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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/02 21:49:57
Subject: [2000] - Chaos
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Dakka Veteran
New Zealand
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Hail traitors
Here is another attempt at a semi competitive list using renegade guard and Deamons.
The tactics go with deamons upfront hopefully tanking with the plaguebearers and regenerating them with cp.
The cultists follow up and take and hold while trying to screen the big guns and the banner command squad giving out free hits from the cultists.
I originally had milita with Vox casters and Vox command squads for big moral buff but since I’m running msu I figured that cultists will deal more damage for only 5points more and moral losses will be minimal.
All advice and comments welcome.
++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [84 PL, 1291pts, 15CP] ++
+ No Force Org Slot +
Battle-forged CP [3CP]
Detachment CP [12CP]
+ HQ +
Renegade Commander [3 PL, 26pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
Renegade Commander [3 PL, 26pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
Renegade Commander [3 PL, 26pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
+ Troops +
Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 52pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autogun
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ Autogun
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber
Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 52pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autogun
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ Autogun
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber
Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 52pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autogun
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ Autogun
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber
Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 56pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autopistol & Brutal assault weapon
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Flamer
Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 56pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autopistol & Brutal assault weapon
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Flamer
Renegade Cultists [3 PL, 56pts]
. Renegade Cultist Champion: Autopistol & Brutal assault weapon
. 8x Renegade Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon
. Renegade Cultist w/ special weapon: Flamer
+ Elites +
Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 3x Disciple with lasgun
Renegade Command Squad [6 PL, 58pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple w/ Banner: Banner of Hate, Lasgun
. 5x Disciple with lasgun
. Disciple with special weapon: Flamer
Renegade Command Squad [3 PL, 45pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Missile launcher
. 3x Disciple with lasgun
Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun
Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun
Renegade Disciple Squad [3 PL, 50pts]: Krak grenades
. Disciple Champion: Autogun
. Disciple Heavy Weapon Team: 2x Disciple, Lascannon
. 2x Disciple with autogun
+ Fast Attack +
Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn
Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn
Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn
+ Heavy Support +
Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon
Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon
Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [37 PL, 708pts, 5CP] ++
+ No Force Org Slot +
Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle
Detachment CP [5CP]
+ HQ +
Horticulus Slimux [9 PL, 165pts]: Warlord
Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]: Fleshy Abundance, Horn of Nurgle's Rot
+ Troops +
Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms
Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms
Plaguebearers [12 PL, 235pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden
+ Fast Attack +
Plague Drones [6 PL, 130pts]: Instrument of Chaos, 2x Plague Drone, Plaguebringer
++ Total: [121 PL, 1999pts, 20CP] ++
Created with BattleScribe
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/02 22:24:27
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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I'd check your points after chapter approved 18, chaos spawn are 25 points. Don't know if anything else has dropped.
With the daemon detachment I'm not sure what Horticulus Slimix brings you. I would drop him, one unit of nurglings and the plaguedrones. With that (and the spawn points drop) you can take 30 more plaguebearers, spoilpox scriviner and sloppity bilepiper. This makes plaguebearers dangerous and getting up to 5 damage (with virrulant blessing). Bilepiper makes it twice as likely you'll roll a 1 for your icon and get more back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/02 22:37:23
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos
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Dakka Veteran
New Zealand
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small_gods wrote: I'd check your points after chapter approved 18, chaos spawn are 25 points. Don't know if anything else has dropped.
With the daemon detachment I'm not sure what Horticulus Slimix brings you. I would drop him, one unit of nurglings and the plaguedrones. With that (and the spawn points drop) you can take 30 more plaguebearers, spoilpox scriviner and sloppity bilepiper. This makes plaguebearers dangerous and getting up to 5 damage (with virrulant blessing). Bilepiper makes it twice as likely you'll roll a 1 for your icon and get more back.
Wow i never thought renegades would get a points drop yay
Horty is mostly because he really good at fighting and staying alive. I’ve seen him take 2 smash captains and not only win easily but ended the game at full wounds from his self healing. I would really like the 2 units of 30x plaguebearers and the other hqs though that is awesome.
Thanks bro
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/02 22:49:44
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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small_gods wrote: I'd check your points after chapter approved 18, chaos spawn are 25 points. Don't know if anything else has dropped.
With the daemon detachment I'm not sure what Horticulus Slimix brings you. I would drop him, one unit of nurglings and the plaguedrones. With that (and the spawn points drop) you can take 30 more plaguebearers, spoilpox scriviner and sloppity bilepiper. This makes plaguebearers dangerous and getting up to 5 damage (with virrulant blessing). Bilepiper makes it twice as likely you'll roll a 1 for your icon and get more back.
Actually renegades didn't get the price drop only the csm one got it.....
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/03 00:03:15
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos
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Dakka Veteran
New Zealand
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Not Online!!! wrote: small_gods wrote: I'd check your points after chapter approved 18, chaos spawn are 25 points. Don't know if anything else has dropped.
With the daemon detachment I'm not sure what Horticulus Slimix brings you. I would drop him, one unit of nurglings and the plaguedrones. With that (and the spawn points drop) you can take 30 more plaguebearers, spoilpox scriviner and sloppity bilepiper. This makes plaguebearers dangerous and getting up to 5 damage (with virrulant blessing). Bilepiper makes it twice as likely you'll roll a 1 for your icon and get more back.
Actually renegades didn't get the price drop only the csm one got it.....
Poop, oh well.
What do you think of the list anyway?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/03 00:10:24
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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ulfhednir86 wrote:Not Online!!! wrote: small_gods wrote: I'd check your points after chapter approved 18, chaos spawn are 25 points. Don't know if anything else has dropped.
With the daemon detachment I'm not sure what Horticulus Slimix brings you. I would drop him, one unit of nurglings and the plaguedrones. With that (and the spawn points drop) you can take 30 more plaguebearers, spoilpox scriviner and sloppity bilepiper. This makes plaguebearers dangerous and getting up to 5 damage (with virrulant blessing). Bilepiper makes it twice as likely you'll roll a 1 for your icon and get more back.
Actually renegades didn't get the price drop only the csm one got it.....
Poop, oh well.
What do you think of the list anyway?
Tbf most people would argue that this is just a typo.
So maybee gw faq this?
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/03 00:12:02
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos
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Dakka Veteran
New Zealand
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Not Online!!! wrote: ulfhednir86 wrote:Not Online!!! wrote: small_gods wrote: I'd check your points after chapter approved 18, chaos spawn are 25 points. Don't know if anything else has dropped.
With the daemon detachment I'm not sure what Horticulus Slimix brings you. I would drop him, one unit of nurglings and the plaguedrones. With that (and the spawn points drop) you can take 30 more plaguebearers, spoilpox scriviner and sloppity bilepiper. This makes plaguebearers dangerous and getting up to 5 damage (with virrulant blessing). Bilepiper makes it twice as likely you'll roll a 1 for your icon and get more back.
Actually renegades didn't get the price drop only the csm one got it.....
Poop, oh well.
What do you think of the list anyway?
Tbf most people would argue that this is just a typo.
So maybee gw faq this?
I hope so.
Do you think the army list us viable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/03 00:14:11
Subject: [2000] - Chaos
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Sure, but i would not pay for flamers when nade launchers or stubbers exist for 1/3 of the points 1/2 of the points of 1 flamer.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/03 00:47:16
Subject: [2000] - Chaos
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Dakka Veteran
New Zealand
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Not Online!!! wrote:Sure, but i would not pay for flamers when nade launchers or stubbers exist for 1/3 of the points 1/2 of the points of 1 flamer.
Ah the flamers are on the melee squads and fir softening before a charge or overwatch. I could do grenade launchers but with only bs5 thought flamers would work
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