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What to change if anything?


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Deathwatch) [94 PL, 1096pts] ++

+ HQ +

Watch Captain [7 PL, 106pts]: Jump Pack, Relic blade, Storm Bolter, The Beacon Angelis

Watch Master [7 PL, 130pts]: Lord of Hidden Knowledge, Tome of the Ectoclades, Warlord

+ Troops +

Veterans [20 PL, 215pts]
. Black Shield: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Terminator
. . Power Fist and Stormbolter: Power fist, Storm Bolter
. Vanguard Veteran: Bolt Pistol And Chainsword
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Watch Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield

Veterans [20 PL, 215pts]
. Black Shield: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Terminator
. . Power Fist and Stormbolter: Power fist, Storm Bolter
. Vanguard Veteran: Bolt Pistol And Chainsword
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Watch Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield

Veterans [20 PL, 215pts]
. Black Shield: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Terminator
. . Power Fist and Stormbolter: Power fist, Storm Bolter
. Vanguard Veteran: Bolt Pistol And Chainsword
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Watch Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield

Veterans [20 PL, 215pts]
. Black Shield: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Terminator
. . Power Fist and Stormbolter: Power fist, Storm Bolter
. Vanguard Veteran: Bolt Pistol And Chainsword
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Veteran: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield
. Watch Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm Bolter, Storm shield

++ Total: [94 PL, 1096pts] ++

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++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [25 PL, 379pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

+ HQ +

Knight Commander Pask [13 PL, 219pts]: Lascannon
. Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

++ Total: [25 PL, 379pts] ++

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++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [25 PL, 523pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Household Choice: House Krast, Questor Mechanicus

+ Lord of War +

Knight Crusader [25 PL, 523pts]: Heavy Stubber, Heirloom (Krast): The Headsman's Mark, Stormspear Rocket Pod
. Avenger Gatling Cannon w/ Heavy Flamer: Avenger Gatling Cannon, Heavy Flamer
. Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon w/ Heavy Stubber: Heavy Stubber, Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon

++ Total: [25 PL, 523pts] ++

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1998

13CP

The Deathwatch stuff looks all good although I'm not sure you need 4 squads of vets.

You also need a second HQ in guard battalion.

I think you're going to struggle against strong psychic, tsons, craftworlds, gsc etc.

If i was going to build the list I'd go for 3x5 black templar scouts for screening and psychic defense strat.

Finally there's a reason everyone takes the castellan. It's just ridiculously better than the crusader for a few extra points.

Maybe this is a little better....

**DEATHWATCH BATTALLION**

HQ
(W)Watch Master
-Lore of Hidden knowledge
-Tome of the Ectoclades
Watch Captain
-Thunder Hammer
-Storm Shield
-Jump Pack
Terminator Librarian
-Force Stave
-Storm Bolter

TROOPS
Veterans
-Black Shield w/SB,SS, Chainsword
-Vanguard w/Chainsword, BP
-Terminator w/SB, PF
-7xVet w/SB,SS,Chainsword
Veterans
-Black Shield w/SB,SS, Chainsword
-Vanguard w/Chainsword, BP
-Terminator w/SB, PF
-7xVet w/SB,SS,Chainsword
Veterans
-Black Shield w/SB,SS, Chainsword
-Vanguard w/Chainsword, BP
-Terminator w/SB, PF
-7xVet w/SB,SS,Chainsword

**ASTRA MILITARUM BATTALION**

HQ
Knight Commander Pask
-Battle Cannon
-Las Cannon
-Hunter Killer Missle
Company Commander
-Plasma Pistol
-Chainsword

TROOPS
Infantry Squad
-9 Troopers
-Sergeant
Infantry Squad
-9 Troopers
-Sergeant
Infantry Squad
-9 Troopers
-Sergeant
Infantry Squad
-9 Troopers
-Sergeant
Infantry Squad
-9 Troopers
-Sergeant

**KNIGHT AUXILIARY DETACHMENT**

Knight Crusader
-Rapid Fire Battle-Cannon w/HS
-Avenger Gatling Cannon w/HF
-Stormspear Rocket Pod
-Shoulder HS

Total Points: 2000
CP: 13

All of your veterans and black shields are illegal, you have 3 pieces of equipment on each, they can only have 2. Also for your Relic the Angelus Beacon is generally better, throw it on your smash cap so you can zip a unit around. I'm usually putting a bike with Homer in all my squads too, allows for charge after falling back and teleport tricks. You can also ask yourself if you really need 8 storm shields in each unit (answer: you don't), 5 is usually plenty so you can trim some points and get some chainswords in there. Also can downgrade the Termies to swords or Mauls so trim some points too.


Other than that it's nearly identical to the list Stephen Box made popular after winning the GW Grand Tournament, so at least it's tested and proven to work.

Aside from the illegal gear loadout, lose the chainsword on the VanVets. Go with either two bolt pistols or a pistol and a storm shield. A second SIA shot is far more valuable than a single S4 AP0 melee attack.

I'm personally a huge fan of the Book of Shootius Maximus. The Beacon has its place, especially in a list with no teleport homers. Drop a CP to get both.

Sterling191 wrote:
I'm personally a huge fan of the Book of Shootius Maximus. The Beacon has its place, especially in a list with no teleport homers. Drop a CP to get both.

I fell like the Tome is a great tool, but the Beacon has more fun applications. For me, the Beacon is the "must take" and the Tome is only added in more competitive games via -1CP.
I like the idea of hiding a Vet squad with Frag Cannons somewhere out of LoS, them move a Jump Capt up to use the Beacon to place them within 12" of some big target, instantly getting that half range on the shell mode.

That's a substantial range boost. 12" move from the Capt, 6" within the Beacon, the 12" range. You shouldn't have any issues getting in a good position for some heavy dakka.
Add some SS/SB Vets and that is an intimidating unit in your face Turn 1 (or turn 2 if you drop the Capt in).

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