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2019/03/20 16:29:15
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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This list is designed for an ITC Major. Off the top of my head, psykers are my first weakness. Anything else that might be a potential weakness?
+++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) +++
++ Questor Traitoris Super-Heavy Detachment +6CP (Chaos - Renegade Knights) ++
+ Lord of War +
Renegade Armigers
Renegade Armiger: Meltagun, Thermal spear and Reaper chain-cleaver
Renegade Armiger: Meltagun, Thermal spear and Reaper chain-cleaver
Renegade Armigers
Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons
Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons
Renegade Knight: 1. Legendary Fighter, Character, Heavy stubber, Reaper chainsword, The Traitor's Mark, Thunderstrike gauntlet, Warlord
Renegade Knight: Heavy stubber, Ironstorm Missile Pod
Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
Renegade Knight: Heavy stubber, Ironstorm Missile Pod, Thermal cannon
Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
++ Total: [111 PL, 9CP, 1993pts] ++
Created with BattleScribe ( https://battlescribe.net)
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2019/03/26 17:35:21
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Someone pointed out that board control will also be a weakness. Opinions?
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2019/03/26 18:13:15
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Hmm, the cheapest way of boardcontroll for chaos i can think would be a min battalion of R&H.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/26 18:42:07
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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I've used a battalion of WE cultists with hellwrights. That works good.
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2019/03/26 18:46:25
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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chimeara wrote:I've used a battalion of WE cultists with hellwrights. That works good.
Well We cultists are now just cultists, might aswell go as cheap as possible then, no?
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/26 22:20:00
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Not Online!!! wrote: chimeara wrote:I've used a battalion of WE cultists with hellwrights. That works good.
Well We cultists are now just cultists, might as well go as cheap as possible then, no?
My idea for this list is, that I don't "need" the cultists. I intended on using the killyness of the knights to get objectives and points. So far the field I'm going against looks like a lot of power armor, only a couple other full knight armies, mix of xenos.
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2019/03/26 22:48:58
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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chimeara wrote:Not Online!!! wrote: chimeara wrote:I've used a battalion of WE cultists with hellwrights. That works good.
Well We cultists are now just cultists, might as well go as cheap as possible then, no?
My idea for this list is, that I don't "need" the cultists. I intended on using the killyness of the knights to get objectives and points. So far the field I'm going against looks like a lot of power armor, only a couple other full knight armies, mix of xenos.
Do you have enough plattforms with the right firepower though.
That is an issue for you.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/27 00:45:52
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Just what I have on the top post. 3 big boys, 4 little.
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2019/03/27 07:53:52
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Do you think you would survive against a horde list?
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/27 10:47:41
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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The closest to horde I've played against was GSC. That was tough. It was also with my other version of this list with CSM. Had I used different tactics I could have won. I also haven't seen horde lists in my meta in a long time short of Orks, and even those are not being played as much anymore.
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2019/03/27 22:30:24
Subject: Re:[2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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Split it into 2 superheavy detachments for the extra cp.
++ Questor Traitoris Super-Heavy Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Renegade Knights) ++
+ Lord of War +
Renegade Armigers
Renegade Armiger: Meltagun, Thermal spear and Reaper chain-cleaver
Renegade Armigers
Renegade Armiger: Meltagun, Thermal spear and Reaper chain-cleaver
Renegade Armigers
Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons
Renegade Armiger: Heavy stubber, Two armiger autocannons
++ Questor Traitoris Super-Heavy Detachment +6CP (Chaos - Renegade Knights) ++
+ Lord of War +
Renegade Knight: 1. Legendary Fighter, Character, Heavy stubber, Reaper chainsword, The Traitor's Mark, Thunderstrike gauntlet, Warlord
Renegade Knight: Heavy stubber, Ironstorm Missile Pod
Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
Renegade Knight: Heavy stubber, Ironstorm Missile Pod, Thermal cannon
Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
++ Total: [111 PL, 12CP, 1993pts] ++
You kinda do have board control. Push the knights since with stomp they will be a threat to all the small stuff while they shoot and kill anything else. Park a Armiger on a objective to get that 1 point/turn.
Vs horde you have the stomp and just weakened things before you go in. Castellan will be biggest threat since it will kinda eat a knight a turn.
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2019/03/28 00:09:07
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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I'd thought about splitting, but do I really need 12CP with only 2 strats? I like that strategy, I usually park the helverins on the closest objective anyways, I do need to be a bit more aggressive with my dual avenger guy. I usually sit him back. The dual heavy flamers can put in work. I've done against one castellan, it's such a pain to kill. I have to over commit to killing it, which leaves the rest of my opponents stuff free. But, if I don't that boy will have it's way with me.
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2019/03/30 03:41:14
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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12cp is 6 Rotate Ion shields and there is 6 turns in a game.
Re'roll a save or d6 damage.
3cp for free can be the difference between an extra save from a volcano cannon or turning that D1 into a D6.
You only increase your drop by one.
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2019/03/31 11:47:01
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Yeah, that makes sense now. I suppose and extra Rotate and Trail of Destruction isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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2019/04/01 22:25:29
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knights - Pure Knights
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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I just remembered, if you don't have any Titanic boys you don't get any CP. One Titanic nets you +3, three Titanic nets +6.
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