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So essentially I got the Codex and wanted to ask some simple questions to anyone who runs Space Wolves and can tell me, from experience, if these units have any use in an army list, or if another unit does it better.

Wolf Guard, base, not in Termie armor, is there any purpose to run a full unit with all Storm Shields and a mix of combi-plasma and combi-meltas over an 8 model unit of Wulfen for basically the same cost? They would be dropped in via Stormwolf, but I have no math as to which would survive longer, or do better taking out whatever was needed to be taken out.

Otherwise I was thinking about building an army styled around Leman Russ that uses 3 Predator tanks and various troops to support them/meat shield them along with Bjorn, Njal, a Ven Dread, Stormwolf, and a unit of Wulfen. I suppose my question would be, are the Predators worth using in a Space Wolf army, or is there another unit in the heavy slot that can do their job better? To clarify I was going to run them with the Predator Autocannon, Lasgun sponsons, and a Stormbolter.

CelticKodiak wrote:
So essentially I got the Codex and wanted to ask some simple questions to anyone who runs Space Wolves and can tell me, from experience, if these units have any use in an army list, or if another unit does it better.

Wolf Guard, base, not in Termie armor, is there any purpose to run a full unit with all Storm Shields and a mix of combi-plasma and combi-meltas over an 8 model unit of Wulfen for basically the same cost? They would be dropped in via Stormwolf, but I have no math as to which would survive longer, or do better taking out whatever was needed to be taken out.

Otherwise I was thinking about building an army styled around Leman Russ that uses 3 Predator tanks and various troops to support them/meat shield them along with Bjorn, Njal, a Ven Dread, Stormwolf, and a unit of Wulfen. I suppose my question would be, are the Predators worth using in a Space Wolf army, or is there another unit in the heavy slot that can do their job better? To clarify I was going to run them with the Predator Autocannon, Lasgun sponsons, and a Stormbolter.

I think lasgun sponsons on your Preds would be really ineffective. I'd recommend using lascannons instead.

Depends on your local meta and enviroment, but the short answer - no.

PA WG costs a lot and die quickly. Even with ss it's still 1w model that will dies on 1...2, 33% chance. And it will cost like ogryn. To drop anything from stormwolf you must survive 1 or 2 (depends on who goes first) rounds of shooting, and with such valuable guys inside that will never happen. It will goes down turn1 even against mediocre list. Then you will just have sad 3+ guys in open field, so the dead ones. Better drop them with jump packs right where you need them, but even then you probably want to keep them as cheap as possible (again, hight base cost, humble 1w), so better give them cheap stormbolter for decent shooting.

Tanks do not work for marines too, the only exception bigG gunlines.


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If you desperately want to run PA WG - try to make berserker cosplsyers:

10 guys, each with 2 chainswords (feth those pistols, but may grap a couple poweraxes for some heavy hitting), so you will have a model for reasonable price with ws2+ s4 4 atk base (5 with wulfen/wulfenstone). Didn't made it myself, yet, but sounds fun and this is the only way to make pa wg works.

Wolf guard on foot are good only in a single set up: chainsword and stormbolter. You get 17ppm with 2/4 S4 shots and 3 attacks at S4 (with WS2+ pretty much everytime). Buffed with wulfen or a character carrying the wulfen stone and arjac they become a very effective anti infantry tool. Embark them in the flyer or in another transport. Jump packs are a great solution as well.

Avoid combi weapons, just bring long fangs for that role.