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Hmph.

Oooooh, very intriguing!

Banelord??

Started messing with a Gatling gun and figured I had plenty of Lizardmen spears and figured I’d make some spear/shield Knights. Storm shields will be too big so I need to look for some Empire ones in a box.

I’m having a hard time deciding, play a pre-existing Legio with known colors?

Or, make up my own scheme?

Pros of an existing Legio: known reference material; maybe even existing decals, etc,

Pros of your own: its the way YOU want it; hours of nerd joy if you're the creative type.

^ wut he said.

I like doing my own stuff but there is something rewarding in trying to replicate something from a sourcebook. The Siege of Vraks books really made me want as Astorum legio.

One nice thing about tian hereldry compared to space marines is that the titans seem to have a lot more room for individual colour patterns among a legion, which means no two titans even from among canon legions looks alike.

BTW on the shoulder pads plain is pretty easy for both. Eye is very traitor one and I have hard time imagining loyal titan with it. Whatabout the 3rd one? Obviously loyalish but could some traitor titans be seen using one?

Just thinking if I would put one on some Mortis titans. for change of pace.

I also wonder about the Legio Titanicus shoulder pad... surely they traitor Titan legions would not be so hasty to remove that iconography as it has nothing to do with the Imperium, and is specifically Titans?

 ph34r wrote:
I also wonder about the Legio Titanicus shoulder pad... surely they traitor Titan legions would not be so hasty to remove that iconography as it has nothing to do with the Imperium, and is specifically Titans?

Probably true but my legio is proud to serve the Warmaster first and Mars second.

tneva82 wrote:
BTW on the shoulder pads plain is pretty easy for both. Eye is very traitor one and I have hard time imagining loyal titan with it. Whatabout the 3rd one? Obviously loyalish but could some traitor titans be seen using one?

Just thinking if I would put one on some Mortis titans. for change of pace.

Both sides think they are the "true" Cult Mechanicus / Titan Legions, and the other side are the deluded turncoats who are misusing the symbols. There's no problem with the Horus-centric ones using "loyal" symbology. Those titans have used them for centuries, and the Omnissiah doesn't make mistakes...

All the traitor titans pictured in the AT rulebook and all the Horus heresy books have the Collegia Titanicus roundel and/or the Imperial eagle. Admittedly that's because Forge World don't make a carapace that doesn't have the eagle on it for their 40k Reaver, and likewise for the Warlord's carapace armour panels, but there you go. I used one of each carapace piece for my Warhounds.

Another day, another knight box bought. Now totaling 18...One list alternative I had been considering was running about 100 pts short so 2 knights more...Plus full squadron of 6 with pair of close combat weapons.

I think I'll end up getting 4 more boxes sooner or later for squadron of 3 knights with pair of meltas and 3 knights with pair of battle cannons for heavy fire support squadron. And guess another squadron of twin close combat weapons. Well this is for future. Next purchaces will be warhounds for both legions and later another warlord for Mortis as well.

But knights...Now whopping 18. But you know they have serious weakness. Sure they rip titans apart in close combat no problem but problem is the knights tend to blow up in the process when titan dies! And 6 knights are about price of reaver so while initially the speed how knights tear up titans might seem too good the fact they tend to more or less die in the process makes up for it.

When we played the Knights got into melee alarmingly fast and were good at tarpitting something since titans can't step over the top of them. I do think it'd be a little more realistic if Knights could only target a titan's legs since hitting a Warlord's head seems kinda silly.

Fajita Fan wrote:
When we played the Knights got into melee alarmingly fast and were good at tarpitting something since titans can't step over the top of them. I do think it'd be a little more realistic if Knights could only target a titan's legs since hitting a Warlord's head seems kinda silly.

Head? We are hitting weapons with those. Easy to take one out and then S7-S9 hits on body. That seems better than hitting head.

Still we have had them get into combat(like here) or been blown apart. I find having volcano cannon equipped titan moving behind front titan is great help. If knights don't come ahead then well good. If they do you drop volcano cannon template over them even if it means risking binking void shield from your titan.

Either way even if you lose reaver to them resulting damage seems to result in knights be out as well. 6 of them costs about reaver's worth so I wouldn't say that bad trade off. After all they aren't quaranteed getting there and reaver has already done something. Warhound could be bad tradeoff. Of course warlord could be good tradeoff. But that's why you have reavers and warhounds(especially inferno+plasma combo is nasty) to ensure knights don't get nilly willy to warlord.

I mean it seems silly that a Knight can hit a Warlord in the head.

It seems like Warhounds really open up listbuilding, I like the model and their role on the battlefield.

True bit silly but it's such an minor issue and doesn't seem to be issue balance wise we aren't fretting over that one. Especially as hitting head doesn't even seem to be that often even used. Generally we are aiming for weapons(easy to take down which has instant effect on efficiency of titan and then starts to cause S7/S9 hits on body), body(due to weapons often ends up damaged so plus modifiers so easy way to cause destruction of titan. Plus if you can get critical 2 it's shields out which is huge) or legs(the criticals there really hurt). Head is generally bit of "meh" place to hit. Head is also the most armoured place! Albeit 1 blip less damage track there but you need to roll 1 higher to cause direct hit so...

James Hewitt had put up a set of rules giving each hit location on the Warlord, Reaver and Warhound their own Scale values, and a rule saying a weapon could only hit something with a Sclae equal to or less than its own Scale + 2 (IIRC). He took it down again; hopefully it'' make a more permanent return.

It never made the rules because there wasn't room to include the scale values on the command terminals without it getting cluttered.

Neat, I didn't know about that.

First Warhound done.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
All the traitor titans pictured in the AT rulebook and all the Horus heresy books have the Collegia Titanicus roundel and/or the Imperial eagle. Admittedly that's because Forge World don't make a carapace that doesn't have the eagle on it for their 40k Reaver, and likewise for the Warlord's carapace armour panels, but there you go. I used one of each carapace piece for my Warhounds.

Back in the day we viewed this as that the traitors still believed in the imperium per say, just that Horus should be running it, so that justified the eagles. But as time went on and they mutated more those icons were gradually replaced.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
First Warhound done.

Wow, looks evil in black...

 Overread wrote:

Still its a fantastic kit; knocks socks off the old metal one I have (in other news anyone want vintage stuff?

If your actually selling I might be interested.

I have to admit the Titanicus game looks epic (no pun intended), although the price does make me wince. I'll watch it for now and if it takes hold locally I'll start.

I’m just going to leave this here.

https://youtu.be/vUxDmKFCD2o

 KTG17 wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
All the traitor titans pictured in the AT rulebook and all the Horus heresy books have the Collegia Titanicus roundel and/or the Imperial eagle. Admittedly that's because Forge World don't make a carapace that doesn't have the eagle on it for their 40k Reaver, and likewise for the Warlord's carapace armour panels, but there you go. I used one of each carapace piece for my Warhounds.

Back in the day we viewed this as that the traitors still believed in the imperium per say, just that Horus should be running it, so that justified the eagles. But as time went on and they mutated more those icons were gradually replaced.

Also, all the depictions of Death's heads titans in the HH black books are from Prospero (where they were still technically Loyalist) or Isstvan 3, when the Heresy began.

Mind you, even that big eye of Horus symbol could be used on early or pre-Heresy units, if you think of it as an honour badge for units directly attached to the 63rd Fleet.

Just a couple of Knights to play around with. I also wanted to quickly mock up carapace Gatling blasters for a Warlord.

@Nostrodamus: looks super clean. Well done! I'm just assembling my four. Any magnetization hints? Think in gonna do it at the elbow.

Gentlemen, we need help. For this weekend campaign battle, hell forge invasion, some homebrew chaosified and mutated titan rules are necessary; but literally nothing gets into mind, except maybe some 6+ demonical save once voids are down.
Do you have any ideas or solutions?

 doktor_g wrote:
@Nostrodamus: looks super clean. Well done! I'm just assembling my four. Any magnetization hints? Think in gonna do it at the elbow.

Warhound? I cut part of the ball from the piece that goes between gun and elbow. Magnet there, magnet to hole in gun, done. Maybe not pretties solution but it works for me.


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Regis_sotum wrote:
Gentlemen, we need help. For this weekend campaign battle, hell forge invasion, some homebrew chaosified and mutated titan rules are necessary; but literally nothing gets into mind, except maybe some 6+ demonical save once voids are down.
Do you have any ideas or solutions?

More aggressive machine spirit(possession) table? Drop of command value for machine spirit tests? Improved unarmed attack ability?