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I loved the Baron, but sadly got into Dark Eldar after he was already nixed from the codex. So I wanted to see if I came up with a fair version of him for 8th edition. Biggest concern is the Bones of the Farseer. But ultimately, he is a Succubus mounted on a skyboard.

Baron Sathonyx
HQ
95 pts / 5 pl

M 14”
WS 2+
BS 2+
T 3
S 3
W 4
A 5
Sv 5+
Ld 9

Wargear:
Custom Skyboard, Reaper Hellglaive, plasma grenades, phantasm grenade launcher

Custom Skyboard
This custom board is equipped with an extra set of anti-grav boosters that fire during his assaults. When Baron Sathonyx makes a successful charge, roll a d6 for each unit charged, on a 4+ that unit suffers a mortal wound.

The board is also mounted with a Splinter Pod
Assault 2, S* AP: 0 D: 1 (poisoned weapon, always wounds on a 4+ unless targeting vehicles in which case it wounds on a 6+)

Twilight Shroud
If an enemy unit targets any friendly Wych Cult Infantry or Biiker unit that is within 6” of Baron Sathonyx with a shooting attack, then the enemy unit receives a -1 to hit.

Daredevil
Baron Sathonyx has a 4+ Invulnerable save

Gang Leader
Friendly Hellion units within 6” of Baron Sathonyx can reroll all failed to-wound rolls in the fight phase.

Reaper Hellglaive
S: +3 Ap: -3 D: 2

Bones of the Farseer
Immediately after the roll to seize initiative is made, you may redeploy Baron Sathonyx and up to 3 units of Hellions anywhere within your deployment zone.

Power from Pain
Combat Drugs
Hit and Run

Keywords
Aeldari, Drukhari, Wych Cult, Fly, Infantry

The glaive should not be able to do 6 damage. That's Dreadnought CCW level of powerful.

In addition, I would limit the -1 to INFANTRY and BIKERS. Definitely don't let it apply to vehicles.

As JNA said the glaive should be D:d3 and the -1 to hit is too good on a character that can't be targeted, maybe only affect hrlions within range or maybe a single unit. Look to the price of the dark angel speeder that has the same aura and it only does that.

All good points. I suppose I was trying to increase the Hellglaive from the standard hellglaive which is a flat 2 damage. But just doing S+3 and ap-3 D2 would still be good.

Will fix to be D: 2 instead of 2d3.

Also good points on the -1 to hit. Because then it may stack with the venoms that already have such an ability. May be best to say "Friendly Wych <cult> infantry and biker units"

That would prevent his abilities from even further empowering coven units. Could you imagine a huge squad of grotesques with a 4+ invul and -1 to hit?

The main point for this unit is not only to bring back an awesome HQ unit, but to also make Hellions viable again.

They're good fixes, I'd happily play against him

Between Bones of the Farseer and the -1 to hit, he could probably use a points hike. He’d be fine with one or the other.

Thinking more about it, I realized that having multiple auras is really rare.

More realistic thing to do is probably the following

Baron Sathonyx
HQ
95 pts / 5 pl

M 14”
WS 2+
BS 2+
T 3
S 3
W 4
A 5
Sv 5+
Ld 9

Wargear:
Custom Skyboard, Reaper Hellglaive, plasma grenades, phantasm grenade launcher

Custom Skyboard
This custom board is equipped with an extra set of anti-grav boosters that fire during his assaults. When Baron Sathonyx makes a successful charge, roll a d6 for each unit charged, on a 4+ that unit suffers a mortal wound.

The board is also mounted with a Splinter Pod
Range: 18" Assault 2, S* AP: 0 D: 1 (poisoned weapon, always wounds on a 4+ unless targeting vehicles in which case it wounds on a 6+)

Twilight Shroud
If an enemy unit targets any friendly Wych Cult Infantry or Biiker unit that is within 6” of Baron Sathonyx with a shooting attack, then the enemy unit receives a -1 to hit.

Bones of the Farseer
Baron Sathonyx has a 4+ Invulnerable save

Reaper Hellglaive
S: +3 Ap: -3 D: 2

Power from Pain
Combat Drugs
Hit and Run

Faction Keywords: Aeldari, Drukhari, Wych <Cult>
Keywords: Fly, Infantry, Character, Jump Pack

 Icculus wrote:
Thinking more about it, I realized that having multiple auras is really rare.

More realistic thing to do is probably the following

Baron Sathonyx
HQ
95 pts / 5 pl

M 14”
WS 2+
BS 2+
T 3
S 3
W 4
A 5
Sv 5+
Ld 9

Wargear:
Custom Skyboard, Reaper Hellglaive, plasma grenades, phantasm grenade launcher

Custom Skyboard
This custom board is equipped with an extra set of anti-grav boosters that fire during his assaults. When Baron Sathonyx makes a successful charge, roll a d6 for each unit charged, on a 4+ that unit suffers a mortal wound.

The board is also mounted with a Splinter Pod
Range: 18" Assault 2, S* AP: 0 D: 1 (poisoned weapon, always wounds on a 4+ unless targeting vehicles in which case it wounds on a 6+)

Twilight Shroud
If an enemy unit targets any friendly Wych Cult Infantry or Biiker unit that is within 6” of Baron Sathonyx with a shooting attack, then the enemy unit receives a -1 to hit.

Bones of the Farseer
Baron Sathonyx has a 4+ Invulnerable save

Reaper Hellglaive
S: +3 Ap: -3 D: 2

Power from Pain
Combat Drugs
Hit and Run

Faction Keywords: Aeldari, Drukhari, Wych <Cult>
Keywords: Fly, Infantry, Character, Jump Pack

This seems reasonable, and I'd definitely play against it. One thing that sticks out at me is the mutable Wych Cult keyword though. IIRC, the baron was/is an archon rather than a succubus. He has an affinity for hellions (possibly largely due to his time on the lamb), but he isn't really a succubus. Additionally, giving him a floating Wych Cult keyword means you can opt to give him red grief, cursed blade, or cult of strife benefits. I'm not aware of any other special character that can change chapter tactics between lists. Would it make more sense to simply not give him a Wych Cult keyword and add his to the list of units that don't take away your chapter tactics? Like Drazhar. He's obviously comfortable with a very specific wych unit (hellions), and he can reasonably hang out with kabalites given that he is/was an archon.

Also, it has always bugged me that 8e hellions can't deepstrike. They're fragility, combined with power from pain would make them a fantastic unit to deepstrike. It would let them pounce on the enemy semi-reliably without bleeding points on the way across the table. It would help distinguish them from carbine scourges. It just makes sense for the unit whose whole gimmick is ambushing enemies from above. So as you're doing the hellion special character, perhaps this would be an opportunity to consider introducing some deepstriking hellion rules? Maybe a stratagem to the effect of...

CRIMSON RAIN (1CP or 3CP)
Use this stratagem during deployment. You may deepstrike Baron Sathonyx and one unit of hellions instead of deploying them normally. If you pay 3CP, you may deepstrike the baron and three units of hellions instead. This stratagem may only be used once per game.

It doesn't interfere with Webway Assault (strike? ambush?) or Screaming Jets and lets you deepstrike very specific units relatively cost-effectively.

 Icculus wrote:
Thinking more about it, I realized that having multiple auras is really rare.

More realistic thing to do is probably the following

Baron Sathonyx
HQ
95 pts / 5 pl

M 14”
WS 2+
BS 2+
T 3
S 3
W 4
A 5
Sv 5+
Ld 9

Wargear:
Custom Skyboard, Reaper Hellglaive, plasma grenades, phantasm grenade launcher

Custom Skyboard
This custom board is equipped with an extra set of anti-grav boosters that fire during his assaults. When Baron Sathonyx makes a successful charge, roll a d6 for each unit charged, on a 4+ that unit suffers a mortal wound.

The board is also mounted with a Splinter Pod
Range: 18" Assault 2, S* AP: 0 D: 1 (poisoned weapon, always wounds on a 4+ unless targeting vehicles in which case it wounds on a 6+)

Twilight Shroud
If an enemy unit targets any friendly Wych Cult Infantry or Biiker unit that is within 6” of Baron Sathonyx with a shooting attack, then the enemy unit receives a -1 to hit.

Bones of the Farseer
Baron Sathonyx has a 4+ Invulnerable save

Reaper Hellglaive
S: +3 Ap: -3 D: 2

Power from Pain
Combat Drugs
Hit and Run

Faction Keywords: Aeldari, Drukhari, Wych <Cult>
Keywords: Fly, Infantry, Character, Jump Pack

I'd give him back the Hellion specific gang leader aura, if you felt it was a bit much perhaps make it re-roll 1's to wound instead of flat re-roll wounds. Makes him a bit more hellion specific.

Okay so we do this:
Baron Sathonyx
HQ
95 pts / 5 PL
M 14”
WS 2+
BS 2+
T 3
S 3
W 4
A 5
Sv 5+
Ld 9

Wargear:
Custom Skyboard, Reaper Hellglaive, plasma grenades, phantasm grenade launcher

Custom Skyboard
This custom board is equipped with an extra set of anti-grav boosters that fire during his assaults. When Baron Sathonyx charges a unit, roll a d6, on a 4+ that unit suffers a mortal wound.
The board is also mounted with a Splinter Pod
18” Assault 2, S* AP: 0 D: 1 (poisoned weapon, always wounds on a 4+ unless targeting vehicles in which case it wounds on a 6+)
Twilight Shroud
If an enemy unit targets any friendly Hellion units within 6” of Baron Sathonyx with a shooting attack, then the enemy unit receives a -1 to hit.
Hellion Kingpin
Friendly Hellion units within 6” of Baron Sathonyx can reroll to-wound rolls of 1 in the fight phase.
Reaper Hellglaive
S: +3 Ap: -3 D: 2
Bones of the Farseer
Baron Sathonyx has a 4+ invulnerable save

Power from Pain
Combat Drugs
Hit and Run
Keywords: Aeldari, Drukhari, Kabal <Slashed Eye>, Fly, Infantry, Hellion

Then we move on to the new Kabal Obsession:

Kabal of the Slashed Eye
The Kabal of the slashed eye is known for the control of Port Carmine, one of the largest and most elite ports in Cammoragh. Their fleets and ships are second to none.

Units with the Kabal <Slashed Eye> key word that can Fly always advance 6" when they advance instead of rolling. In addition, these units do not suffer a penalty to hit with their assault weapons in a turn in which they advanced.
Units of Hellions may be taken in a Kabal <Slashed Eye> detachment. If they are, they lose the Wych <cult> keyword and instead gain the Kabal <Slashed Eye> keyword.

That sub faction tactic grants 3 things. That’s almost unheard of. You might want to pick one or the other.

 evil_kiwi_60 wrote:
That sub faction tactic grants 3 things. That’s almost unheard of. You might want to pick one or the other.

By my count, they get two-auto advance 6" and shoot Assault weapons after advancing without penalties.

Well I suppose they get 3 if you count the Hellions thing. But really moving Hellions from Wych to Kabal, they are also losing things. They wouldnt get any succubus buffs, or any of the Wych Cult obsessions.

Plus, I was trying to make it similar to the Soaring Spite rules.

 Icculus wrote:
Okay so we do this:
Baron Sathonyx
HQ
95 pts / 5 PL
M 14”
WS 2+
BS 2+
T 3
S 3
W 4
A 5
Sv 5+
Ld 9

Wargear:
Custom Skyboard, Reaper Hellglaive, plasma grenades, phantasm grenade launcher

Custom Skyboard
This custom board is equipped with an extra set of anti-grav boosters that fire during his assaults. When Baron Sathonyx charges a unit, roll a d6, on a 4+ that unit suffers a mortal wound.
The board is also mounted with a Splinter Pod
18” Assault 2, S* AP: 0 D: 1 (poisoned weapon, always wounds on a 4+ unless targeting vehicles in which case it wounds on a 6+)
Twilight Shroud
If an enemy unit targets any friendly Hellion units within 6” of Baron Sathonyx with a shooting attack, then the enemy unit receives a -1 to hit.
Hellion Kingpin
Friendly Hellion units within 6” of Baron Sathonyx can reroll to-wound rolls of 1 in the fight phase.
Reaper Hellglaive
S: +3 Ap: -3 D: 2
Bones of the Farseer
Baron Sathonyx has a 4+ invulnerable save

Power from Pain
Combat Drugs
Hit and Run
Keywords: Aeldari, Drukhari, Kabal <Slashed Eye>, Fly, Infantry, Hellion

Then we move on to the new Kabal Obsession:

Kabal of the Slashed Eye
The Kabal of the slashed eye is known for the control of Port Carmine, one of the largest and most elite ports in Cammoragh. Their fleets and ships are second to none.

Units with the Kabal <Slashed Eye> key word that can Fly always advance 6" when they advance instead of rolling. In addition, these units do not suffer a penalty to hit with their assault weapons in a turn in which they advanced.
Units of Hellions may be taken in a Kabal <Slashed Eye> detachment. If they are, they lose the Wych <cult> keyword and instead gain the Kabal <Slashed Eye> keyword.

I like this a lot! Cheap enough to slot into an army easily, but not so cheap as to become the new go-to HQ tax. Killy enough to be respectable, but not all that killy. Good support buffs for his hellion pals.If I were to cheese the Slahed Eye obsession, I'd probably do something like blaster spam loaded up in transports, but that's... that's just kind of a slightly speedier normal dark eldar list. I'd totally play with/against this.

Admittedly blaster spam does already happen but this makes it even better. The ability is good without being broken on the hellions, but with some other units it gets a little over bearing.

 evil_kiwi_60 wrote:
Admittedly blaster spam does already happen but this makes it even better. The ability is good without being broken on the hellions, but with some other units it gets a little over bearing.

Which units specifically? Obsidian Rose already grants bonus range to kabal units, and it doesn't require you put yourself 6" closer to the enemy's guns to do so.