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I see defdreads become really strong with the tellyporta. 3 of them in your face at 105 points each seems pretty strong.

 Billagio wrote:

Do we know what the point reductions for MANz are yet? I only saw the PL

Not yet. Only Nobz. Winters was not so useful. GMG passsed over them pretty quickly.

Nobz 17 to 14
Big Choppa 7 to 5

MANz are allegedly 20 pts base, 35 with klaw and kustom shoota. Don't quote me on that, I don't remember where I've seen it.

In the index, the Mek gunz don't have the "gretchin" keyword. Only the servants themselves. And same goes for the killa kans.

So "MAYBE" we will have access to orks kultur' for them?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
MANz are allegedly 20 pts base, 35 with klaw and kustom shoota. Don't quote me on that, I don't remember where I've seen it.

If true that’s a fairly big reduction. I like it

tneva82 wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
CA was likely made with the Ork codex, and vice versa.

It's possible the idea of how Orks cit into the game will change when CA comes out next month-end as there may be a design idea that carries theough from the Ork codex to other units points cost in CA, as the Ork codex was likely designed with chapter approved 2 rules/points in mind as they were likely finalized or close.

Then again maybe not. People have sworn "X happens for SURE in next CA/FAQ" only for no appearance.

Fans are always "Wait for X". "Wait for 8th ed. No wait for codex. No wait for FAQ. No wait for CA. No wait for next FAQ. Still nothing? Next FAQ is SURE to have the magic bullet!"

Yep, I agree.

Been with GW products long enough to know it's possible, but to not expect that forethought also.

Psychocouac wrote:
I see defdreads become really strong with the tellyporta. 3 of them in your face at 105 points each seems pretty strong.

Is it really only 105 points for a full melee dredd? I assumed it would be 130.

Psychocouac wrote:
I see defdreads become really strong with the tellyporta. 3 of them in your face at 105 points each seems pretty strong.

At first I was going to say they can't do this because they become units of 1 model when deployed, but tellyporting happens before they deploy to the table.

Psychocouac wrote:
I see defdreads become really strong with the tellyporta. 3 of them in your face at 105 points each seems pretty strong.

Assuming they get any PL drops. But yeah seems codex could be renamed codex: teleporting walkers. Those looks to be what are going to hold the codex up at all if it's to actually be reasonably competive. Good thing I have 3 unpainted and 1 unassembled. Those into evil sun colours, evil sun gorkanaut and goff gorkanaut(3d6" charge strategem to compensate for paint job) gives decent amount of DS. Not sure can I fit all on 50% limit though but at least 2 dreads should be possible.

 ikeulhu wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
What makes you think that? They need to follow the deep strike beta rules like anyone else.

Nightlord1987 is referring to all the infiltration type stratagems that got errata changing them to extra movement instead of acting like a form of deep strike. Blood Axe Dead Sneaky strategem still functions like a form of deep strike while those others do not.

Bloodaxe is just deep strike after turn 2. It's the exact same wording as Tellyporta, except you pay 1 CP less for infantry with less than 9 PL.

This has nothing to do with infiltration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=schAySKQcJQ

An Orks v Knight battle report. I haven't watched it yet, so I have no idea what the lists are but the players are at least a bit more well versed in their armies than yesterdays stream. Could be fun to see what they bring to combat kights (hopefully not that darn stompa)

 Castozor wrote:

Psychocouac wrote:
I see defdreads become really strong with the tellyporta. 3 of them in your face at 105 points each seems pretty strong.

Is it really only 105 points for a full melee dredd? I assumed it would be 130.

All I know is 55 base and 30/15 for claws.

 Billagio wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
MANz are allegedly 20 pts base, 35 with klaw and kustom shoota. Don't quote me on that, I don't remember where I've seen it.

If true that’s a fairly big reduction. I like it

Confirmed now, points pages were just leaked on FB.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Castozor wrote:

Psychocouac wrote:
I see defdreads become really strong with the tellyporta. 3 of them in your face at 105 points each seems pretty strong.

Is it really only 105 points for a full melee dredd? I assumed it would be 130.

All I know is 55 base and 30/15 for claws.

There is a new second type of klaw that costs less points and does less AP and damage.

geargutz wrote:
well, if there is no change to the kff on the megamek and the other units that can take it (curse you GW stream for getting my hopes up) then the consolation is that its the same kff as the index bikemek and normal mek have...so you can take the index meks without feeling too ham stringed.

unless im missing something that makes the new kff on the codex entries sooooo good?

No the kff is the exact same... the guy on the stream got it wrong when he said they don't have to be entirely within the bubble to get the effect.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Castozor wrote:

Psychocouac wrote:
I see defdreads become really strong with the tellyporta. 3 of them in your face at 105 points each seems pretty strong.

Is it really only 105 points for a full melee dredd? I assumed it would be 130.

All I know is 55 base and 30/15 for claws.

There is a new second type of klaw that costs less points and does less AP and damage.

Oh, sweet. That's not the Kan saw?


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PiñaColada wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=schAySKQcJQ

An Orks v Knight battle report. I haven't watched it yet, so I have no idea what the lists are but the players are at least a bit more well versed in their armies than yesterdays stream. Could be fun to see what they bring to combat kights (hopefully not that darn stompa)

Pyrrhic victory for the knights. He forgot D6 damage on SAG. Missed charge with Deffrolla. Grot shield got bypassed and Nobz tagged.

Quite close.

Burna boys down to 12, I think nobody's mentioned this yet.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Billagio wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
MANz are allegedly 20 pts base, 35 with klaw and kustom shoota. Don't quote me on that, I don't remember where I've seen it.

If true that’s a fairly big reduction. I like it

Confirmed now, points pages were just leaked on FB.

please link I need to do research!


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Burna boys down to 12, I think nobody's mentioned this yet.

oh so they did get a price drop? The one I watched said they didn't.... that's awesome I love my burna boyz!

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Billagio wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
MANz are allegedly 20 pts base, 35 with klaw and kustom shoota. Don't quote me on that, I don't remember where I've seen it.

If true that’s a fairly big reduction. I like it

Confirmed now, points pages were just leaked on FB.

So 7 pts less per nob. Mob of 5 would basically become 6 man mob. Hopefully that's enough with the looted strategem. 1+ mega nobs could be nice

 lolman1c wrote:


oh so they did get a price drop? The one I watched said they didn't.... that's awesome I love my burna boyz!

The GMG guys skipped over points if they didn't notice something immediately different.

a 9pts increase for runt herders... why? Was it becuase people were taking cheap elites or something?

Can't have even semi working greentide so nerf grots as well that way.

Has the changes to the Traktor cannon been discussed? See the Tabletop Tactics batrep for the confirmation.

They are 1 shot each, STR 8 Ap -2 D6 DMG

However they HIT automatically, and if the target is a flyer they roll 2 D6 for dmg and choose the highest. Additionally if a unit with FLY keyword is destroyed by this gun they AUTOMATICALLY blow up.

All of this for ONLY 45 points. Spamming these is going to be absolutely INSANE.

Where is the page with points?

EldarExarch wrote:
Has the changes to the Traktor cannon been discussed? See the Tabletop Tactics batrep for the confirmation.

They are 1 shot each, STR 8 Ap -2 D6 DMG

However they HIT automatically, and if the target is a flyer they roll 2 D6 for dmg and choose the highest. Additionally if a unit with FLY keyword is destroyed by this gun they AUTOMATICALLY blow up.

All of this for ONLY 45 points. Spamming these is going to be absolutely INSANE.

Yep - good night Space Elves. Not insane, really, but pretty useful.

So, anyone got a link to that fb leak?

okay, this is kinda stupid. The Kombi-weapon with rokkit is 12pts (great! 8pts deduction like it should be!) But the rokkit launcha (the exact same thing) is still 12pts... huh...

So, question about the Bonebreaker Battlewagon... I just watched Winters' SEO review and he was talking about that the Deffrolla gets 3 extra attacks instead of the Deffrolla adding +3 to the models' WS (even though he kind of worded it as if the Deffrolla does indeed add to the models' WS and not add extra attacks). Anyone knows a definitive answer to this one?

 lolman1c wrote:
okay, this is kinda stupid. The Kombi-weapon with rokkit is 12pts (great! 8pts deduction like it should be!) But the rokkit launcha (the exact same thing) is still 12pts... huh...

Probably in order to not break Tankbustaz.

here is the link i got sent:
https://scontent.fybz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44852285_10156859159387311_3987872895203278848_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz1-1.fna&oh=f72f0cd7ca4e63410101522491688d9c&oe=5C53D3F3
https://scontent.fybz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43695477_10156859261257311_3114490397913513984_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.fybz1-1.fna&oh=8b12d1ceffa7d35882ea2b6cc5496651&oe=5C4BEB3E

EldarExarch wrote:
Has the changes to the Traktor cannon been discussed? See the Tabletop Tactics batrep for the confirmation.

They are 1 shot each, STR 8 Ap -2 D6 DMG

However they HIT automatically, and if the target is a flyer they roll 2 D6 for dmg and choose the highest. Additionally if a unit with FLY keyword is destroyed by this gun they AUTOMATICALLY blow up.

All of this for ONLY 45 points. Spamming these is going to be absolutely INSANE.

This has to be wrong. Auto st 8 hits d6 damage? on flyers??