shift mine to bigshootas, i magnetized their rokkit arm for a reason lol.
Cut about ~60pts off them, assuming rokkits and bigshootas are same price. I mainly use them for melee anyway since they tend to catch people off guard a LOT

 lolman1c wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oh apparently Stompas don't get Kultur rules.

but they did in the warhammer TV thing last night? So are you telling me the devs didn't even know their own game? (I have a feeling this is a FAQ incoming)

Yeah, they cheated on stream, for a major Ork benefit, andthey still got wiped in 3 turns

Turns out there's a rule that superheavies don't get chapter tactics type stuff if they're in a "just the one superheavy" detachment.

You can see it here at 9:00 in the bottom left https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv9rCFkTkjM

i have a feeling they forgot about that rule because im pretty sure the Bad Moonz article said stompas with bad moonz trait reroll 1s

I am amazed tho that every single youtube review I've seen is hardcore shilling for the Mek shop. Are all these people just as bad at the game as GW's own game designers, or was it part of the contract to receive the Codex early to promote this one item specifically?

Remember that the two specialised battlewagons are only transport capacity 12 though and I think both of them must take 'ard cases.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
i just head deffrolla was AP-2 and 2Damage now and lost my gak lol.

Deffroll as is isnt weak, its high strength and hits on 2s. But for some reason didnt have crap for AP despite being a giant meatgrinder ram and only did 1 damage...? i love it now.

Deffrolla gives 6+D6 attacks now. Oh and S9.

120 points confirmed WITH ard case. Deffrolla is 19.


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Killa Kanz

Saw option +2S AP2 D2 +1A
Drill +1S AP4 D2

So they can roll 5 S7 attacks with the saw

this....literally all of this...is amazing for me.
I usually have 6 kanz as it is for melee because people have a bad habit of ignoring them "they hit on 5s!" and then they mulch your face.
I also own 5 battlewagons as it is. Only 2 rollas though, and since one of my wagons was permanently converted into a SupaKannon variant i guess that means i need 2 more rollas, since theres 3 wagon profiles apparently lol

The other 2 i assume have 'ard case already but thats where a 10man unit of nobz come in. They arent shooting, theyre just waiting for the ram and then get out and join the fightin'! If said wagon goes boom somehow before the nobz do, loot it! muhaha! As a toyz player this dex is amusing to say the least.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Need gorkanaut rules and points.

Gorkanaut 250pts Mork is 220pts.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oh apparently Stompas don't get Kultur rules.

You are joking right? Please tell that's just bad attempt at a joke?


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 Vineheart01 wrote:
i have a feeling they forgot about that rule because im pretty sure the Bad Moonz article said stompas with bad moonz trait reroll 1s

Well if that's reason technically article would be correct. Superheavy det with 3 stompas for 2760 pts would get trait. Yey?

Or a supreme command...

tneva82 wrote:
Well if that's reason technically article would be correct. Superheavy det with 3 stompas for 2760 pts would get trait. Yey?

You could bring a Stompa with 3 HQs in a supreme command detachment and benefit from kulturs

True though rule of 3 starts to limit things. You would need total of 7 hq then. 3 weirdboy, 3 warboss and big mek with kff i guess

 Kalani wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Need gorkanaut rules and points.

Gorkanaut 250pts Mork is 220pts.

Awesome, I assume that's unequipped with the extra weapons and that skorchas and twin big shootas didn't get point reductions.

PiñaColada wrote:

M10" feels slow for what is a downed airplane

This might be my favorite quote of the year

Does anyone know if disembarking counts as moving for the purposes of evil sunz klan traits?

Boys, warboss and painboy up in points....they really were intent on killing green tide.

 Kalani wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
Need gorkanaut rules and points.

Gorkanaut 250pts Mork is 220pts.

Is that with or without wargear?

 davou wrote:
Does anyone know if disembarking counts as moving for the purposes of evil sunz klan traits?

No, but you move after you disembark. The trait adds to your Move stat, disembark doesn't use move stat.

So, outside of one cheese build (first turn charge), Orks got fethed?

Fun... no kultur on lots of models that would love to take advantage of it; and points increases instead of decreases to the majority of models that needed it?

I mean I’ll wait for more reviews, but I’m not holding my squigs.

fe40k wrote:
So, outside of one cheese build (first turn charge), Orks got fethed?

Fun... no kultur on lots of models that would love to take advantage of it; and points increases instead of decreases to the majority of models that needed it?

I mean I’ll wait for more reviews, but I’m not holding my squigs.

I actually think Daedalus81 might be on to something with MSU Deffskulls.

How cheese t1 bike charge can be...or lone hq's unsupported.

gorkanaut full equip 311

morkanaut without CFK 286
with CFK 306