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I might have missed something but isn't it strange that neither the war hound or the shrieking masquerade (two mayor black legion warband from abbadon books) are not on vigilus while all the big ships are? Are they dead/on mission? Or just under the carpet?
Sry for eventual english errors.

The two Black Legion books take place 9,000 years before Vigilus. There is no evidence that either warband still exists.

They still exist. But as a general rule, GW do not draw upon the names of ADB's characters and warbands. Khayon and Telemachon as an example have never been mentioned in a non-BL publication (outside of one BA Death Company thing that ADB himself wrote). Just like how they refer to Abaddon's bodyguards as the Bringers of Despair while ADB calls them the Aphotic Blade.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
They still exist. But as a general rule, GW do not draw upon the names of ADB's characters and warbands. Khayon and Telemachon as an example have never been mentioned in a non-BL publication (outside of one BA Death Company thing that ADB himself wrote). Just like how they refer to Abaddon's bodyguards as the Bringers of Despair while ADB calls them the Aphotic Blade.

Or its been 10,000 Years and they are dead or have renamed themselves. Lheovine Ukis, for instance, died in the 7th Black Crusade. his Warband was probably renamed by who ever replaced him. Telemachon was the Herald of the Warmaster, but now it seems to be Haarken. Alot can change over the course of thousands of Years.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
They still exist. But as a general rule, GW do not draw upon the names of ADB's characters and warbands. Khayon and Telemachon as an example have never been mentioned in a non-BL publication (outside of one BA Death Company thing that ADB himself wrote). Just like how they refer to Abaddon's bodyguards as the Bringers of Despair while ADB calls them the Aphotic Blade.

Or its been 10,000 Years and they are dead or have renamed themselves. Lheovine Ukis, for instance, died in the 7th Black Crusade. his Warband was probably renamed by who ever replaced him. Telemachon was the Herald of the Warmaster, but now it seems to be Haarken. Alot can change over the course of thousands of Years.

Neither Telemachon or Khayon are dead and their warbands still exist; I was not commenting on Lheor. We already know this from existing texts. Haarken's role is a perfect example of the differences between GW & BL publications. Read more closely.

even if they're not dead they may have fallen from favor. it's also possiable their names are repeated often just we hear differant names, we've been told for example that many of the names etc are not 100% correct. whose to say Haakon world claimer isn't another name Telemachon was known by? or whose to say Telemachon wasn't killed on Cadia, between the events of the black legion novels and viglius, whose to say Abaddon doesn't have multiple heralds (would the man you send to sweet talk legions into joining you nesscarily be the best choice to sow terror among your enemy before your arrival?)

BrianDavion wrote:
it's also possiable their names are repeated often just we hear differant names, we've been told for example that many of the names etc are not 100% correct.

We know, for example, that both 'Ygethmor' and 'Zaraphiston' are sometimes Khayon and sometimes somebody else. Most of the information in books like Vigilus is from the Imperium's PoV, and their understanding of Abaddon's forces is extremely poor. 'Haarken' might be a (probably Cthonian) word meaning 'Herald', and so 'Haarken Worldclaimer' might simply be the title of whomever Abaddon sends to deliver threats/ultimatums to worlds he intends to conquer, not an individual character's name at all.

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
They still exist. But as a general rule, GW do not draw upon the names of ADB's characters and warbands. Khayon and Telemachon as an example have never been mentioned in a non-BL publication (outside of one BA Death Company thing that ADB himself wrote). Just like how they refer to Abaddon's bodyguards as the Bringers of Despair while ADB calls them the Aphotic Blade.

Or its been 10,000 Years and they are dead or have renamed themselves. Lheovine Ukis, for instance, died in the 7th Black Crusade. his Warband was probably renamed by who ever replaced him. Telemachon was the Herald of the Warmaster, but now it seems to be Haarken. Alot can change over the course of thousands of Years.

Neither Telemachon or Khayon are dead and their warbands still exist; I was not commenting on Lheor. We already know this from existing texts. Haarken's role is a perfect example of the differences between GW & BL publications. Read more closely.

You know for a fact Telemachon isnt dead do you? I certainly didnt say for a fact that he was. Was his fate ever mentioned at all? You should read more closely honestly, I said he was, now its Haarken. That can be taken any number of ways. But since Black Library is a subset of GW, you can make the assumption that he's dead or replaced. And does Khayon's Warband exist? Because he's not there running it, its now someone else's and probably renamed, or it was absorbed.

Isn't Khayon a prisoner of the IOM? Like, he surrendered himself to Imperial forces before the 13th Black Crusade, and has been a prisoner on Terra ever since?

Yes he is, which is why I say his Warband would be defunct now. absorbed into other Warbands, undernew management or dead before Khayon surrendered.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Isn't Khayon a prisoner of the IOM? Like, he surrendered himself to Imperial forces before the 13th Black Crusade, and has been a prisoner on Terra ever since?

yeah, granted I've always assumed the sons of the cyclops was his warband, although he likely calls it something differant