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2019/05/16 13:47:09
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
You can look for his charts of the relative performance in order of each product identified by manufacturer and model number.
His build page can give some guidance, https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-pc-builds,4390.html I have found the "best" means of getting what you want is to set a budget and then pack the best you can for the money into that price.
Hope this helps.
Some thoughts / notes:
- System boot-up speed and overall "snappy" feel is to have your operating system on an SD drive, it is almost llike booting up with RAM. Then have a 2+ terabyte drive for general storage. Do NOT let Steam or other programs clutter up the bootable SD drive, they are typically limited in space unless you spend insane money.
- Speaking of which, do not skimp on ram, speed and size, it will have a big impact on games in particular.
- I have tried for years to use and like AMD, do not use them. Nvidia all the way. Painful is AMD trying to software run "Phys-X" that is hardware run with Nvidea. This is one issue among others. Nvidia all the way.
- It is complex, but the motherboard is the nervous system of your computer. It decides future upgrades, overall expansion and how well your graphics card works: ensure it is compatible to your video card and ram you selected.
- Power supply. Too many times all kinds of people and companies do not get a big enough power supply to feed that hungry CPU and video card. Verify how much power is needed. <edit> Get much more than you need in case of upgrades, this is the cheaper item to go overkill on.
- It all should be standard but ensure USB 3.0 at least. Hooking up external drives or memory sticks will be almost humane for download/upload times. Most VR rigs require the faster USB as well.
- Really good ventilation with BIG cooling fans for low RPM = less noise vs high air-flow. <edit> many components try to "skimp" by using bigger heat exchangers (aluminum fins) that still need airflow or things overheat and error correction goes way up = slower system.
- CPU, it is difficult to decide on two core facts: some games still only support 2 cores. So if you have a choice of less cores but higher frequency it MAY be the best choice. BUT the more cores you have, the more parallel processes you can operate at once. I tended to convert a ton of music or compile things, each of these can be handed to each core and they can all run concurrently. Depends on what you plan on doing the most. Read some specifications of your choice games and see what they support.
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2019/05/16 14:17:47
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Depends if your building yourself or wanting pre built. Chillblast make excellent pc's , I build my own now but bought one from them in 2012 that is still running strong.
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2019/05/16 17:34:41
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
am using a Chillblast at the moment, problem is iv had to take it in three times for repair with hardware problems. Not sure if thats down to me or the make but it doesn't want to make me buy from them again.
Im looking for a pre-built, what would you think of something like this.
Yikes! pretty expensive for what it is.
BUT if you want/need the DVD drive and the wireless connection it is worth considering.
£399.00
Brand name HP Item Weight 8.6 Kg
Package Dimensions 44 x 44 x 19 cm Manufacturer reference 26146-upgrade#CR Processor Brand Intel
Processor Type Core i5
Processor Speed 3.20 GHz
Processor Count 4
RAM Size 16 GB
Memory Technology DDR3 SDRAM
Computer Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM
Hard Drive Size 1 TB Hard Disk Technology SATA
Hard Drive Interface Serial ATA Additional Drives DVD+/-RW Graphics Coprocessor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Graphics Card Description nVidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Graphics Card Ram Size 4 GB
Graphics Card Interface PCI-E
Wireless Type 802.11bgn
Hardware Platform PC Operating System Windows 10 Home
The ram is smaller but a faster architecture (DDR4 vs DD3)
Spoiler:
DDR4 is the latest in memory technology for Desktops, Laptops and Servers as of year 2016.
DDR4 operates at a lower voltage of 1.2V.
DDR4 starts with the speed of PC4-17000 2133MHz to upto PC4-27200 3400MHz.
Pin size 288pins for desktop and server DIMMs and 260pins for laptop SODIMMs.
DDR3
Has a higher voltage of 1.5v.
Speed starts from DDR3-1066MHz PC3-8500 to DDR3-2000MHz PC3-16000.
Pin size 240pins for desktop and server DIMMs and 204pins for laptop SODIMMs.
£499.95
Brand name ADMI
Item Weight 9.76 Kg
Package Dimensions 60 x 50 x 40 cm Manufacturer reference AD-DED-9DA-FED
Color blue
Processor Brand Intel
Processor Type Pentium
Processor Speed 3.70 GHz
Processor Count 2
RAM Size 8 GB
Memory Technology DDR4 SDRAM
Computer Memory Type DIMM
Hard Drive Size 1 TB Hard Disk Technology HDD 7200 rpm
Hard Drive Interface Serial ATA Graphics Coprocessor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Graphics Card Description Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti 4GB
Graphics RAM Type SGRAM
Graphics Card Ram Size 4 GB
Graphics Card Interface PCI-E
Optical Drive Type N/A
Hardware Platform PC Operating System Windows 10 Home
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2019/05/17 21:09:00
Subject: Re:Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
I had never even heard of the "Pentium Gold" processors. Turns out according to Passmark it has half the computing power of my 6 year old i7-4770K. The 1050 isn't so bad though, and most games are GPU bound rather than CPU bound but that is an iffy proposition for even budget gaming IMO - starting in a bad place that only gets worse over time.
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2019/05/18 09:51:48
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Honestly . . . after building 3 computers on my own, I've found a few of the pre-built custom PC companies out there are quite good, AND they often offer their PC at a price that is lower than you'd get retailing each individual part.
check out ibuypower.com cyberpower.com, or find a UK equivalent if neither ships across the pond.
2019/05/18 20:45:54
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Am from the UK, if anyone can suggest a site or give advise on these selections please help! Budget of around £400.
Here is my take, which is a bit outfield but I beleive will help you.
I have highlighted your 'errors' in red.
1. You are not after a recommended site, you are after a site per component, especially if on a tight budget. The guys who can sell you cheap RAM are not necessarily the same as can provide you a cheap processor etc etc. Shop around and put the time in to get the best deals. Yes a single site can offer you a whole build which can save you money, but you might not like what is on offer, and you can always get the best price by individually shopping for components.
2. Your budget is not £400, £400 is instead as much as you have to spend now. As you want a gaming PC you will need a good one or you will be disappointed. I will help you not be disappointed.
HOW TO BUY YOUR NEW PC.
1. Take a look at what you have got, or can get for free, for now. First we need to know if you already have a PC, if its broken, just too obsolete or you don't have one at all. Your answer might effect what strategy I suggest, yes I did say (and mean) strategy, In a nutshell you want as good a computer as the budget will allow. Sadly £400 will not go far, and if you try and spread that around too many components you will either have to search long and hard for a deal or buy something which is not worthy of a gamer.
If you have no computer, or its all busted. - If you want a new PC weholecloth look for a managers deal, ex shop front PC's etc. You might ber able to shave something off the price and end up with a decent build. Alternately save your £400 and wait until you cna make that £600, the extrac two tons will make all the difference. Chillblast have a number of good entry level gaming computers at around that budget. I build my own, but as Ensis Ferrae says you can get some good deals out there. Next option is to go to a computer fair and see what you can pick up. Its a buyers market, go in there wave your money and play hardball, someone will take your cash for a build for you.
If you have a computer but its too obsolete - Save it!!!! Even if its really old and not much good. If you buy new you wont get far, and even if you raise your budget there are always yet more things to buy. If you can save any components from the old machine do so. It can save you an OS for a start. 'But Orlanth' My HDD is slow and full and my graphics card wont play the games I like." Good. I dont care and neither should you, so long as they work. What you need to do is blow your £400 on as few components as possible to buy quality. So say you kept the old storage, graphics card and case and PSU, you can now spend £400 on a new core system, the things you really need to focus on and have to be bought together: Processor, motherboard and comptible RAM. For £400 you can get something really nice. Ye you might end up with a Ryzen processor and a fast mobo and a dogpoo old graphics card that doesnt play decent games. Play old games on your new rig, then when your budget has recovered buy a better graphics card. You could try it the other way around, place a nice grpahics card in your old machine, then later replace the core.
Of course there will be points of incompatibility, but you will likely be able to port something over, so rather than spending money on too many components you can get quality for some components and buy other quality items later. Of course this measn your budget is no longer £400, but for a gamer it never was anyway. That is simply not enough for a decent gaming rig, and it would be wasteful to buy components only to have to replace them later.
2. Start with a set item you know to be a sweet spot for your rig
I have some sample options for you here for making a cast effective gaming PC.
I suggest looking for a sweet spot decent but inexpensive processor of graphics card to base your computer around.
For graphics a good choice is the GTX 1060 3Gb, or the 6GB
I recommend the 6GB because the price difference isn't a lot now, its a decent card for the price. The RX480 is a good arternative.
For processor a good choice is the Ryzen 7 1700
There are good Intel processors but Ryzen is the best option right now. I highly recommend the Ryzen 7 1700. you could go for a Ryzen 5 but its a false economy, this processor will provide high performance at a reasonable price. It also have excellent functionality. Its base clock is 3.GHZ and its heavily overclockable so you can squeeze a lot out of it. But overclocking is not everything. I bought mine NOT to overclock it, because its core temperature and power draw on factor clock settings are very low. So low in fact that unoverclocked you can passive cool it (though that is a gimic and not recommended for a gamer). even so its light on power draw, doesnt require monster cooling and therefore is quieter. You might get a better gaming experience from a factory clocked Ryzen 7 1700 on a quiet computer than an overclocked but noisier machine.
Now these options are not exhaustive by any means, and there are many categories in which other alternatives are better or cheaper. That doesnt matter to me, I am only giving you two options for hardware you can base a new PC around. If you choose the graphics card, you can buy it today and place it in your existing machine, get some performance out of it that can tide you over until you can afford the processor. If you want to buy the processor you will need other things with it. At a minimum a new motherboard and DDR4 RAM. As items expand the options for you increase exponentially, so I will simply say I recommend the mid ranged B350 series motherboards. The X370 series is to expensive for what you get (though you might get good deals) and cheaper chipsets are a false economy. This assumes you consider a Ryzen processor.
2. Buy the minimum suitable RAM. RAM is somethign you can add to. Though the sticks should be absolutely identical for best performance. If you go with an ATX mobo with four RAM slots buy 1/4 of the RAM you eventually need. It will effect performance but not compatibility. 4GB is enough to get you buy, you can buy the other 4, or 12 Gb later.
3. Research everything. You can google-fu for reviews on every component you want to try.
This can mean a lot of legwork as you then have to research the specific RAM you need, power supplyi you want, case for the motherboard formating, and any changes result in new search criteria. - Hence why I suggest you to start with a core sweet spot component to build your PC around. research is good, and remember for every video you watch or article you read there are second opinions, so you are never truly done, but you will at least be informed.
4. Consider disposable components. If you have no PC you might do worse than buying a budget graphics card which barely works. It is wasted money thrown away when you replace it, but if you get something really desperately basic its only a small amount of wastage, and you could even get obsolete hardware for free. It any case it is far better to buy a good half of a computer and a barely functional half of a computer that you can replace later for little loss, than two adequate halves where you will want to replace everything. Dogpoo graphics cards can cost you as little as a tenner, new!. Check to see if your new motherboard can get buy on a couple of GB of dogpoo RAM, some can some cant. Small HDD's are cheap new, and a 250GB HDD has long term function as a backup storage device you can install update, remove and put in a safe place. So its useful after you have budgeted properly for an SDD for your OS and games, and large backup HDD for file storage. The only two items you might get 'right' first time are the motherboard and processor, though you could buy graphics card first instead.
5. Consider your case carefully. Do you want semi-trnasportable? If so go for a small form factor case, you might be better off with a mini-ITX, which then effects your motheboard purchase, number of RAM slots, and may dictate what size PSU you can use and if you have room for optical storage.
Tip: If you want semi-transportable, keep the box and foam the case was in. Especially if it has a carry handle on the box. You can take your rig to LAN parties/home from uni and vice versa and after use leave it to cool for 5 minutes before putting it back in the foam and box the computer case was originally shipped in. If you want a very small PC your case becomes your core component you have to model the whole build around.
TLDR - Buy only the components you need to buy now, and blow all your budget on them. Then spend more on other components as funds become available. The more you save the better your rig will be, by splitting up the budget over time and buying the best quality you can at each stage you will end up with a gaming rig later rather than sooner, but will have a rig that lastas a lot longer and provides a superior gaming experience than if you try to squeeze everything into a small budget.
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2019/06/09 18:49:40
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Use a ryzen processor and a geforce fix 960 card with at least 4gb on it, mine handled all crysis games, the last couple wolfenstein games, mass effect andromeda and a few others. I'm not a major pc game addict but I do play some now and then.
2019/06/09 22:00:40
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
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2019/06/10 13:48:00
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
He's too busy playing the latest games at 4K 100fps on that £320 system to respond.
Pro tip, people in the same boat as the OP - don't be fooled by ebay auctions where the seller has:
Taken a discarded business PC (you can tell from the H61 chipset that this started life as a very cheap budget machine) = £10*
Put it in a cheap RGB case +£30
Added a cheap 'big' GPU +£40 (a refurbished GPU is especially worrying as the better ones could have spent a long time 'mining' and be significantly worse for wear)
Added a cheap small SSD +£20
Added an LED cooler +£10
Added a wifi dongle +£5
Put the words 'Gaming' 'RGB' and 'Fortnite' in the auction title
Total: £115
Congrats OP, you got taken for a £200 ride if you bought that system.
*possibly, my school sells on old kit at this price and you can find bulk lot auctions of such hardware
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2019/06/10 19:58:56
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Actually I have bought second hand components before, you sniff out the seller first. You can get good mileage.
Also coin mining isn't that bad, wear comes from turning components on and off, mining rigs are run 24/7 and that has relatively little wear.
Caveat emptor still applies but I have generally been lucky with second hand stuff. Only caught out once and got an ebay return on that item.
However I tend to go for computer fairs for hardware mostly. either that or build a rapport with a local indie shop and feed them business. Be a paying customer and a wise seller will want to continue to have your custom. Don't be afraid to ask to pricematch.
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2019/06/10 20:11:50
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Orlanth wrote: Also coin mining isn't that bad, wear comes from turning components on and off, mining rigs are run 24/7 and that has relatively little wear.
I disagree. Yes, every electrical component takes some shock from being turned on, but in the aggregate that is nothing like the wear that comes from a (probably overclocked) GPU being run at 100% for a year or so, cooking the VRMs.
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2019/06/11 00:11:37
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Orlanth wrote: Also coin mining isn't that bad, wear comes from turning components on and off, mining rigs are run 24/7 and that has relatively little wear.
I disagree. Yes, every electrical component takes some shock from being turned on, but in the aggregate that is nothing like the wear that comes from a (probably overclocked) GPU being run at 100% for a year or so, cooking the VRMs.
Very well, I know an electrical engineer or two who says otherwise. Continuous running even at high load is normally stable. Still chances of buying worn out computer hardware is low enough that I risk second hard rather a lot and get away with it. There is little room to say second hand GPU = coin miner blowout. Most often it's because someone upgrades to a next level tech. Casual users outnumber data miners heavily, and there are includes to tell the difference.
Look where you are buying from. If its a domestic seller its likely an older replaced GPU, if its a refurbishment firm its more likely ex-office equipment, derelicts etc. Which is more likely to contain worn items.
I tend to also ask about how and why its being replaced.
Also whether it is second hand or refurbished. Casual users tend to either replace to upgrade or replace because the old hardware fails. Assuming it works on delivery its likely the former.
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2019/06/11 00:39:01
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Orlanth wrote: There is little room to say second hand GPU = coin miner blowout. Most often it's because someone upgrades to a next level tech. Casual users outnumber data miners heavily, and there are includes to tell the difference.
For sure. I think one of the things I would look at would be if, say, on ebay, the seller was listing 20x available used 1070s or something like that. I would personally pass on a anyone selling a lot that large if they were GPUs known to be popular miners.
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2019/06/11 16:59:43
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
The 1060 was somewhat popular with miners, though far less so than others but more importantly it was a sweet spot entry point for gamers. Richer gamers then move on to the 1080 leaving 1060s available for resale.
If someone wants to get rid of a clearly superior car like a 1070 it is reasonable to ask why. Rich gamers have long bypassed 1060 though, but may well have stopped along the way.
I cant say my GPU was not a coin miner's, but I doubted it enough I decided to buy.
I doesn't also means I wont dare overclock my GPU. But then my built strategy is built around not overclocking. I bought the Ryzen 7 1700 for low power usage and temperatures when not overclocked, which still offering good performance. I find that more valuable than overclocking.
My current build is half done. My previous (actually still current PC) is a second hand ex server bought in 2011. Its lasted well and as a server evidently was worn then. Wear is important but isn't everything, it also matters how much load you put on it in future, clock values have longevity in mind, so if you dont push the hardware it will last even if de facto worn. I got 8 years out of an ex-server PC by looking after it, I am typing on it now, but its days are numbered as I can finally afford better. Though I did replace the mobo in 2016, so you could say I got five years. I have a much better budget than I had back in 2011. I am buying newe components. However I also have a small form factor case that is very efficient but only has room for a single slot graphics card. So I bought a second hand MSI 1060 which has only venting on the second slot endpiece, and have researched how to convert a 2slot into a 1slot graphics card. You can see why I wanted to do this on a second hand GPU rather than buy new. If it fails I will buy a new case, and a new GPU. But I should be up to this, and if it works and eventualkly the GPU does fail I will have hands on experience of the 2slot to 1slot conversion and the confidence to do this with a new card.
People have 1slotted Titan X graphics card before, so I know it can be done. Even so no way am I 1slotting anything more expensive than a 1060, not unless I am 100% sure what I am doing.
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2019/06/14 15:08:57
Subject: Re:Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
I have a question myself, and would like to shear what Dakka has to say.
Buying an M.2 SSD. The pice variance is enormous. A 500GB SSD will cost between £60 and £120 dependent on brand with Samsung at the top end and Western Digital being the cheapest. I expect some difference in quality in components but is there any reason not to buy a budget card.
Sample price list:
Western Digital 1TB - £145
Samsung Evo 970 500GB - £120
Crucial 500GB - £69
Western Digital 480GB - £65
Western Digital 240GB SSD - £35
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2019/06/15 03:14:55
Subject: Re:Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
I am always willing to pay for at least the EVO, if not the Pro, with Samsung. I think in this specific area, you get what you pay for - the WD Green is a lot cheaper, but it's also so, so much slower - 384MB/s vs 2175MB/s. To me, having that much drastically better performance every time I use the laptop - which will probably be at least a few years - is worth a lot more than a lousy hundred bucks or whatever the difference is.
It's harder to make that argument for drives that are little closer in performance. However, I'm not really on a budget and I want what is reasonably the best I can buy, excluding crazy bleeding edge stuff. I have been very happy with every Samsung SSD / M2 NVME I've gotten from them and as such, that would be my vote every time.
I am sure the WD drives work well enough and if I was building a PC for my sister or someone on a tighter budget I wouldn't recommend against them.
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2019/06/15 12:01:02
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Thanks for that, but aren't even base SSD speeds fast enough not to make a difference to a user due to caching blending speeds.
Also is brand related to longevity of the unit?
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2019/06/16 01:06:06
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Orlanth wrote: Also is brand related to longevity of the unit?
I think more like certain lines get longer warranties; the cheap ones get 2 years and the good ones get 5. This is a place where there really is some wiggle - are you likely to still be using the same OS SSD in 5 years?
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2019/06/16 19:27:05
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Ouze, your help is much appreciated. I have done some research Crucial have 5 year warranties at a decent price. I wont need five years, but more than two is nice. Western Digital is also improved but I am not impressed with the brand.
The number of read write cycles also increases beyond that of size, so I am perhaps looking at a 1TB or even a 2TB is the price is right. Though the latter is excessive methinks, and I will still have room for an HDD for file storage, which is 2TB itself, though not especially fast.
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2019/06/16 19:48:31
Subject: Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
I'm about to leap into the M.2 environment myself and I'm set on a 1TB 970 EVO plus for my main gaming rig and a 500GB version for my 'workhorse' HTPC.
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2019/06/16 21:11:41
Subject: Re:Looking for advise for a budget gaming rig.
Crucial 1Tb is £110 there is no 2TB in M.2, as of yet.
Ok. I made my decision. Thanks for the help.
Next question soon.....
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