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Does this fall under the turn 3 rule? Recently I nearly tabled my opponent and by turn 3, he hadn't summoned any units. I told him that by turn 3 all reinforcements are destroyed, and he said they don't count as reinforcements. Is there a clear FAQ regarding summoning on turn 4?

Thanks.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Does this fall under the turn 3 rule? Recently I nearly tabled my opponent and by turn 3, he hadn't summoned any units. I told him that by turn 3 all reinforcements are destroyed, and he said they don't count as reinforcements. Is there a clear FAQ regarding summoning on turn 4?

Thanks.

They are "reinforcements" (because they are set up mid turn) but the rule for Tactical Reserves doesn't care about "reinforcements", it cares about units that are set up somewhere other than the battlefield.

Summoned Daemons are never set up somewhere other than the battlefield, so the Tactical Reserves rule doesn't apply to them.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Does this fall under the turn 3 rule? Recently I nearly tabled my opponent and by turn 3, he hadn't summoned any units. I told him that by turn 3 all reinforcements are destroyed, and he said they don't count as reinforcements. Is there a clear FAQ regarding summoning on turn 4?

Thanks.

They are "reinforcements" (because they are set up mid turn) but the rule for Tactical Reserves doesn't care about "reinforcements", it cares about units that are set up somewhere other than the battlefield.

Summoned Daemons are never set up somewhere other than the battlefield, so the Tactical Reserves rule doesn't apply to them.

So can Daemons be summoned on turn 1 then?

topaxygouroun i wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Does this fall under the turn 3 rule? Recently I nearly tabled my opponent and by turn 3, he hadn't summoned any units. I told him that by turn 3 all reinforcements are destroyed, and he said they don't count as reinforcements. Is there a clear FAQ regarding summoning on turn 4?

Thanks.

They are "reinforcements" (because they are set up mid turn) but the rule for Tactical Reserves doesn't care about "reinforcements", it cares about units that are set up somewhere other than the battlefield.

Summoned Daemons are never set up somewhere other than the battlefield, so the Tactical Reserves rule doesn't apply to them.

So can Daemons be summoned on turn 1 then?

Yep so long your chaos Charachter did not move atleast according to the CSM codex rule.

What about not daemons, like summoned cultists? Lets just say Summoning. He can SUMMON on any turn, and totally disregard the tactical reserves rules?

I'm sorry to be dense about this but I've never seen a game where a player waited until turn 4 to summon. Seemed odd.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
What about not daemons, like summoned cultists? Lets just say Summoning. He can SUMMON on any turn, and totally disregard the tactical reserves rules?

I'm sorry to be dense about this but I've never seen a game where a player waited until turn 4 to summon. Seemed odd.

Only Daemons and the daemonic ritual allows that to my knowledge.
Everything else not. to my knowledge.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
What about not daemons, like summoned cultists? Lets just say Summoning. He can SUMMON on any turn, and totally disregard the tactical reserves rules?

I'm sorry to be dense about this but I've never seen a game where a player waited until turn 4 to summon. Seemed odd.

You can't summon Cultists because they don't have the Daemonic Ritual special rule.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
What about not daemons, like summoned cultists? Lets just say Summoning. He can SUMMON on any turn, and totally disregard the tactical reserves rules?

I'm sorry to be dense about this but I've never seen a game where a player waited until turn 4 to summon. Seemed odd.

With summoning there was no unit in existence at turn 3 to be destroyed so the turn 3 caveat is irrelevant. There is no restrictions to summoning turn 4 and beyond.