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2019/07/15 14:01:03
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
DaveC wrote: Not all warbands are 8 minis Corvus Cabal and Unmade have 9 as do Untamed Beasts with their “hound”
Some may be 9 models, but the price will be €40, so €4.44 per model. That doesn't make it any better.
I can pick up two Warhammer Underworlds Warbands for just under €40. That gives me more models and loads of cards to use with them.
Sure the WC models are nice, bit it is going to take some serious effort for WC to replace WU as my go to fantasy skirmish game.
The difference is that it is entirely plausible that you won't use all of the models in the sets at the start of a campaign for WarCry.
Underworlds has no option for that. You use what it says you use and that's that.
2019/07/15 14:17:03
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
Does anyone have any idea how quickly this is going to sell out? How long was Kill Team available before they ran out of stock? I was really hoping to pick up Warcry during my local store's birthday event in August. Does anyone doubt there will be stock left after a month?
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2019/07/15 15:06:40
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
DaveC wrote: Not all warbands are 8 minis Corvus Cabal and Unmade have 9 as do Untamed Beasts with their “hound”
Some may be 9 models, but the price will be €40, so €4.44 per model. That doesn't make it any better.
I can pick up two Warhammer Underworlds Warbands for just under €40. That gives me more models and loads of cards to use with them.
Sure the WC models are nice, bit it is going to take some serious effort for WC to replace WU as my go to fantasy skirmish game.
isn't the 40 euro the direct gw price? if yes then you should compare it to the gw price for underworlds where a warband cost €22.5, so its over €40 for 2 warbands. Besides that the amount of models realy depends on the warband. And last we don't know the sprues for warcry, we might be getting options
2019/07/15 15:21:24
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
DaveC wrote: Not all warbands are 8 minis Corvus Cabal and Unmade have 9 as do Untamed Beasts with their “hound”
Some may be 9 models, but the price will be €40, so €4.44 per model. That doesn't make it any better.
I can pick up two Warhammer Underworlds Warbands for just under €40. That gives me more models and loads of cards to use with them.
Sure the WC models are nice, bit it is going to take some serious effort for WC to replace WU as my go to fantasy skirmish game.
isn't the 40 euro the direct gw price? if yes then you should compare it to the gw price for underworlds where a warband cost €22.5, so its over €40 for 2 warbands. Besides that the amount of models realy depends on the warband. And last we don't know the sprues for warcry, we might be getting options
There’s at least some options, we’ve seen the same models armed with different weapons in different photos.
2019/07/15 15:34:58
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
Duskweaver wrote: I'm pretty sure I'll be picking up at least one set of all six warbands, plus extra copies of those most suitable for conversion fodder.
OK, now I've seen the prices, I will not be doing that, because it would end up in the region of £300.
So I'll probably forget about buying into the game altogether and just get a box each of the Unmade and the Cypher Lords for conversion fodder.
feth you, GW.
A little bit of righteous anger now and then is good, actually. Don't trust a person who never gets angry.
2019/07/15 15:57:07
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July - Cypher Lords Warband pg16, Starter Set pg18
Duskweaver wrote: I'm pretty sure I'll be picking up at least one set of all six warbands, plus extra copies of those most suitable for conversion fodder.
OK, now I've seen the prices, I will not be doing that, because it would end up in the region of £300.
So I'll probably forget about buying into the game altogether and just get a box each of the Unmade and the Cypher Lords for conversion fodder.
feth you, GW.
That’s a bit weird to read. You didn’t expect that a WHOLE collection of a single wargame will not be cheap? You want a lot, it will cost a lot 30 pounds for a warband is a bit much, I have to agree, though. Especially after Necromunda and Underworlds prices. There isn’t any customization in the warcry minis is there?
2019/07/15 15:59:45
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
ecurtz wrote: Not at all happy to see the USA is moving toward an Australia/New Zealand style absurdly random exchange rate.
Try north of the border eh? We have to pay double what ever GW pound price is. Also when our buck was more than the US buck we still were paying over 30% more. You would have thought Canadian pricing would be less than US once that happened.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2019/07/15 16:00:32
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July - Cypher Lords Warband pg16, Starter Set pg18
Duskweaver wrote: I'm pretty sure I'll be picking up at least one set of all six warbands, plus extra copies of those most suitable for conversion fodder.
OK, now I've seen the prices, I will not be doing that, because it would end up in the region of £300.
So I'll probably forget about buying into the game altogether and just get a box each of the Unmade and the Cypher Lords for conversion fodder.
feth you, GW.
That’s a bit weird to read. You didn’t expect that a WHOLE collection of a single wargame will not be cheap? You want a lot, it will cost a lot 30 pounds for a warband is a bit much, I have to agree, though. Especially after Necromunda and Underworlds prices. There isn’t any customization in the warcry minis is there?
There’s at least some, we’ve seen the same models with different weapons.
I dunno, the warband prices seem fine to me. Shadespire generally has less models in a team, and are pushfit with no options. Necromunda has more options and a couple more models, but is just one sprue repeated, where as each model in these is unique. And they come with the cards. I was hoping for £25, but expecting £30, especially after the price rise we’ve just had.
2019/07/15 16:07:33
Subject: Re:Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
Today's Stormcast features Maxime Pastourel who is the contents lead for Warcry (and the one responsible for the belt buckles)
Learn all about the new Warcry warbands, their cultures, wargear and fighting styles in this week's StormCast as Maxime Pastourel, from the Citadel miniatures team, joins Wade for a chat.
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2019/07/15 16:07:43
Subject: Re:Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
Learn all about the new Warcry warbands, their cultures, wargear and fighting styles in this week's StormCast as Maxime Pastourel, from the Citadel miniatures team, joins Wade for a chat.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/07/15 16:43:22
Subject: Re:Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
DaveC wrote: Today's Stormcast features Maxime Pastourel who is the contents lead for Warcry (and the one responsible for the belt buckles)
It remains such a strange design choice. Would anybody struggle to differentiate a member of the Untamed Beasts with one of the Cypher Lords if it hadn't been for those things?
2019/07/15 17:00:13
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August full details page 19 prices pg 21 and OP
Looks like models are fixed like in Underworlds but able to build a force using points?
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
I am used to icon-driven stat cards but this looks very poorly executed. In the first place, the abilities look to be few and short enough to be printed in whole on the cards anyway. Secondly, the icons are entirely abstract and in no way representative of the ability, making them godawfully hard to remember. I personally would fire the graphics designer over this.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
2019/07/15 17:14:22
Subject: Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August - prices pg 21, unboxing pg 23
So, from those cards it seems that four of the Iron Golems have a single fixed configuration and four have an alternate build (including one having a choice between Signifer and Prefector character types).
2019/07/15 17:15:40
Subject: Re:Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August -prices pg 21 unboxing pg 23 (OP updated)
Symbols are pretty odd - Fist for toughness for instance....
Hmm - need to see more before I decide.
Interesting figure shown seems to have lots of attacks (4 or 8 depending how it works) and lots of wounds (15)
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Mr Morden wrote: Symbols are pretty odd - Fist for toughness for instance....
Uh, the 4 on the legend doesn't correspond to the 4 printed as a value on the actual card.
Yeah just realised that I typed that - my stupidity
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Mr Morden wrote: Symbols are pretty odd - Fist for toughness for instance....
Hmm - need to see more before I decide.
Interesting figure shown seems to have lots of attacks (4 or 8 depending how it works) and lots of wounds (15)
Isn't the shield for Toughness and Fist for strength. Icons could be better alright it took me a minute to figure out each line was the statline for the weapon on the left.
2019/07/15 17:24:54
Subject: Re:Warhammer AoS Warcry preorder 20th July release 3rd August -prices pg 21 unboxing pg 23 (OP updated)
Mr Morden wrote: Symbols are pretty odd - Fist for toughness for instance....
Hmm - need to see more before I decide.
Interesting figure shown seems to have lots of attacks (4 or 8 depending how it works) and lots of wounds (15)
Isn't the shield for Toughness and Fist for strength. Icons could be better alright it took me a minute to figure out each line was the statline for the weapon on the left.
See above - i was stupid
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
DaveC wrote: Warcry will introduce 28mm bases for the first time.
Wait, seriously? Why?
Maxime mentions fighter classes of light, standard and heavy. The Iron Legionaries are standard and go on 28mm bases 32mm is for heavy, so I assume 25mm is for light (he mentions normal humans being on 25mm). It's at around the 24 minute mark in today's Stormcast.
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