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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/16 16:56:03
Subject: Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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We all know that that Chaos Daemons (including specific, named champions) exist in both 40K and AOS, while mortal champions of Chaos do not. But how about other Warp denizens from AOS? I'm asking because I'm currently using a Gaunt Summoner in lieu of a Thousand Sons Exalted Sorcerer (both due to a love of the Gaunt Summoner and the price of Exalted Sorcerers), and I'm thinking of maybe doing this with a Tzeentch Magister and possibly Vortemis the All-Seeing. I also am using a somewhat converted Khorgorath as a Chaos Spawn, with my personal canon being that one fell through the Warp and landed on a planet in the Eye of Terror, broken and brain damaged, and was adopted by one of the Khornate Daemon legions.
When it comes to the Gaunt Summoners, in many ways, they are like Daemon Princes, former mortals who technically were transformed in Daemons but who retained some aspects of their former selves. While there technically are only nine of them in existence and are bound to Archaon for the time being, I don't see why Tzeentch could not make other very similar beings in other universes (he loves the pattern of nine times nine), or that Tzeentchian magic could not create a very similar being to a Summoner. Nothing indicates to me that Magisters and Summoners, beasts similar to the Glottkin and Khorgorath, Daemonic Mounts of Slaanesh, and possibly even some specific characters like Sclya Anfingrimm and the Curseling, could not pass over into the 40K universe as well. The Warp is everchanging, indescribable, and has gates to many different realms, so having a Warp creature from AOS (not just a pure Daemon) in 40K strikes me as making sense. What do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/16 16:58:25
Subject: Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Some models carry directly over, others don't but would make good counts-as/conversions anyway. In general as long as the conversion/counts as is well made, fits the theme and is on the right base and not abusing size to get advantage then you should be totally fine.
And as its all GW products you'll be fine at events/shops as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/16 17:35:45
Subject: Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Norn Queen
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RaW you can use any Citadel Miniature to represent any datasheet, so it's perfectly fine so long as there are no House Rules to the contrary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/16 17:38:51
Subject: Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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In ye olden days the link between 40k and FB was much more overt, with, for example 40k weapons sometimes making their way to FB.
Nowadays it's much more subdued, and at best they could be considered a part of the same vague and loose multiverse of sorts, with similareties being more of a coinsidence that anything more.
But thats just GWs perspective, forge a narrative for yourself
I myself have some sigmarine Vanguard-Raptors serving as count-as 1k Sons obliterators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/17 02:32:55
Subject: Re:Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Thanks for the advice. By the way, I have my Summoner on a 40mm base, but the Exalted Sorcerers come on a 32 mm base. Now I'm pretty sure that the big issue when it comes to bases is that having a smaller base than usual is deemed as a way of cheating, so technically, I might actually be putting myself at an advantage, but still, should I change the base nevertheless?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/17 11:34:51
Subject: Re:Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ArcaneHorror wrote:Thanks for the advice. By the way, I have my Summoner on a 40mm base, but the Exalted Sorcerers come on a 32 mm base. Now I'm pretty sure that the big issue when it comes to bases is that having a smaller base than usual is deemed as a way of cheating, so technically, I might actually be putting myself at an advantage, but still, should I change the base nevertheless?
Right now because GW changed a lot of the base sizes there's a bit of a casual air about base size. However as time passes and once this base size mania has cleared the system I fully expect a steady top-down approach from competitions will enforce the new correct base sizes for players. It just helps make the game more fair for players when things are on the right base size.
There are companies out there which sell base extenders so you can change a base shape without having to fully rebase. Otherwise its going to future proof yourself to change bases now rather than leaving models on them and ending up having to do a big chunk of them all at once later
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/17 16:05:23
Subject: Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Personal opinion, that Korgoroth would be more appropriate as a Khorne Helbrute with two CC weapons than a Spawn. But to answer your question, the Daemons seem to be mostly it at the moment. Plus the Vortex Beast and Tzaangors being added. But those two additions make it VERY possible to continue adding things from AoS into 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/17 21:32:57
Subject: Re:Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Overread wrote: ArcaneHorror wrote:Thanks for the advice. By the way, I have my Summoner on a 40mm base, but the Exalted Sorcerers come on a 32 mm base. Now I'm pretty sure that the big issue when it comes to bases is that having a smaller base than usual is deemed as a way of cheating, so technically, I might actually be putting myself at an advantage, but still, should I change the base nevertheless?
Right now because GW changed a lot of the base sizes there's a bit of a casual air about base size. However as time passes and once this base size mania has cleared the system I fully expect a steady top-down approach from competitions will enforce the new correct base sizes for players. It just helps make the game more fair for players when things are on the right base size.
There are companies out there which sell base extenders so you can change a base shape without having to fully rebase. Otherwise its going to future proof yourself to change bases now rather than leaving models on them and ending up having to do a big chunk of them all at once later
Ok, thanks. I still have two issues. First, a Summoner on a 32 mm would barely fit and might look a bit awkward and might even be a bit wobbly (though I could probably make it work). Second, because of that, even though I'm technically trying to follow the rules, I'm worried that someone might think that I am trying to pull a fast with my bases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/18 09:04:14
Subject: Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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BaconCatBug wrote:RaW you can use any Citadel Miniature to represent any datasheet, so it's perfectly fine so long as there are no House Rules to the contrary.
Tell me more about this fallacy in yet another thread...
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/21 10:46:41
Subject: Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Probably. WHFB was hinted at being an isolated world in the 40k universe. There were hints about it, and they pretty much confirmed it in 7th ed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/11/27 13:21:55
Subject: Do AOS/FB Chaos creatures technically exist in 40K as well?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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JohnnyHell wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:RaW you can use any Citadel Miniature to represent any datasheet, so it's perfectly fine so long as there are no House Rules to the contrary.
Tell me more about this fallacy in yet another thread...
If you are referencing WYSIWYG, it does not exist in 8th as a written rule (to my knowledge, but im often wrong). So techincally he can do this. Is it a good idea to use a marine to represent a hel brute? Mostly no, it isnt a good idea. I myself have a gaunt sorc mini. I have run him both as a herald and as a exalted sorc on disc. No one has ever batted a eye about it.
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