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Aspirant Tech-Adept






You're building a small necron army. 3 spiders or 3 wraiths?

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Nihilistic Necron Lord




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6 Wraiths.

Wraiths are great, and hopefully will even get a small point deduction in CA. They can fit into just about every Necron list, without issue.

Spyders are a very niche unit, and are only useful if you have a lot of vehicles in your Necron list.

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Wow, and to think I was on the edge about a necron army and it was a cools video on how to convert a wraith to a spider that tipped me...

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 Techpriestsupport wrote:
Wow, and to think I was on the edge about a necron army and it was a cools video on how to convert a wraith to a spider that tipped me...


There is a great conversion out there for turning wraiths into Scorpions, which would be cool stand-ins for Spyders.

But yeah, as far as utility on the table, wraiths all the way.
   
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 Techpriestsupport wrote:
You're building a small necron army. 3 spiders or 3 wraiths?


Spyders mostly aren't even a consideration in 8th.

Go 6 wraiths. They're an awesome go-to unit in every game and are only that much better in smaller games where less firepower can be brought against them.


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There is no courage to be found here my nephews, no honour to be had. Your souls will join the trillion others in the mist shrieking uselessly to eternity, weeping for the empire you could not save.

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Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

Go wraith, they are excellent at low point games. Necrons are very strong at 1k. Here is a hard to kill, do lots of damage, low deployment count, necron list. Everything (except the cryptek) is T5 multiwound. Tomb blades are -1 to hit and get AP-1 at 12" from mephrit. Destroyers use EP to kill whatever there is. Tomb blades and destroyers get +1 to RP from the cryptek. Wraiths can also reanimate for 2 CP. Everything can fly, so it cant be tied up in melee, and can still shoot after falling back.

Spoiler:

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Necrons) [55 PL, 1000pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Dynastic Heirlooms: Dynastic Heirlooms: 1 Extra Artefact (-1CP)

Dynasty Choice: Dynasty: Mephrit

+ HQ +

Cryptek [5 PL, 85pts]: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light

+ Fast Attack +

Canoptek Wraiths [18 PL, 354pts]
. 6x Canoptek Wraith w/ Particle Caster: 6x Particle Caster

Destroyers [18 PL, 300pts]
. 6x Destroyer: 6x Gauss Cannon

Tomb Blades [14 PL, 261pts]
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shieldvanes
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shieldvanes
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shieldvanes
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shieldvanes
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shieldvanes
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shieldvanes
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shieldvanes
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shieldvanes
. Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shieldvanes

++ Total: [55 PL, 1000pts] ++

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Wraiths are one of the only units keeping Necrons viable at the moment. They are beautiful models with scary and fun rules.
   
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Wraiths have been amazing every edition since they were first added in 3ed. Go with the Wraith, their combination of survivability, board control, and damage output have put them in the top tier for over a decade. This has not changed in 2018, and unlikely to change in 2019.

However, you can certainly build a list around Spiders. It will not be as competitive, and will be hard to design, but it is technically possible.
   
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Spiders don't help vehicles as much as you might think. The extra d3 wounds isn't going to help in a lot of circumstances.

CA will likely only give them a point reduction, which is desperately needed, but living metal needs a rule change to make it worth while. A monolith without quantum shielding really doesn't benefit at all from a Spyder and cryptek combo, which is crazy.

For that reason wraiths are a safe bet. It's a shame, cause I love the idea of spyders.

Hopefully Spyder points will fall enough that they are useful to Shepard herds of scarabs.
   
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One idea I could see would be if asoider takes no action in a turn it can overcharge a units weapons when it shoots, like increasing str or ap by one.

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I really wish they had the old edition wraights. I really low the hood, long tail and claws.

   
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Wraiths are flat out better units than spyders.
Spyders are a joke. No character rule, so they can be shot off the table. Expensive, so you can't have many of them, and they can't split up like in 3rd ed so you can't have them go around independently and repair vehicles or make a nice anti-psychic bubble.

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 Niiai wrote:
I really wish they had the old edition wraights. I really low the hood, long tail and claws.


Glad I'm not the only one who preferred the old model!
   
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Crispy78 wrote:
 Niiai wrote:
I really wish they had the old edition wraights. I really low the hood, long tail and claws.


Glad I'm not the only one who preferred the old model!


I liked the old lore, how they were creepy research machines which used their phase tech to remove samples from people, leaving no external signs of injury.
It said in one WD article that they were once serial kilers, but that lore aspect got moved over to deathmarks.

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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

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