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As an American, I can tell you we are ingrained from birth with an unquenchable thirst to crush our enemies, to see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

It's interesting, I think most British people would consider the phrase "show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" to be incredibly obnoxious at best.

Is this the case in America? I think it is an American phrase but that's not to say that most would agree with it.

Obviously there are cultural differences, just look at attitudes towards public healthcare for that. Let's not delve too deeply into the obligations of the state to its citizens and how the cold war potentially stifled the Labour movement in America though.

I think Brits certainly would have a "it's the taking part that counts" attitude towards most leisure hobbies. Following a pro sports team now, that;s a whole other matter and this is an example where British people, in my opinion, are more crazy and entitled than our friends 'cross thu pond.

It is something I've noticed on these and other wargaming forums but as said it is an incredibly broad stroke. Some of the fluffiest, role playing, play for fun types have been Americans and some of the most ruthless gamers have been Brits.

Dai wrote:
It's interesting, I think most British people would consider the phrase "show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" to be incredibly obnoxious at best.

Is this the case in America? I think it is an American phrase but that's not to say that most would agree with it.

Obviously there are cultural differences, just look at attitudes towards public healthcare for that. Let's not delve too deeply into the obligations of the state to its citizens and how the cold war potentially stifled the Labour movement in America though.

I think Brits certainly would have a "it's the taking part that counts" attitude towards most leisure hobbies. Following a pro sports team now, that;s a whole other matter and this is an example where British people, in my opinion, are more crazy and entitled than our friends 'cross thu pond.

It is something I've noticed on these and other wargaming forums but as said it is an incredibly broad stroke. Some of the fluffiest, role playing, play for fun types have been Americans and some of the most ruthless gamers have been Brits.

I think this hits it on the head in regards to attitude, regardless of where a player is from. Is it the outcome that drives you or the participation in the game. I like winning a game but I find a lot more enjoyment of the game being close, having a ton of cool moments and telling a story that could reasonably be set in the setting than who scored more points. If a game turns into a curb stomp, even in my favor, that does little for me because a lot of the above is lost and my opponent is probably not having fun either.

For me it's the journey not the destination.

HoundsofDemos wrote:

Dai wrote:
It's interesting, I think most British people would consider the phrase "show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" to be incredibly obnoxious at best.

Is this the case in America? I think it is an American phrase but that's not to say that most would agree with it.

Obviously there are cultural differences, just look at attitudes towards public healthcare for that. Let's not delve too deeply into the obligations of the state to its citizens and how the cold war potentially stifled the Labour movement in America though.

I think Brits certainly would have a "it's the taking part that counts" attitude towards most leisure hobbies. Following a pro sports team now, that;s a whole other matter and this is an example where British people, in my opinion, are more crazy and entitled than our friends 'cross thu pond.

It is something I've noticed on these and other wargaming forums but as said it is an incredibly broad stroke. Some of the fluffiest, role playing, play for fun types have been Americans and some of the most ruthless gamers have been Brits.

I think this hits it on the head in regards to attitude, regardless of where a player is from. Is it the outcome that drives you or the participation in the game. I like winning a game but I find a lot more enjoyment of the game being close, having a ton of cool moments and telling a story that could reasonably be set in the setting than who scored more points. If a game turns into a curb stomp, even in my favor, that does little for me because a lot of the above is lost and my opponent is probably not having fun either.

For me it's the journey not the destination.

I feel the same way. Thats why id like all factions and army choices to be balanced against each other so that curb stomps are less likely to happen in whatever case.

Your never going to have perfect balance, either internally or across all of 40ks many factions. 8th cleaned up the game, at least in the beginning and as with most editions, has revealed winners and losers. How much of a gap between two given armies is both on GW and the players playing the game.