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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/08 01:32:47
Subject: Nob double choppa and "wargear option"
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Been Around the Block
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The codex says:
"Any model may replace its slugga and choppa with items from the Nob Weapons list."
"NOB Weapons:
Up to two weapons can be chosen from the following list:
• Big choppa • Choppa • Killsaw • Power klaw • Power stabba • Slugga"
Can a Nob take 2 choppas?
I am confussed because of this "stepping into a new edition" faq:
"Q: Can a model take the same wargear option more than once? For example, can a Space Marine Terminator replace his storm bolter with a cyclone missile launcher and another storm bolter, and then replace its "new" storm bolter with a heavy flamer?
A: No"
The example is what confuses me because in it the Terminator is using the wargear option of changing his storm bolter twice... and the Nob would only be using the "replace choppa and slugga for two weapons of this list" option once...
So what is exactly a "wargear option"? Is the weapon "choppa" a "wargear option" or is "replacing the choppa+slugga for whatever combination of weapons from the list" the "wargear option"?
What do you think?
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This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2018/11/08 01:51:39
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/08 08:12:19
Subject: Nob double choppa and "wargear option"
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Norn Queen
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In Short, yes. The FAQ doesn't apply here because you're not replacing 1 choppa for 2 choppas, you're replacing a choppa AND slugga for two items from the list. What the FAQ stops you doing is, for example, replacing a Storm Bolter for Meltagun+Storm Bolter, then replacing that new Storm Bolter with a Meltagun+Storm Bolter, etc. Because it says "slugga and choppa" you can't do what pre-errata Tau did and replace 1 weapon for 2. You're replacing both weapons for "Up to two weapons" "from the following list". So you lose your original choppa and slugga and can take a single choppa (if you want) or take two choppas.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/11/08 08:13:07
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/08 08:40:46
Subject: Nob double choppa and "wargear option"
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Fairly sure this will be addressed in FAQ anyway as it's fairly common question so wait for bit more than week if you want to play safe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/08 12:43:09
Subject: Re:Nob double choppa and "wargear option"
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Dakka Veteran
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Seems legit to me. The situation in the FAQ is different.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/08 17:55:03
Subject: Re:Nob double choppa and "wargear option"
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Been Around the Block
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Thanks, thats what I thought but stilll wanted a second opinion
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/11/08 17:55:31
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/09 10:11:55
Subject: Nob double choppa and "wargear option"
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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I'd also like to point out that AOBR nobz and the nobz box come with both right- and and left-handed choppas, so it's very likely that this change was intentional to reflect the possibilities of the box.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/10 15:21:48
Subject: Nob double choppa and "wargear option"
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Ya I mean, space marine veterans can take 2 chainswords, choppas are essentially chainswords. Go nuts with your super-choppy nobs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/13 14:18:35
Subject: Nob double choppa and "wargear option"
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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The only reason I see this sticking around is that there exist in the nob kit a couple of choppas and sluggas that are the opposite hand, meaning you can make double-choppa or double-slugga nobz out of the kit if youw ant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/13 20:48:10
Subject: Nob double choppa and "wargear option"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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+1 to the intenional
Boys gained tankbustaz bombs, because the kit includes one as well,
You can also do slugga slugga nobz.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/11/13 20:50:02
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