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Valkia is a Daemon Princess.

So this was a thing, apparently. It's been changed since to Gloomspite vs Stormcast but... looking good for Seraphon vs StD.

Also Fyreslayers/Seraphon battletomes are going to "unavailable" for some stores so it seems they're the next two tomes getting updates.

Are the "out of stock" or "sold out online" because there's a big difference.

The former is simply stock issues and overseas stores get their stock in bulk orders shipped over, so they run a higher risk of running out of stock on items before they get restocked. If its the latter then it means that the item isn't going to be restocked and that means its being removed from sale.

Removal might mean that:
1) They are reboxing which triggers a change of box code and thus the system counts it as the original being removed from sale

2) They are removing it from sale and not bringing it back in any form

3) They are removing it from sale and replacing it with an updated version.

Neither Fireslayer or Seraphon are out of stock in the UK store. Seraphon is DO only though so who knows.

 Overread wrote:
Are the "out of stock" or "sold out online" because there's a big difference.

The former is simply stock issues and overseas stores get their stock in bulk orders shipped over, so they run a higher risk of running out of stock on items before they get restocked. If its the latter then it means that the item isn't going to be restocked and that means its being removed from sale.

Removal might mean that:
1) They are reboxing which triggers a change of box code and thus the system counts it as the original being removed from sale

2) They are removing it from sale and not bringing it back in any form

3) They are removing it from sale and replacing it with an updated version.

Stores are telling people that the tomes will not be restocked and the only way to get them is through GW.

So looks like the slaves of slaanesh are next in the chute.

Welp, I’m excited!

I'm excited about slaanesh. A bunch of heroes atm it seems like, hopefully there are more units to look at, and mortals to come.

Yeah I really hope that they get the appropriate equivalent of bloodreavers & wrath mongers etc.

The reveal was all demons. I'm interested to know what their mortal equivalents (if any) are going to be.

 cole1114 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Are the "out of stock" or "sold out online" because there's a big difference.

The former is simply stock issues and overseas stores get their stock in bulk orders shipped over, so they run a higher risk of running out of stock on items before they get restocked. If its the latter then it means that the item isn't going to be restocked and that means its being removed from sale.

Removal might mean that:
1) They are reboxing which triggers a change of box code and thus the system counts it as the original being removed from sale

2) They are removing it from sale and not bringing it back in any form

3) They are removing it from sale and replacing it with an updated version.

Stores are telling people that the tomes will not be restocked and the only way to get them is through GW.

Well we know now that the Fyrelsayers are confirmed so that near enough confirms new Lizardbook!

I'm not really sure where to ask this, so just gonna post it here.

How are the future prospects for a Free People's battletome looking? I've got a steadily growing concern that they could potentially end up being purged from the line like Greenskins.

 nurgle5 wrote:
I'm not really sure where to ask this, so just gonna post it here.

How are the future prospects for a Free People's battletome looking? I've got a steadily growing concern that they could potentially end up being purged from the line like Greenskins.

It is exceptionally unlikely that GW would purge Free Peoples from the setting. First up they are the only human faction (stormcast are not actually humans). Secondly almost all the cities in the Mortal Realms that are not aelf, dwarf or undead are Free Peoples Cities - ergo they feature heavily in the lore itself.


Overall that isn't the best defence, but its pretty unlikely that GW would remove them, they've just too much connection to the game. Now they might remove and move models around a lot, but the faction as a whole I would not expect to vanish; however WHEN they might get a battletome is impossible to guess.

There has been no word from the design team, which means while they are a huge part of the setting, there are currently no plans that we know of to get us a book anytime soon and we must rely on the legacy warscrolls (lolololol) if you want to play them.

They’re involved heavily in the lore. However, that doesn’t prevent them from becoming NPCs to just drive the story. Who knows. Are free-people taking Slaanesh’s place in the “who gets squatted next”? Dunno. It could easily happen, but it could easily be an upcoming release. I’d say it’s 50/50 right now, sadly. I didn’t expect greenskins to bite it either.

 nurgle5 wrote:
I'm not really sure where to ask this, so just gonna post it here.

How are the future prospects for a Free People's battletome looking? I've got a steadily growing concern that they could potentially end up being purged from the line like Greenskins.

Twitter, 2/18/19

Josh Reynolds(prominent AoS BL Author) :

"Todays realisation: I would give my right molar to help write the lore for a Free Peoples battletome for Age of Sigmar

...

Well, somebodys right molar, anyway.

Pete Foley, (Book and Box Games Manager at GW)

"Check your DMs Josh" including a .gif of The Rock "Lets do this"

I think the prospects of us getting a Free Peoples battletome is somewhat promising.

auticus wrote:
There has been no word from the design team, which means while they are a huge part of the setting, there are currently no plans that we know of to get us a book anytime soon and we must rely on the legacy warscrolls (lolololol) if you want to play them.

In fairness top end GW Staff don't give out hints until its in the official marketing release.
So basically they won't let it slip until its the actual time for the info to come out and rumours have dried up a lot to what they once were.*

At this stage I'd be really shocked if GW removed or didn't release Freepeoples. Sure I can see GW reworking them = removing and adding models etc... But I can't see the faction vanish as a whole. They are just too strong a component of the story and lore and setting itself. One must remember that Stormcast are not technically human and that the greater population of many realms is humans and humans are Freepeoples (at present its the only major named faction we have). It would be like GW removing Imperial Guard from sale and just sticking to Marines. Yes they can do it, but its darn odd to have a huge armed force (Guard) in all the stories, lore and background and yet not have them as an active army.



* I put this down to GW being better at preventing and discouraging them; but also due to the greater outreach of marketing that GW is doing now. In the Kirby days I think there was more pressure on some staff to leak info because there were long periods of silence which led to demoralized fans. There was more temptation for staff to let slip info and for staffers to keep fans happy.

Honestly, I think that a Free Peoples battletome would be the most important one overall. Because it’s the benchmark that all the others should be compared to rule wise, fluff wise etc.

It’s nearly there too. There’s the handbook rules and a near full plastic range. Even if the models are a bit off in design (German mercenary look).

I understand that. I'm just going with what we know concretely.

Hundreds of times wishlists transform into its going to happen and I just like to keep context that no one knows anything on these forums concretely.

The good news is that free peoples perform well in the tabletop and have a solid set of allegiance abilities.

This might be a good time to mention that WarCom has announced another community survey set to go up on April 15th. Last year's survey was one of the primary factors in GW deciding to remake the Adepta Sororitas, so if you want a faction brought back, this would be a good opportunity to let GW know directly. I know I'm going to voice my support for updating Free Peoples and bringing back the Tomb Kings in some form (I like the idea of focusing on the constructs and Ushabti).

The discontinuation of the plastic Spynx was the worst crime GW has ever done in miniature form. A kit so beautifull, that was so short period of time to purchase... oh. How it hurts.

If they can dig out that ancient pewter warp fire thrower, then surely they can dig out the plastic tomb king units right?

 EnTyme wrote:
This might be a good time to mention that WarCom has announced another community survey set to go up on April 15th. Last year's survey was one of the primary factors in GW deciding to remake the Adepta Sororitas, so if you want a faction brought back, this would be a good opportunity to let GW know directly. I know I'm going to voice my support for updating Free Peoples and bringing back the Tomb Kings in some form (I like the idea of focusing on the constructs and Ushabti).

You could not believe how hard Jess Goodwin burst out in laughter when I asked him if that community survey was the real reason sisters where being remade.

Had a nice chat with him during Warhammer fest Europe last summer. He told me the process from sketches to boxed set takes well over 4 years. The designs and sketches were long made, it was a perfect storm of internet meme, community survey and publicity stunt.

Asking for tomb kings back will not have the same effect at all, because it probably wasn't on GW's radar to begin with (unlike SoB).

So Seraphon won at adepticon, with an old tome. Now I really want to see how they look with a new one...

Like Khorne, Seraphon rely entirely on gimmick play to do decently at tournaments and outside them. Summoning is the gimmick, and they do it extremely well (a properly optimized list has little trouble bringing in 700+ points a game). This is tied almost entirely to a Slann general, making one auto-take, with the command trait and artifact more or less being fixed as well since one option is far superior. The slann does not actually cast spells for the most part, but is instead focused on getting as many potential spell casts as possible then not using them in order to summon; the intent was undoubtedly to make things a trade-off, but the result is that one of the best spellcasters in the game is not worth casting spells with (unless you brought two). The saurus half of the army performs worse than the skink half, and so is never seen outside casual play (bar the astrolith). Speaking of, going with a saurus general instead of a slann single-handedly takes them from overpowered to sub-par, building an army around saurus makes them even worse. There is a solid bunch of units that are undercosted to overpowered on their own which are spammed consistently.

Suffice it to say both the internal and external balance is pretty bad, and the functionality serves to restrict viable options tremendously. A new tome that does for Seraphon what Khorne just got would be a rebirth for the army, I hope it works out that way.

Seraphon won adepticon, as I was told, by spam summoning to hell and back. Spam summoning has been an OP busted thing since it was first revealed as coming back for free. That an army won one of the biggest tournaments in north america using it shocks me none.

Spam summoning is something that can run amuk here in our local area and it causes a lot of frustration. It was one of the things that irritated the bejeezus out of me with the last GHB when they came out and said that free summoning off the chain was going to be a thing again, and that "don't worry it won't be that bad" was not something I put any stock in.

Seraphon gimmick summoning, much like the FEC version, is super out of line with the rest of the game and invalidates quite a few factions. A new army book should bring that more in line. Will they do so?

Depends on how they are feeling at the time I suppose.

https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/18320-aos-2-seraphon-discussion/?page=19

They talking about it here.

auticus wrote:
Seraphon won adepticon, as I was told, by spam summoning to hell and back.

Let me shorten that for you:

Seraphon won

The rest is simply redundant.

Well at least now perhaps the jolly old "summoning is perfectly fine and totally balanced, its not like seraphon are winning any majors, you just need to git gud" can go away.


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Also as far as aspiring balance issues in the game, Adepticon I'm told was pretty bog standard in the armies that showed up. Heavy on daughters of khaine. Fair representation of the skaven and FEC (shocking I know). A lot of missing factions.

I don't feel thats pretty good for the game. I know we are getting more tomes this year. Thats good, I hope it resolves this.

Kings of War had 12 of their 14 factions represented at Adepticon and were all competitive. I think thats a good goal to aspire to get toward.