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Brigade seems standard post Codex. Evil Sunz for the obvious reasons. Move, charge. No spot for a Warboss. Big Mek with Waagh will have to make due. The Weirdboys will have to can't their spells and then do some Smiting. Army will mostly play the objectives, and can hold off the big charges for turns 2 and 3. I;m happy to have this mostly painted already. Just have to do a couple Koptas.

Tellyporta Meganobs vs Deff Dreads. The debate goes on.

Brigade Detachment +12CP (Orks)
Clan Kultur
Selections: Evil Sunz
HQ
Big Mek (Index)
Selections: Da Killa Klaw, Follow me Ladz!, Kustom Force Field, Power Klaw, Warlord Goes with the big blobs of Boys, Follow me ladz to advance and charge.

Weirdboy
Selections: 2. Warpath, 3. Da Jump, Warphead (1 CP) Warphead for Smite

Weirdboy
Selections: 3. Da Jump, 4. Fists of Gork, Warphead (1 CP) Warphead for Smite

Zhadsnark Da Ripper - Goes with the Stormboys. If the Stormboys don't deepstrike.
Da Beast
Selections: 2x Big Shoota

Troops
Boyz
Boss Nob
Selections: Power Klaw, Slugga
29x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Boyz
Boss Nob
Selections: Power Klaw, Slugga
29x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Boyz - For turn 1 Mob Up.
Boss Nob
Selections: Choppa, Power Klaw
9x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Gretchin - Board control and or getting in the way of some shots.
Selections: 10x Gretchin

Gretchin
Selections: 10x Gretchin

Gretchin
Selections: 10x Gretchin

Elites
Meganobz - Probably in the tellyporta, 2nd or 3rd turn charge.
Boss Meganob w/ Saws
Selections: Killsaws (Pair)
Meganob w/ Saws
Selections: Killsaws (Pair)
Meganob w/ Saws
Selections: Killsaws (Pair)
Meganob w/ Saws
Selections: Killsaws (Pair)
Meganob w/ Saws
Selections: Killsaws (Pair)

Painboy
Selections: Power Klaw

Tankbustas - I tried makign alost without them. But too many situations need them. Hopefully they can hide from Alphas.
Selections: 2x Bomb Squig
Boss Nob
Selections: Rokkit Launcha
9x Tankbusta
Selections: 9x Rokkit Launcha

Fast Attack
Deff Kopta - Interesting single units here. Great mortal wound generation possible with the Big Bomms. Maybe vs those Scouts squads that push up. Or to tie up some othe runits or grab objectives.
DeffKopta
Selections: Bigbomm (Index), Kopta Rokkits

Deff Kopta
DeffKopta
Selections: Bigbomm (Index), Kopta Rokkits

Stormboyz
Boss Nob
Selections: Power Klaw, Slugga
29x Stormboy

Heavy Support Sadly, no points for KMK's
Mek Gunz
Gun
Selections: Traktor Kannon

Mek Gunz
Gun
Selections: Traktor Kannon

Mek Gunz
Gun
Selections: Smasha Gun

Dedicated Transportfor the Tankbustas
Trukk
Selections: Big Shoota

Very sad not to have enough point for a Burna Bomma, or even a Dakkajet.

Is the brigade fast attack tax better than the hq tax of multiple battalions? I am not impressed with deffkoptas but weirdboyz are alwasy good. I know you lose out on some cp--do the stormboyz get into combat turn 1? If not then a unit of boyz tellyported in might be better.

Usually 2x Battallions are better than a brigade since shooty units like tankbustas are way better with the Bad Moons kultur while choppy units only benefit from other kulturs like the Evil Sunz ones.

In a footslogging list more stormboyz should be more effective than koptas.

 Blackie wrote:
Usually 2x Battallions are better than a brigade since shooty units like tankbustas are way better with the Bad Moons kultur while choppy units only benefit from other kulturs like the Evil Sunz ones.

In a footslogging list more stormboyz should be more effective than koptas.

Doubling down on this, you are already sad about not having the points for better things in your first list. Bring two battalions, get ideal kultur on more of your units and get units you are excited about. With stratagems we are getting 1 tellyporta+ramspeed assault a turn, 1 set of exploding 5's/6's a turn, 1 'Showin off a turn', 1 Wreckerz a turn, 1 Endless Green tide a game, 1 pile in a turn. It strangely encourages a semi-diverse list of niche plans you can fit in your army that you want optimized units for to make the points worthwhile. So instead of a Brigade to get the most points, go for 2x battalion to reduce your tax and get two or three elements worth optimizing hard turn one and two.

Are you able to take index deffkoptas if they are in the new dex?

I thought you couldn't but the big bomm wargear might make it so.

it is possible to use the stratagem tellyporta more than once per turn?
Thanks

mhalko1 wrote:
Are you able to take index deffkoptas if they are in the new dex?

I thought you couldn't but the big bomm wargear might make it so.

Assuming your FLGS/Play group/ Tournament allows index, GW has said that codex data sheets CAN use index wargear if its not in the codex the big bomm and killsaw on koptas are examples of this.

I know what you guys are saying. I could drop the Koptas to reduce the tax, or split the Stormboys in to 3 smaller 10 man units that hunt FLY keywords. I really do not plan on running Bad Moons, since I am not keen on shooting. The points saved, might provide room to switch to 3 Smashas, and get rid of the Tractor Kannons. The Stormboys would take care of the flyers anyways.

Snakebite Tankbustas? Tankbustas in a Trukk? Can units in a trukk even use stratagems?

In any case. I will let you guys know how the list goes. Only time will tell.