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2019/01/04 15:28:57
Subject: Summoning
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Given a list consisting solely of Chaos Space Marines, a Chaos Lord uses Daemonic Ritual to summon. Rolling on 3 dice, he gets a natural 18 (3 6s.)
What can he summon? Is he limited to units listed in Codex: Chaos Space Marines or can he summon units from Codex: Chaos Daemons as well?
I believe the answer is the later, but find myself unsure.
This happened to me in a game. While I had the dice to summon Skarbrand, my opponent objected based on the fact nothing else in my army came from C:CD. I settled for Bloodletters, but nothing in the rules say anything about which Codex the summoned unit has to come from. The wording says any Daemon with Daemonic Ritual.
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2019/01/04 15:41:40
Subject: Re:Summoning
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Dakka Veteran
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As far as I know, the only restrictions are that the summoned unit must have Daemonic Ritual and that it must be appropriate for the summoner's allegiance (if he has one).
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/01/04 15:43:34
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2019/01/04 15:54:14
Subject: Summoning
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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The above is correct. What book the datasheet is in is totally irrelevant. If it's has demonic ritual, the summoner has the correct keywords, and you roll high enough then you can summon it.
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2019/01/04 15:59:15
Subject: Summoning
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't have the Daemon Codex with me, but a pick look-up online shows me that Bloodthirsters are Daemons that have the Daemonic Ritual ability, and thus are eligible to be summoned. Nothing in the rule of Daemonic Ritual says that it has to be a daemon from that particular codex, just the Daemon Keyword, and have Daemonic Ritual special rule. This is why you can summon a Bloodthirster with a Chaos Lord, but not a unit of Obliterators.
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 Galef wrote:If you refuse to use rock, you will never beat scissors.
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2019/01/05 05:09:52
Subject: Summoning
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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As long as the summoning unit has the right keywords (CHAOS CHARACTER) and the summoned unit has the right keywords (DAEMONIC RITUAL), you're all good.
As an aside, the Daemonic Ritual rule is in the Daemons codex as well.
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2019/01/05 05:40:31
Subject: Summoning
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Skarbrand all the way down to bloodletters, wow.
He cheated.
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2019/01/06 13:48:44
Subject: Summoning
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Excited Doom Diver
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Well, he was wrong; there's no reason to assume he was cheating.
But yeah, anything with the Daemonic Ritual keyword is fair game for summoning, whether it's in Codex: Chaos Space Marines, Codex: Chaos Daemons, or a Forgeworld book.
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