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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 09:47:37
Subject: Does IG have to be so model heavy?
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Sunsanvil wrote:
Is that sort of thing usually tolerated in the WH community at large? ie "Lets just say these Cadian are really Tallarn..."
We had a Chaos Space Marines player that Nuglified his Tau models.
Whether the fluff would agree is one thing, but they looked good, WYSIWYG was close enough, and we got more games in by going along with it.
If Cadians are Tallarn with scavenged kit for this battle, yeah, we'd play against it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 10:35:36
Subject: Does IG have to be so model heavy?
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Dakka Veteran
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Sunsanvil wrote:
Is that sort of thing usually tolerated in the WH community at large? ie "Lets just say these Cadian are really Tallarn..."
I play my cadian-models as catachans, geared and camo:ed to fight in the concrete- jungle.
Since there pretty much are no non-cadian models (well there "are" catachans, but I'd never pay for them), I don't see any issues
If SM-players can make up their own chapter, and if Tau-players can make up their own cadre(?), and nid-players can make up their own hive fleet, etc, all so that the players can play with whatever chapter/cadre/hive fleet etc, they feel like at the time, I have no issues with IG-players using cadian model's (preferably not painted as cadians) as whatever regiment they feel like playing at the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 14:13:22
Subject: Does IG have to be so model heavy?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Sunsanvil wrote:
Is that sort of thing usually tolerated in the WH community at large? ie "Lets just say these Cadian are really Tallarn..."
Even GW is on board with this. The guard codexshows some converted regiments (such as using GSC neophytes with skitarii heads as a new regiment) and states that you can make up your own regiment and pick whatever doctrine fits them best.
Seeing ‘real’ Tallarn is a treat, but getting ahold of enough OOP metal models to make an army takes a lot of cash.
Since my Guard usually roll as straight tank company (no infantry) it’s not an issue for me. the tanks look the same regardless, pretty much.
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Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 19:46:55
Subject: Does IG have to be so model heavy?
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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IG are pretty flexible when it comes to how big or small in model count you build them. You have Tank armies with a dozen or so models to the all infantry hoard of bodies... and everything in between.. and that's before considering allies.
Ascalam wrote: Sunsanvil wrote:
Is that sort of thing usually tolerated in the WH community at large? ie "Lets just say these Cadian are really Tallarn..."
Even GW is on board with this. The guard codexshows some converted regiments (such as using GSC neophytes with skitarii heads as a new regiment) and states that you can make up your own regiment and pick whatever doctrine fits them best.
Seeing ‘real’ Tallarn is a treat, but getting a hold of enough OOP metal models to make an army takes a lot of cash.
Since my Guard usually roll as straight tank company (no infantry) it’s not an issue for me. the tanks look the same regardless, pretty much.
Just to add to what you're saying... GW's made clear they don't expect you to actually hunt down the old minis. That makes calling Cadian/Catachans/Scions/Necromunda/other human oe semi-human minis... calling them whatever regiment you want is really the only way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 20:22:48
Subject: Does IG have to be so model heavy?
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Clousseau
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MinscS2 wrote:To everyone claiming that IG is more or less always a static gunline with little to no close-combat capabilities: My 80 catachan guardsmen, backed up by a couple of Ministorum Priests, Col. Straken, a unit of Bullgryns, a unit of Death Riders and (soon) a unit of Ogryns would like a word.
To anyone who actually plays 40k, we're all familiar with how potent this is. Imperial Guard are actually the best melee army in the imperium. You would smash many of the people on this forum that think a 13 point 1 attack model is god in combat.
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Galas wrote:I remember when Marmatag was a nooby, all shiney and full of joy. How playing the unbalanced mess of Warhammer40k in a ultra-competitive meta has changed you 
Bharring wrote:He'll actually *change his mind* in the presence of sufficient/sufficiently defended information. Heretic. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 22:51:00
Subject: Does IG have to be so model heavy?
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Legendary Dogfighter
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Since platoons have gone because 40k fears flavour guard have nowhere near the numbers they used to on the table.
It's only 8th that makes it harder to manage by being a clunky gakky system
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/17 07:52:43
Subject: Re:Does IG have to be so model heavy?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Just as an add in. So long as you are easy to distinguish you can use say cadian models for other guard factions regimental doctrines. Just because they wear a certain type of gear and look a certain way doesn't mean they are that faction. They could have cadian issued armor and weapons but their combat style could be a blitz type of speed warfare like the tallarns. Just need to be sure your opponent knows what the doctrine you're using is if there could be confusion.
I mean it's no more odd then back when space wolves 5th edition codex was new and doing so well and every chaos army under the sun " Was better represented by the space wolves codex " that was a time of unique and varied space wolves color schemes to be sure.
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