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What derogatory comments did Reece make?

I'm not sure of "derogatory" but he has in the past said things like Necrons/GK will be good (he was one of the ones saying GK will be super happy with CA while the response seems to be more like "They threw us a bone"), and has been quickly proven wrong (although in his defense, he might be going off of future rules).

At the risk of going off-topic, I think Reece has committed the Cardinal Sin of "being a name to attack". Same thing happened with Ward, people like to be able to target a person with their negativity, so they will twist minor infractions into major problems. It's just how people work.

Wayniac wrote:
I'm not sure of "derogatory" but he has in the past said things like Necrons/GK will be good (he was one of the ones saying GK will be super happy with CA while the response seems to be more like "They threw us a bone"), and has been quickly proven wrong (although in his defense, he might be going off of future rules).

maybe he knows rules years in advanced. Maybe in 11 months there is going to be a new GK codex or rule book, and suddenly the 2018 CA makes eldar tier.


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 Trickstick wrote:

 SHUPPET wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
There are no absolutes in life or Chapter Approved, but go ahead and hate on Reese if it helps.

Honestly? After his derogatory statements towards GK players he deserves any bit of hate he gets.

This is an unbelievably ignorant comment, but I guess I should expect that by now.

The idea of Reece making "derogatory comments" would be like a kitten pulling a knife on you...

Well if someone tells the hungry to eat cake instead of bread, it is techniclly not derogatory, because there is nothing bad in eating cake. In fact most people love cakes. The "problem" ,and am assuming what other GK players think about this, is that he said that GK will get fixed by FAQ and CA, and when it didn't he just said people don't know how to play and gave examples of lists and units all GK are already using. Not everyone gets happy, just because things didn't get much worse. Some do, some don't care. From what I see from non GK players there are two groups of people a huge group of people who don't care and a small group saying that bad GK is good, because they were great in the past.

 SHUPPET wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
There are no absolutes in life or Chapter Approved, but go ahead and hate on Reese if it helps.

Honestly? After his derogatory statements towards GK players he deserves any bit of hate he gets.

This is an unbelievably ignorant comment, but I guess I should expect that by now.

You haven't an idea what he said, huh? He said the army was fine and that everyone was playing them wrong, and when we didn't have finalized Smite rules he said they shouldn't care.

That's pretty derogatory if you ask me. Do you want to defend him on his statements?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
You haven't an idea what he said, huh? He said the army was fine and that everyone was playing them wrong, and when we didn't have finalized Smite rules he said they shouldn't care.

That's pretty derogatory if you ask me. Do you want to defend him on his statements?

Without taking a side, that is not providing a quote. How do I know that you have accurately portrayed what was said? Context is key, after all.

I'm not sure what all the hate on Mr. Reese's pieces is about. I get that he does try to put a positive spin on stuff but I've also heard him say he didn't agree with some of the changes GW.

With a lot of people its that he made a successful comp system that others feel that they HAVE to use because its a standard, and its a mixture of hating having to use fan comp and also that a fan was able to get said fan comp semi official in the first place.

Pages of off topic banter later...

Huh, Cultists are the same ppm and role as Kroot Carnivores. Except kroot aren't taken all that much because the unit cost is higher than more synergistic elite infantry. Meanwhile cultists are still cheaper than CSM by 15ppu, daemonettes by 10ppu, bloodletters/horrors/plaguebearers by 20ppu, and nurglings by a mere 4ppu.

But Kroot have +1" move and a 7"vanguard, +1S in CC and ranged, +1WS, and can take 2 HQs for 90pts giving ld9 and pick 2 reroll 1s to hit if not moving, reroll advance, 6+++, or ignore 1 casualty in morale. That's a lot more getting on objectives and taking pot shots, plus some light means of durability for cheap battalion.

The daemon troop options have no ranged attacks so they don't sit back all that well and require a babysitter (60+pts) and 20+ models in a unit to work appropriately. Ofc them working is swarming over the opponent, slaughtering soft targets or tying heavy ones. the 5++ is better than 5+in cover tho. Overall too expensive for 3*10 battalion supporting csm unless you're going for a different unit anyways.

Cultists have stratagem access and higher max model count (a problematic combo). They've got ranged attacks and 70+pt hqs for spells or rerolls. Looks like cultists are overpriced but the only option for the role of obsec and potshots.

Conclusion: they do what GW wants each army to have, but can serve a 2nd undesired punchy role due to 40model unit cap. Bring back to 4ppm, remove VotLW, cap at 20-30 models. They'll be boring but do the job, can be phyched up for special occasions but shouldn't be.

Otherwise I'd like to have kroot chaos mercs! They'd do everything better without eating up the CP I brought them for.

 SHUPPET wrote:
Yeah. Let me guess, by 'derogatory comments', he means "waa he said something I dislike about GK from a balance perspective"

Karol wrote:
Well if someone tells the hungry to eat cake instead of bread, it is techniclly not derogatory, because there is nothing bad in eating cake. In fact most people love cakes. The "problem" ,and am assuming what other GK players think about this, is that he said that GK will get fixed by FAQ and CA, and when it didn't he just said people don't know how to play and gave examples of lists and units all GK are already using. Not everyone gets happy, just because things didn't get much worse. Some do, some don't care. From what I see from non GK players there are two groups of people a huge group of people who don't care and a small group saying that bad GK is good, because they were great in the past.

So basically "waaaaaaaaaaaa he said something I dislike, about GK, from a balance perspective".

?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
You haven't an idea what he said, huh? He said the army was fine and that everyone was playing them wrong, and when we didn't have finalized Smite rules he said they shouldn't care.

That's pretty derogatory if you ask me. Do you want to defend him on his statements?

1.) I don't have to defend a statement to realise that even with you recounting it in a manner to make it sound as bad as possible, that it's still not derogatory.

2.) Let's watch you never source this ever, but I'm sure that I'll see you posting about it again the next time you want to cry about Reece.

Reece doesn't make derogatory statements, his opinions on game balance are just unreliable at best and useless at worse whenever he's previewing something.

1. Reece is a salesman, its just his personality. Everything Is Awesome All the Time up until there's undeniable proof that it isn't.

2. Reece is a GW hype-man. Every time GW has a new product and they allow him to preview it, that's money in his pocket. Ergo he has a direct financial incentive to not bite the hand that feeds by having a negative outlook on whatever he's basically being paid to market.

None of that makes him a bad person or anything. But it does mean that you need to treat him the same way you'd treat any rumor-monger: you take what he says with a grain of salt and remain skeptical until you have the books in your hands.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
2. Reece is a shill. Every time GW has a new produxt

I've seen the word shill used incorrectly so much recently. You have to have an undisclosed relationship to be a shill! If you freely tell everyone that you are involved with a company, you can't be a shill for them.

Option B: Get overly offended and accuse him of derogatory statements across online 40k forums.



The guy's signature thing is not just arguing in defense of the weaker units in the game, but also playing them and doing well with them. God forbid that getting a points drop to every single unit in the dex would be enough to make him think GK would be doing alright.

 Trickstick wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
2. Reece is a shill. Every time GW has a new produxt

I've seen the word shill used incorrectly so much recently. You have to have an undisclosed relationship to be a shill! If you freely tell everyone that you are involved with a company, you can't be a shill for them.

Point taken. I'll edit in a more fitting term.

 SHUPPET wrote:

 SHUPPET wrote:
Yeah. Let me guess, by 'derogatory comments', he means "waa he said something I dislike about GK from a balance perspective"

Karol wrote:
Well if someone tells the hungry to eat cake instead of bread, it is techniclly not derogatory, because there is nothing bad in eating cake. In fact most people love cakes. The "problem" ,and am assuming what other GK players think about this, is that he said that GK will get fixed by FAQ and CA, and when it didn't he just said people don't know how to play and gave examples of lists and units all GK are already using. Not everyone gets happy, just because things didn't get much worse. Some do, some don't care. From what I see from non GK players there are two groups of people a huge group of people who don't care and a small group saying that bad GK is good, because they were great in the past.

So basically "waaaaaaaaaaaa he said something I dislike, about GK, from a balance perspective".

?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
You haven't an idea what he said, huh? He said the army was fine and that everyone was playing them wrong, and when we didn't have finalized Smite rules he said they shouldn't care.

That's pretty derogatory if you ask me. Do you want to defend him on his statements?

1.) I don't have to defend a statement to realise that even with you recounting it in a manner to make it sound as bad as possible, that it's still not derogatory.

2.) Let's watch you never source this ever, but I'm sure that I'll see you posting about it again the next time you want to cry about Reece.

I'll look for it again. This was during the proposed Smite nerf so this was a while ago.

Was it an article or an audio? I'll help look

 SHUPPET wrote:
Was it an article or an audio? I'll help look

It was an article. I wanna SAY it was on Frontline but I'm not sure.

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2018/05/03/guest-tactica-grey-knights-in-a-post-faq-world/


I feel like you were talking about this article here, but just taking great liberties in describing what was actually said. You may have played it up as much worse in your own mind then what was actually said.

No I remember there being a specific mention about Smite. I'll look for it again in a moment.