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Carlovonsexron wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Oh my, if they actually release a version of the Deoderant Tank, this whole Rogue Trader nostalgia kick the studio's been on recently might be worthwhile afterall.

It's been worthwhile from the beginning for me- I love that they are finally doing something with one of the most interesting pieces of lore in the whole setting- but I will admit, a deodorant tank would be aces...

That's the thing, for just about everybody who started in 2nd Ed or later(ie, the vast majority), Rogue Trader wasn't really part of the setting at all, it was the old abandoned test version. Personally I think they're on a hiding to nothing, because trying to re-RT 40K at this stage will please almost nobody(in terms of people who actually care about lore that is, the "cool model" crowd will buy whatever is offered if it looks decent, and often even if it doesn't) - it'll never be RT enough for fans of RT, and injecting the RT-inspired "tacticool" stuff dilutes the grimdark.

It's probably worth pointing out that I came into "the hobby" far, far later than Rogue Trader and I'm in love with bringing back more Rogue Trader stuff. (I was lure din specifically by White Dwarf 300 and its awesome Custodes artwork and conversion guide)

I get that its not for everybody, but consumer culture is reactionary- in good times all the music is depressing, in bad times its all uplifting kind of thing.

Take it as a sign of the times as to how 40k skews nowadays, and if you want more grimdark, better hope things get better in the real world soon.

So that checks off:
The Book
The candle backpack
The Chaos Censers
and the Other book

fresh from b&c(sarges)

Edit: ... so far we missing the sorcerer and the havocs
... at this rate I'm not optimistic for new chosen :/

That guy swinging the skull censor can not be both pictures, the flames seem different (plus weird for GW to double up)

There could be two at either end of the chain. So it is possible

 Yodhrin wrote:

That's the thing, for just about everybody who started in 2nd Ed or later(ie, the vast majority), Rogue Trader wasn't really part of the setting at all, it was the old abandoned test version. Personally I think they're on a hiding to nothing, because trying to re-RT 40K at this stage will please almost nobody(in terms of people who actually care about lore that is, the "cool model" crowd will buy whatever is offered if it looks decent, and often even if it doesn't) - it'll never be RT enough for fans of RT, and injecting the RT-inspired "tacticool" stuff dilutes the grimdark.

I started during the 2nd edition, but the Rogue Trader callbacks work for me. I'd much rather have them search inspiration from the Rogue Trader than from the Black Library novels.

 Crimson wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

That's the thing, for just about everybody who started in 2nd Ed or later(ie, the vast majority), Rogue Trader wasn't really part of the setting at all, it was the old abandoned test version. Personally I think they're on a hiding to nothing, because trying to re-RT 40K at this stage will please almost nobody(in terms of people who actually care about lore that is, the "cool model" crowd will buy whatever is offered if it looks decent, and often even if it doesn't) - it'll never be RT enough for fans of RT, and injecting the RT-inspired "tacticool" stuff dilutes the grimdark.

I started during the 2nd edition, but the Rogue Trader callbacks work for me. I'd much rather have them search inspiration from the Rogue Trader than from the Black Library novels.

Bizarre. I genuinely don't get that, it's like preferring a Star Trek show that takes inspiration from Star Wars. The BL novels are of varying quality, but most of them fit thematically and tonally with the setting, while the RT stuff doesn't.

I like it because it helps introduce much needed nuance into the setting, and frankly, I'm more interested in the setting than the game itself .(as I honestly find the game itself rather tedious. I do love the minis though!)

"All war all the time" is a bit boring, as is "all grimdark no hope" kind of trope is equally boring, for me at least.

Some real genuine Human characters who can operate in something of a morally gray area without just being labeled as heretics is awesome. Having characters that are frankly much more relatable than a Post-Human war machine is awesome.

And that's before we talk about the models, which IMO, are.. awesome.

Guys, this is the rumour engine thread.

This guy solves at least 3 (book with candles, backpack, flaming skull)



EDIT: Boy am I late.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

EDIT: Boy am I late.

I hadn't seen that particular picture of him. Thanks.

I actually like these models.

I will propably like the new Dark Apostole with helmet.

Ok, so it only solves one of the skull censers. Wonder where the other one is?

Aren't they the same?

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Aren't they the same?

The flame seems to be coming off in different angles in the two rumor mill pictures. I guess it could be a separate piece, but why preview it twice? Probably is just something different.

When they showed that skull the second time there were lots of people crying “you’ve already shown this!”; cue flippant replies from the WHC team.

 Yodhrin wrote:

Bizarre. I genuinely don't get that, it's like preferring a Star Trek show that takes inspiration from Star Wars. The BL novels are of varying quality, but most of them fit thematically and tonally with the setting, while the RT stuff doesn't.

More like wanting a Star Trek series that takes its inspiration from the Original Series rather than JJ Abrams films. I think that at some point the theme of the setting got lost. It was satire, Imperium was evil, Space Marines were frankenstein monsters doing the bidding of corrupt elite. This may seem weird, but I think Primarchs were a mistake. Connecting Space Marines to the Emperor so closely was a mistake. And certainly making Primarchs heroic deities that rule the Imperium was a colossal mistake. Rogue Trader was more about human sized struggles in an absurd black comedy setting, instead of superhuman heroics of shining demigods, and I really miss that.


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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Aren't they the same?

They seem like the same bit to me, but of course it is impossible to be sure due the angle.

The Lord Executioner solves the stitched flesh rumor engine picture.

Is his axe one, too? Something about it reminds me of a pre-daemon engine rumor.


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So, what else we have left to reveal? One or two pics?

new from b&c (df)

could be a Slaanesh horn(musical kind)

Elf style Vuvuzela for Blood Bowl!

It looks like a Wood Elf(Wanderer) rune although it's weird seeing what looks like a metal horn with gems with their runework on it.

Yeah, I agree on the elvish design. The horn of the daemonettes and other slaanesh affiliated troops always look different.

The loopy swirl design is similar, though not identical, to the ones on those two chitinous things flying past a rock that we got teased a while back.

Clearly malerion's mob.

I reckon it's a Wanderers horn. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled the wanderers and sylvaneth together and released just an updated book and a character. The character would be called "The Caller of the Hunt" or something.

Marleymoo wrote:
I reckon it's a Wanderers horn. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled the wanderers and sylvaneth together and released just an updated book and a character. The character would be called "The Caller of the Hunt" or something.

This would be like putting Legions of Nagash and Tomb Kings of Khemri together.

Sylvaneth don't like Wanderers. They blame the Wanderers for the fall of the Realm of Life to Nurgle.