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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/26 01:59:54
Subject: Hellforged Dreadnaughts - best legion?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm looking to pick up some Deredeo's (butcher cannon array of course) but wanted to know from a purely competitive standpoint which legion is considered the strongest for these units right now? They are Helbrutes and each legion offers a different advantage. I know other factors weigh in like the rest of your list but wanted to discuss these in a vacuum just to look at the potential of each.
I think the top 3 would be Alpha legion, 1k Sons and DG.
Alpha legion gives you the -1 to hit outside of 12"
DG allows you to move and shoot with no penalty and gives you the auto-blow up strat (situationaly useful).
1k Sons allows you to buff them with various spells (-1 hit, +1 invuln, heal d3 damage)
Are there any legions that would benefit this unit that I am missing? Also - what tactics are useful with these on the table? Would love to hear some feedback and tactics from the people using them now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/26 02:31:37
Subject: Hellforged Dreadnaughts - best legion?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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World Eaters and Black Legion both have a model which provides a full re-roll on hit rolls, instead of just re-rolling 1s, which can become relevant as the dreadnought's statline degrades.
DG and TSons cannot bring Warpsmiths, which may impact list-building.
Additionally, any Tzeentch-marked dreadnought can be affected by +1 invulnerable save, so that isn't really a point in favour for TSons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/26 03:36:48
Subject: Hellforged Dreadnaughts - best legion?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Iron Warriors ignore cover, for what it's worth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/26 03:46:04
Subject: Hellforged Dreadnaughts - best legion?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ignoring cover is pretty significant if your going with butcher array as it's only -1. Definitely an option to consider.
MinMax - I never thought about warpsmiths too much as I don't play CSM (I do play Sons and DG). I'm thinking to expand more into CSM with the new models coming though. Does CSM have any strategems that work with Deredeo's?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/26 04:10:29
Subject: Hellforged Dreadnaughts - best legion?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Is your Dread shooting a lot? Is it being shot at a lot?
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/26 05:12:13
Subject: Hellforged Dreadnaughts - best legion?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Not really competitive but if you give them butcher cannons they can synergize well with night lords for morale bomb.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/26 12:06:04
Subject: Hellforged Dreadnaughts - best legion?
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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tournament tested and overall the best are DG deredeos, in actual meta state move and shoot with no penalties is strong. Just made yesterday a 1st place in ETC with a list with 3 deredeos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/26 13:43:39
Subject: Hellforged Dreadnaughts - best legion?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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blackmage wrote:tournament tested and overall the best are DG deredeos, in actual meta state move and shoot with no penalties is strong. Just made yesterday a 1st place in ETC with a list with 3 deredeos.
What was the rest of your list if you don't mind me asking? As good as Deredeo's are I'm not sure how they do versus the typical Castellan build your sure to see in a tourney.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/02/26 17:55:29
Subject: Hellforged Dreadnaughts - best legion?
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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my list was
demons battalion
sloppity
scrivener
2x27 plaguebearers icon+instrument
25 bloodletters icon+instrument
DG spearhead
3 deredeos with missiles and butcher
3 Pbc
Dp warlord arch contaminator plate double talons and wings
i faced
Tyr 60 geno broodlord swarmy OOE and so on
Deathwatch+Ik lot of firepower but poor of troops
Ig vigilus wivern 9 mortars 4 LR 70 guardsmen 3 scout sentinels
won 17-3 20-0 and 10-10 with Ig but i played really bad i make couple of mistakes costed me victory, without those mistakes i could pull at least a 12-8
Just a note i play in ETC not ITC is a different format, we play pure CA 2018 missions heavily rely on objective and troops
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3rd place league tournament
03-18-2018
2nd place league tournament
06-12-2018
3rd place league
tournament
12-09-2018
3rd place league tournament
01-13-2019
1st place league tournament
01-27-2019
1st place league
tournament
02-25-2019 |
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