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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 17:29:01
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Besides Deathwatch (and maybe GKs), is there any Chapter or lore that supports a Chapter recruiting form other chapter?
Possibly even letting those recruits keep their original armour color?
I ask because I am starting a DW army, but already have Bikes, terminators and other various Marines from just about every other Chapter.
I like to hold off on getting new models to make into DW for as long a possible. At least for the Termies and Bikes
Alternatively, Are there any situations in which DW would allow their recruits to keep their existing colors rather than have them paint it black?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 17:46:19
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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The Legion Host is the only real example of this I can think of, and it was chaos. It was led by Thagus Daravek, a Death Guard sorcerer and direct rival to Abaddon. Unlike the Black Legion, which brought in other marines and mixed them into a cohesive Black-painted army, the Legion Host wanted each marine to be proud of their origin and show their original colors.
Never happened on the Imperium side, and doing so would be considered heretical.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 17:51:02
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Not exactly what you're after, but there was some really old fluff about Marine Crusade forces. Basically (IIRC) a Crusade would be called and all 'local' Chapters were expected to send troops, but some would only send a Combat Squad whereas others would commit Company strength forces. All the Marines in the Crusade force would act in a unified manner.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 17:51:56
Subject: Re:Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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You could maybe fluff it as former DW vets that returned to their chapter but are now being called on to assist the DW in a temporary time of need. Would explain why they are in their chapter colors instead of being black, although many tend to keep the silver arm and shoulder after returning so you would have to decide if you wanted to convert some arms or just say they did not bother with keeping the silver.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 18:09:09
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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beast_gts wrote:Not exactly what you're after, but there was some really old fluff about Marine Crusade forces. Basically ( IIRC) a Crusade would be called and all 'local' Chapters were expected to send troops, but some would only send a Combat Squad whereas others would commit Company strength forces. All the Marines in the Crusade force would act in a unified manner.
Oh! This reminds me of Astartes organizations. Entities like the Maelstrom Warders, the Astartes Praeses, the Pentarchy of Blood, and the Sentinels of the Veil were all groups of chapters operating towards a single goal, usually with a joint insignia that most marines in the chapters would show.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 18:14:57
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Exorcists definitely funnel some of their own into the GKs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 18:45:31
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd like a source for this. As for recruiting from other chapters, I do remember reading material of chapters loaning forces to other chapters of the same geneseed but staying permanently would probably be a rare thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 19:01:38
Subject: Re:Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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Spoiler for Spear of the Emperor ahead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 19:13:17
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Thanx for the feedback. I'd like to have my new models painted black and silver with some gold bits, but without the "each member is from it's own Chapter"
I'd kinda like to come up with my own lore for a Chapter that is "officially" an UM Successor, but in all actuality was originally a Loyalist group of Alpha Legion. Their insignia will be the Omega symbol (i.e. the UM icon upside down) on a field of metallic blue-green.
Game-wise they will count as DW, but I'd like to add some lore that allows them to recruit from existing chapters to supplement their Terminators & Bikers. So thanx again for all the precedence
Also, they will be "lead" but Custodes Shield Captains painting in the same scheme. Maybe they could be little know survivors of the great crusade era?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 19:37:10
Subject: Re:Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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The loyalist Alpha Legion angle works really well for what you are going for. They would be able to potentially recruit exceptional candidates from other chapters in a discrete manner, and they also could be an option that other chapters can send their "problem child" Astartes to, just like how some chapters currently use the Deathwatch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 19:52:23
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Cool Thanx! I like having some unique models, but overall I want the "true" Omega Marines to have the same scheme. I could also say that they obtain so much of their wargear "in a discrete manner" which is why they have the same gear options as DW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/05 21:37:45
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Morphing Obliterator
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HoundsofDemos wrote:
I'd like a source for this. As for recruiting from other chapters, I do remember reading material of chapters loaning forces to other chapters of the same geneseed but staying permanently would probably be a rare thing.
Codex Grey Knights 5th Edition
They send them psychic recruits.
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Playing mostly Necromunda and Battletech, Malifaux is awesome too! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 13:37:44
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Somerdale, NJ, USA
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I'm doing almost the exact opposite of this; going off on the angle that the Alpha Legion could be loyal or traitor.
I'm starting an Alpha Legion 40K force that contains recalled Alpha Legion agents from other chapters/legions. I plan on it with the possibility of being played as either Imperial or CSM.
So for example:
Tactical/CSM Squad 1
3 "Chaos" Alpha Legion marines (spikes and points)
2 "Imperial" (or pre-heresy painted) Alpha Legion marines (mk6, mk7 & mk8 armor)
1 painted as a Dark Angel
1 painted as an Ultramarine
1 Plasma gunner painted as an Iron Warrior
1 Missile Launcher painted as a Mantis Warrior
Led by a Sgt. painted as a World Eater
Tactical/CSM Squad 2
3 "Chaos" Alpha Legion marine (spikes and points)
1 "Chaos" Plasma gunner AL marine
1 "Imperial" (or pre-heresy painted) Alpha Legion marines (mk6, mk7 & mk8 armor)
1 painted as a Space Wolf Grey Hunter
1 painted as an Imperial Fist
1 painted as an Flesh Tearer
1 Missile Launcher painted as a Night Lord
Led by a Sgt. painted as an "Imperial" (or pre-heresy) Alpha Legion
The unifying factors will be:
* each model is unhelmed (helm attached to model though)
* all heads are bald (as a proper AL should be) & their faces will be painted exactly the same
* their "chapter/legion" shoulder pads (if not painted as AL) are shrouded with a cloth or leather covering with the Alpha Legion symbol on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 15:50:13
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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What do you guys think of called the Chapter the "Omega Hammers" Omega - Opposite of Alpha and the symbol is an upside down UM symbol Hammers - all the shields and several shoulder pads are from Stormcast Eternals with their lightning hammer embossed on them. I will also have plenty of Thunder hammers and axes in my list, so it fits there too. Eventually, I will probably splurge for 3 Termie models and 2 Bikes (since that is all my list has right now) But for now, I'll keep using my Deathwing/BloodAngel/GK Terminators and WhiteScar/Ravenwing Bikes as "enlisted" from their Chapters. -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 15:59:21
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Somerdale, NJ, USA
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Nothing wrong with that and clever use of existing GW product to boot
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"The only problem with your genepool is that there wasn't a lifeguard on duty to prevent you from swimming."
"You either die a Morty, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Rick."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 19:10:56
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Thanx. Anyone have any lore suggestion to explain the books on the GK shoulder pads? I could just cut them off, but that would be 20 pads for me and no guarantee that I could get the surfaces consistently smooth and prepped for a transfer.
I may to it anyway, but if I can avoid it because of a good fluff reason, I'd like too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 19:40:04
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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Galef wrote:Thanx. Anyone have any lore suggestion to explain the books on the GK shoulder pads? I could just cut them off, but that would be 20 pads for me and no guarantee that I could get the surfaces consistently smooth and prepped for a transfer.
I may to it anyway, but if I can avoid it because of a good fluff reason, I'd like too.
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Could signify that they have advanced to some sort of elite inner circle within the chapter, or something along those lines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 20:04:38
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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The more I think about it, the more I think it's needed to shave off those books to make room for the Omega symbol. It'll be a lot of work, but will condense the iconography to just Omegas and Hammers. Plus, the Stormcasts have a blank left shoulder, so it would further unify the aesthetic if all but the Characters have Omegas on their left shoulder. I'll leave the books on the Character though. The "inner circle" idea is pretty good, but not for the majority on models of my army. And actually, the "secret" that the inner circle could know is that they aren't UM successors as the rest of the Chapter and wider Imperium believes, but descendants of Loyalist Alpha Legionnaires. And that could also be a reason to recruit from other chapters, so they can "hide" the Alpharius geneseed whenever a geneseed tithe is requested for a purity check. There are a enough with Guilliman's geneseed mixed into the Chapter, but most have AL geneseed. -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 20:09:48
Subject: Re:Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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Yeah, having the majority of the force being in an inner circle would be a bit of a stretch, so going your mentioned route would be more sensible. Great idea for the "inner circle secret" as well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 20:34:58
Subject: Re:Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Technically it was your idea, so thanx! As soon as you mentioned inner circle, I immediately thought of Dark Angels, who hide the secret of the Fallen and wear robes to show their shame. The Omega Hammers would be similar, save that they aren't necessarily ashamed of their heritage, but obviously cannot share it with the wider Imperium. In true Alpha Legion fashion, they are using sneaky tactics to infiltrate other Chapters to acquire better wargear so they can exact revenge on their Traitorous Brothers. And they also hate Xenos for....reason? -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 20:40:59
Subject: Re:Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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Yeah, the inner circle idea totally was inspired by the Dark Angels. Maybe the Xenos hate comes from the inner circle believing that Xenos were responsible for the rest of the Alpha Legion going traitor due to allying with the Cabal during the Heresy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/06 20:44:29
Subject: Re:Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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ikeulhu wrote:Maybe the Xenos hate comes from the inner circle believing that Xenos were responsible for the rest of the Alpha Legion going traitor due to allying with the Cabal during the Heresy.
DING! DING! We have a winner!
Brilliant
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/08 00:24:18
Subject: Space Marine Chapter that recruits from other chapters
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Well I'm doing a fan chapter that recuits from finding lost astarties in the warp. So they paint ther armour black/gray but keep details like iron hands, imperle and crimson fists keep ther hands og chapter colour, every one keeps odd side gear and details form ther old lives.
But sadly the children of the void are insane mad lads who's one and only ship dosnt even have a navigator as they actually think the emporer is moving them to wher ther needed as they sail bildly trough the warp.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/770420.page
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