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Hail traitors

I’m working on a brigade of renegades and was wondering if I may get some advice.

I know it’s over pointed just looking at the brigade atm.
I can also add in a Valkyrie and ogryns and malificent lords ect and I’m also wondering if I should make the tanks demolishers. The troops job is to move up and screen my good units and take objectives. I am also considering giving out Vox casters to the militia and command squads.
But I am trying to leave room for a detachment that can actually use the cp generated (aka deamons or deathguard) which I included in the list for a better view.
I don’t have chaos spawn so i will try and convert some if anyone has advice on that also welcome


++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Daemons) [26 PL, 479pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

Detachment CP

+ HQ +

Horticulus Slimux [9 PL, 165pts]

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [8 PL, 140pts]: 19x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

+ Fast Attack +

Plague Drones [6 PL, 120pts]: 2x Plague Drone, Plaguebringer

++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [81 PL, 1200pts, 15CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [12CP]

+ HQ +

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 34pts]: Bolt pistol, Power fist

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Brutal Assault weapon, Lasgun

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Brutal Assault weapon, Lasgun

+ Troops +

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 3x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 3x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 3x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [36 PL, 646pts, 5CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Malignant Plaguecaster [6 PL, 110pts]: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 5. Putrescent Vitality

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: 4. Blades of Putrefaction

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 52pts]
. 8x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Chaos Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Plague Marines [7 PL, 91pts]
. Plague Champion
. . Codex: Boltgun, Plague knife
. 3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Poxwalkers [3 PL, 60pts]: 10x Poxwalker

+ Fast Attack +

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

++ Total: [143 PL, 2325pts, 20CP] ++

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++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Daemons) [26 PL, 529pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

Detachment CP

+ HQ +

Horticulus Slimux [9 PL, 165pts]: Warlord

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [8 PL, 165pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 19x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

+ Fast Attack +

Plague Drones [6 PL, 145pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 2x Plague Drone, Plaguebringer

++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [81 PL, 1268pts, 15CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [12CP]

+ HQ +

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 34pts]: Bolt pistol, Power fist

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 33pts]: Laspistol, Power fist

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Brutal Assault weapon, Lasgun

+ Troops +

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster
. 8x Renegade Militia with Laspistol & Brutal Assault Weapon

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster
. 8x Renegade Militia with Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster
. 8x Renegade Militia with Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster
. 8x Renegade Militia with Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster
. 8x Renegade Militia with Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Lasgun, Vox-caster
. 8x Renegade Militia with Autogun

+ Elites +

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 55pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple w/ Command Vox Net: Command vox net, Lasgun
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 2x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 55pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple w/ Command Vox Net: Command vox net, Lasgun
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 2x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 55pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple w/ Command Vox Net: Command vox net, Lasgun
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 2x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

++ Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Servants of the Abyss) [11 PL, 202pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Rogue Psyker [2 PL, 30pts]

+ HQ +

Obsidius Mallex [5 PL, 102pts]

+ Troops +

Traitor Guardsmen [2 PL, 35pts]

Traitor Guardsmen [2 PL, 35pts]

++ Total: [118 PL, 1999pts, 15CP] ++

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Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

Meeh if certain leaks are true we will get something from gw, that said spiky traitor guard whilest it should be an option should however not be the rule, as in R&H encomapsses more.

@ khellendros, greenstuff, kitbashes and ( anvil industry) .

Btw ulfhendrir, looks decent, don't forget that the champion of militia has bs 4+

Not Online!!! wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

Meeh if certain leaks are true we will get something from gw, that said spiky traitor guard whilest it should be an option should however not be the rule, as in R&H encomapsses more.

@ khellendros, greenstuff, kitbashes and ( anvil industry) .

Btw ulfhendrir, looks decent, don't forget that the champion of militia has bs 4+

Which leaks were those about a gw list?
We definitely need the stuff from servants of the abyss as well
Thanks bro
I do keep forgetting the champions lol

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

I'm not explaining myself right. I just know basics from 40k, far from an expert.

You use troops from a roster/codex called "renegades&heretics" which seem to be something close to astra militarum: 25 points characters, cheap troops, leman russ tanks... As a chaos player (1ksons and tzeentch daemons) I don't know what codex or rules allow you to play that units, and where can I find their stats, point cost, rules...

Khellendr0s wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

I'm not explaining myself right. I just know basics from 40k, far from an expert.

You use troops from a roster/codex called "renegades&heretics" which seem to be something close to astra militarum: 25 points characters, cheap troops, leman russ tanks... As a chaos player (1ksons and tzeentch daemons) I don't know what codex or rules allow you to play that units, and where can I find their stats, point cost, rules...

They're in index Astra Militarum. They have a lot of same/similar units but not much in the way of stratergies. They're cheap and cheerful, so you can fill a battalion or brigade fairly cheaply.

 small_gods wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

I'm not explaining myself right. I just know basics from 40k, far from an expert.

You use troops from a roster/codex called "renegades&heretics" which seem to be something close to astra militarum: 25 points characters, cheap troops, leman russ tanks... As a chaos player (1ksons and tzeentch daemons) I don't know what codex or rules allow you to play that units, and where can I find their stats, point cost, rules...

They're in index Astra Militarum. They have a lot of same/similar units but not much in the way of stratergies. They're cheap and cheerful, so you can fill a battalion or brigade fairly cheaply.

Scratch the cheap and cheerfull part, they are more expensive then IG for what they can do, fw killed off the line, the rules are gak and they lost 3/5 th of their unique units in transition to 8th.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 small_gods wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

I'm not explaining myself right. I just know basics from 40k, far from an expert.

You use troops from a roster/codex called "renegades&heretics" which seem to be something close to astra militarum: 25 points characters, cheap troops, leman russ tanks... As a chaos player (1ksons and tzeentch daemons) I don't know what codex or rules allow you to play that units, and where can I find their stats, point cost, rules...

They're in index Astra Militarum. They have a lot of same/similar units but not much in the way of stratergies. They're cheap and cheerful, so you can fill a battalion or brigade fairly cheaply.

Scratch the cheap and cheerfull part, they are more expensive then IG for what they can do, fw killed off the line, the rules are gak and they lost 3/5 th of their unique units in transition to 8th.

Haha true, if you want cheap battalions for CP brimstones or nurglings are the way to go. Especially with cultists inexplicably becoming 5ppm

Worse cultists might i add.

 small_gods wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

I'm not explaining myself right. I just know basics from 40k, far from an expert.

You use troops from a roster/codex called "renegades&heretics" which seem to be something close to astra militarum: 25 points characters, cheap troops, leman russ tanks... As a chaos player (1ksons and tzeentch daemons) I don't know what codex or rules allow you to play that units, and where can I find their stats, point cost, rules...

They're in index Astra Militarum. They have a lot of same/similar units but not much in the way of stratergies. They're cheap and cheerful, so you can fill a battalion or brigade fairly cheaply.

But they are faction keyword imperium right?? Yo cannot use them in a chaos soup

Khellendr0s wrote:

 small_gods wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

I'm not explaining myself right. I just know basics from 40k, far from an expert.

You use troops from a roster/codex called "renegades&heretics" which seem to be something close to astra militarum: 25 points characters, cheap troops, leman russ tanks... As a chaos player (1ksons and tzeentch daemons) I don't know what codex or rules allow you to play that units, and where can I find their stats, point cost, rules...

They're in index Astra Militarum. They have a lot of same/similar units but not much in the way of stratergies. They're cheap and cheerful, so you can fill a battalion or brigade fairly cheaply.

But they are faction keyword imperium right?? Yo cannot use them in a chaos soup

No they replace imperium with Chaos.
Am with renegade and heretics and thanks to faq are able to use chimera and valkyries as transports.

Ok after a bit of planning I think this is what I’ll go for.

Thoughts?



++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [84 PL, 1291pts, 15CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [12CP]

+ HQ +

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 26pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 26pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 26pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

+ Troops +

Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 52pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autogun
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ Autogun
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber

Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 52pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autogun
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ Autogun
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber

Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 52pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autogun
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ Autogun
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber

Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 56pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autopistol & Brutal assault weapon
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Flamer

Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 56pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autopistol & Brutal assault weapon
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Flamer

Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 56pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autopistol & Brutal assault weapon
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Flamer

+ Elites +

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 3x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Command Squad [6 PL, 58pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple w/ Banner: Banner of Hate, Lasgun
. 5x Disciple with lasgun
. Disciple with special weapon: Flamer

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 3x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [37 PL, 708pts, 5CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Horticulus Slimux [9 PL, 165pts]: Warlord

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]: Fleshy Abundance, Horn of Nurgle's Rot

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 235pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

+ Fast Attack +

Plague Drones [6 PL, 130pts]: Instrument of Chaos, 2x Plague Drone, Plaguebringer

++ Total: [121 PL, 1999pts, 20CP] ++

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Hmm, you could save theorethically 60 pts by "downgrading" to militia, that said for 60 pts you could field the following 10 heavy stubber teams, depending on your covenant that might be a decent Investment, or probably better mortars.
Alternate take, replace the spawn with sentinels.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Hmm, you could save theorethically 60 pts by "downgrading" to militia, that said for 60 pts you could field the following 10 heavy stubber teams, depending on your covenant that might be a decent Investment, or probably better mortars.
Alternate take, replace the spawn with sentinels.

Thank you

I think the +1 to hit is worth the extra point but I do have a list where I use milita with voxs and Vox on the command squad for a more useless but braver troops and even a few plasma pistols on the commanders, just to swap to if moral becomes worse than the 5+ to hiy

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Hmm, you could save theorethically 60 pts by "downgrading" to militia, that said for 60 pts you could field the following 10 heavy stubber teams, depending on your covenant that might be a decent Investment, or probably better mortars.
Alternate take, replace the spawn with sentinels.

Thank you

I think the +1 to hit is worth the extra point but I do have a list where I use milita with voxs and Vox on the command squad for a more useless but braver troops and even a few plasma pistols on the commanders, just to swap to if moral becomes worse than the 5+ to hiy

25% pricehike Ehhhhhhm, can't really say that, especially when it would allow you to saturate your enemy in vehicles potentially. That said if it works it works still flamer is imo to expensive for the 3.5 s4 hits.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Hmm, you could save theorethically 60 pts by "downgrading" to militia, that said for 60 pts you could field the following 10 heavy stubber teams, depending on your covenant that might be a decent Investment, or probably better mortars.
Alternate take, replace the spawn with sentinels.

Thank you

I think the +1 to hit is worth the extra point but I do have a list where I use milita with voxs and Vox on the command squad for a more useless but braver troops and even a few plasma pistols on the commanders, just to swap to if moral becomes worse than the 5+ to hiy

25% pricehike Ehhhhhhm, can't really say that, especially when it would allow you to saturate your enemy in vehicles potentially. That said if it works it works still flamer is imo to expensive for the 3.5 s4 hits.

Lol fair point. Would love to take hellhounds instead of chaos spawn but then no room for deamons


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++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [81 PL, 1302pts, 15CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [12CP]

+ HQ +

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 34pts]: Bolt pistol, Power fist

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

+ Troops +

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Chainsword, Laspistol
. Renegade Militia w/ special weapon: Flamer
. Renegade Militia w/ special weapon: Flamer
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Laspistol and Brutal assault weapon, Vox-caster
. 6x Renegade Militia with Laspistol & Brutal Assault Weapon

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Chainsword, Laspistol
. Renegade Militia w/ special weapon: Flamer
. Renegade Militia w/ special weapon: Flamer
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Laspistol and Brutal assault weapon, Vox-caster
. 6x Renegade Militia with Laspistol & Brutal Assault Weapon

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 57pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Chainsword, Laspistol
. Renegade Militia w/ special weapon: Flamer
. Renegade Militia w/ special weapon: Flamer
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Laspistol and Brutal assault weapon, Vox-caster
. 6x Renegade Militia with Laspistol & Brutal Assault Weapon

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 47pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Chainsword, Laspistol
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Laspistol and Brutal assault weapon, Vox-caster
. Renegade Militia Weapon Team: Heavy stubber, 2x Renegade Militia
. 6x Renegade Militia with Lasgun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 47pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Chainsword, Laspistol
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Laspistol and Brutal assault weapon, Vox-caster
. Renegade Militia Weapon Team: Heavy stubber, 2x Renegade Militia
. 6x Renegade Militia with Lasgun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 47pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Chainsword, Laspistol
. Renegade Militia w/ Vox-caster: Laspistol and Brutal assault weapon, Vox-caster
. Renegade Militia Weapon Team: Heavy stubber, 2x Renegade Militia
. 6x Renegade Militia with Lasgun

+ Elites +

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple w/ Banner: Banner of Hate, Lasgun
. 2x Disciple with lasgun
. Disciple with special weapon: Plasma gun

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 55pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple w/ Command Vox Net: Autogun, Command vox net
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 2x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 55pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple w/ Command Vox Net: Autogun, Command vox net
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 2x Disciple with lasgun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [37 PL, 698pts, 5CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Horticulus Slimux [9 PL, 165pts]: Warlord

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]: Fleshy Abundance, Horn of Nurgle's Rot

+ Troops +

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 235pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

+ Fast Attack +

Plague Drones [6 PL, 120pts]: 2x Plague Drone, Plaguebringer

++ Total: [118 PL, 2000pts, 20CP] ++

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Scout sentinel with ac is 40 pts, cut the flamers and you could replace all the spawns with sentinels.

On the other hand covenant is which one?

Also flamers in melee militia can work better then on cultists since counteracting lower bs so I like them in this list more.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Scout sentinel with ac is 40 pts, cut the flamers and you could replace all the spawns with sentinels.

On the other hand covenant is which one?

Also flamers in melee militia can work better then on cultists since counteracting lower bs so I like them in this list more.

My warlord is a deamon not a commander so no covenant :(
I know the milita flamers are good I posted the maths on the tactics page

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Scout sentinel with ac is 40 pts, cut the flamers and you could replace all the spawns with sentinels.

On the other hand covenant is which one?

Also flamers in melee militia can work better then on cultists since counteracting lower bs so I like them in this list more.

My warlord is a deamon not a commander so no covenant :(
I know the milita flamers are good I posted the maths on the tactics page

Ah didn't see, makes sense though, as for flamers "good" is a stretch, better then on other models with higher bs is probably the more correct term since 6ppm flamers still are meh imo.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Scout sentinel with ac is 40 pts, cut the flamers and you could replace all the spawns with sentinels.

On the other hand covenant is which one?

Also flamers in melee militia can work better then on cultists since counteracting lower bs so I like them in this list more.

My warlord is a deamon not a commander so no covenant :(
I know the milita flamers are good I posted the maths on the tactics page

Ah didn't see, makes sense though, as for flamers "good" is a stretch, better then on other models with higher bs is probably the more correct term since 6ppm flamers still are meh imo.

That’s fair but since I play aggressively (as all chaos should) and use my troops to objective grabbing as well as hold from counter attacks and screening flamers work well for that and damage per point they do have the highest damage per point out if all weapon options that milita can take

Not Online!!! wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 small_gods wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

I'm not explaining myself right. I just know basics from 40k, far from an expert.

You use troops from a roster/codex called "renegades&heretics" which seem to be something close to astra militarum: 25 points characters, cheap troops, leman russ tanks... As a chaos player (1ksons and tzeentch daemons) I don't know what codex or rules allow you to play that units, and where can I find their stats, point cost, rules...

They're in index Astra Militarum. They have a lot of same/similar units but not much in the way of stratergies. They're cheap and cheerful, so you can fill a battalion or brigade fairly cheaply.

But they are faction keyword imperium right?? Yo cannot use them in a chaos soup

No they replace imperium with Chaos.
Am with renegade and heretics and thanks to faq are able to use chimera and valkyries as transports.

Ok I will definitely look for the rules by myself, as it seems like you have to pay for every word you write.

Thankyou for no help at all.

Khellendr0s wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 small_gods wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

I'm not explaining myself right. I just know basics from 40k, far from an expert.

You use troops from a roster/codex called "renegades&heretics" which seem to be something close to astra militarum: 25 points characters, cheap troops, leman russ tanks... As a chaos player (1ksons and tzeentch daemons) I don't know what codex or rules allow you to play that units, and where can I find their stats, point cost, rules...

They're in index Astra Militarum. They have a lot of same/similar units but not much in the way of stratergies. They're cheap and cheerful, so you can fill a battalion or brigade fairly cheaply.

But they are faction keyword imperium right?? Yo cannot use them in a chaos soup

No they replace imperium with Chaos.
Am with renegade and heretics and thanks to faq are able to use chimera and valkyries as transports.

Ok I will definitely look for the rules by myself, as it seems like you have to pay for every word you write.

Thankyou for no help at all.

We've given you where to find the rules, how the keywords work for renegades and heretics and the most recent faq rules changes.

I really don't understand what else you want. A copy and paste of the Astra Militarum index? A detailed breakdown of all the units in the entire r&h with our opinions on them? You know we don't work for you right?

Also there is a tactics thread, search for it and you may find more. As for the rules, again it was named where they are and what changed with faq.

Khellendr0s wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 small_gods wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Khellendr0s wrote:
Where do you get all that renegades?? Can we use astra militarum in chaos?

All the renegades were from Cadian army I got lol,
I wish we could use astra militrum as chaos allies like brood brothers to genestealers but until they release a new index or codex we are stuck with the worst rules in the game.

I'm not explaining myself right. I just know basics from 40k, far from an expert.

You use troops from a roster/codex called "renegades&heretics" which seem to be something close to astra militarum: 25 points characters, cheap troops, leman russ tanks... As a chaos player (1ksons and tzeentch daemons) I don't know what codex or rules allow you to play that units, and where can I find their stats, point cost, rules...

They're in index Astra Militarum. They have a lot of same/similar units but not much in the way of stratergies. They're cheap and cheerful, so you can fill a battalion or brigade fairly cheaply.

But they are faction keyword imperium right?? Yo cannot use them in a chaos soup

No they replace imperium with Chaos.
Am with renegade and heretics and thanks to faq are able to use chimera and valkyries as transports.

Ok I will definitely look for the rules by myself, as it seems like you have to pay for every word you write.

Thankyou for no help at all.

What is your damage? You didn’t even know about them before and we told you it’s in the imperial armour index astra militrum and you know we can’t send or link you the index right since it’s against the code of conduct for this forum.
Also your not paying anything so you may need to work on your English or get an education .
If you use BattleScribe they are all on there as well and since there is no unique stratagems, warlord traits or relics you won’t miss anything.


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Not Online!!! wrote:
Also there is a tactics thread, search for it and you may find more. As for the rules, again it was named where they are and what changed with faq.

And back to topic you think that the spawn is no good for the fast slots? Basically I may go for hellhounds some how but not a fan of sentinels but you say it’s worth the 7 extra points?

And back to topic you think that the spawn is no good for the fast slots? Basically I may go for hellhounds some how but not a fan of sentinels but you say it’s worth the 7 extra points?

Well since we are stuck on the 33 ppm spawn unlike csm (thank you gw.) and sentinels and guns for sentinels got a lot cheaper, there is a point to be made for ML sentinels or ac sentinels compared to r&h spawn.

That said if you have the pts and don't need cheap cp hellhounds are decent suicide tanks.

Not Online!!! wrote:

And back to topic you think that the spawn is no good for the fast slots? Basically I may go for hellhounds some how but not a fan of sentinels but you say it’s worth the 7 extra points?

Well since we are stuck on the 33 ppm spawn unlike csm (thank you gw.) and sentinels and guns for sentinels got a lot cheaper, there is a point to be made for ML sentinels or ac sentinels compared to r&h spawn.

That said if you have the pts and don't need cheap cp hellhounds are decent suicide tanks.

Very good points. If we don’t get an update by the time I can afford them will have to get some

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

And back to topic you think that the spawn is no good for the fast slots? Basically I may go for hellhounds some how but not a fan of sentinels but you say it’s worth the 7 extra points?

Well since we are stuck on the 33 ppm spawn unlike csm (thank you gw.) and sentinels and guns for sentinels got a lot cheaper, there is a point to be made for ML sentinels or ac sentinels compared to r&h spawn.

That said if you have the pts and don't need cheap cp hellhounds are decent suicide tanks.

Very good points. If we don’t get an update by the time I can afford them will have to get some

Well we are nothing if not consistent in 8th, Terribad with the exception that we might consdier moderate working AM units as good replacements for our own slots.

That said, the new Sentinels aren't half bad, 3 of them won't kill your bank account comparatively and with the drop in pts for a lot of the guns it can use they are rather decent thing.

Alternatively if you want something more sturdy, the salamander scout tank got a lot cheaper thanks to the drop on Autocannons for just 73 pts you get a chimera with scout movement autocannon and heavy bolter.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

And back to topic you think that the spawn is no good for the fast slots? Basically I may go for hellhounds some how but not a fan of sentinels but you say it’s worth the 7 extra points?

Well since we are stuck on the 33 ppm spawn unlike csm (thank you gw.) and sentinels and guns for sentinels got a lot cheaper, there is a point to be made for ML sentinels or ac sentinels compared to r&h spawn.

That said if you have the pts and don't need cheap cp hellhounds are decent suicide tanks.

Very good points. If we don’t get an update by the time I can afford them will have to get some

Well we are nothing if not consistent in 8th, Terribad with the exception that we might consdier moderate working AM units as good replacements for our own slots.

That said, the new Sentinels aren't half bad, 3 of them won't kill your bank account comparatively and with the drop in pts for a lot of the guns it can use they are rather decent thing.

Alternatively if you want something more sturdy, the salamander scout tank got a lot cheaper thanks to the drop on Autocannons for just 73 pts you get a chimera with scout movement autocannon and heavy bolter.

I self imposed a 1 gw purchase per year limit with tax returns (this year it will be a blackstone fortress box) which is why I convert a lot but yea if I will probably get a few sentinels next year and convert my chimera to a hellhound will also be useable with my space wolves as imperial allies if need be.

Being a parent and sole provider makes things harder on the hobby.

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

And back to topic you think that the spawn is no good for the fast slots? Basically I may go for hellhounds some how but not a fan of sentinels but you say it’s worth the 7 extra points?

Well since we are stuck on the 33 ppm spawn unlike csm (thank you gw.) and sentinels and guns for sentinels got a lot cheaper, there is a point to be made for ML sentinels or ac sentinels compared to r&h spawn.

That said if you have the pts and don't need cheap cp hellhounds are decent suicide tanks.

Very good points. If we don’t get an update by the time I can afford them will have to get some

Well we are nothing if not consistent in 8th, Terribad with the exception that we might consdier moderate working AM units as good replacements for our own slots.

That said, the new Sentinels aren't half bad, 3 of them won't kill your bank account comparatively and with the drop in pts for a lot of the guns it can use they are rather decent thing.

Alternatively if you want something more sturdy, the salamander scout tank got a lot cheaper thanks to the drop on Autocannons for just 73 pts you get a chimera with scout movement autocannon and heavy bolter.

I self imposed a 1 gw purchase per year limit with tax returns (this year it will be a blackstone fortress box) which is why I convert a lot but yea if I will probably get a few sentinels next year and convert my chimera to a hellhound will also be useable with my space wolves as imperial allies if need be.

Being a parent and sole provider makes things harder on the hobby.

Ah right you down there on the upside down part of the world pay even more premium than we swiss....
GW pricing policy at it's finest.