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Hello good people of dakkadakka. I thought of an interesting bit of synnergy that ive never seen talked about. Its pretty simple but seems potent.
So basically, we take 3 hellbrutes each armed with two power scourges, make them the flawless host, and run a lord discordant with them.
The +1 to hit aura gives us a 1/3 chance of getting a bonus attack, hellbrutes armed this way have 11 attacks base, that means an avverage of 3-4 bonus attacks, if fighting agsinst imperium, thats 6-8 bonus attacks on average. This combo can oneshot a knight, an ork horde, or practically anything you trow it at. What do you guys think?

Helbrutes don't have DttFE for one (for some reason), so they dont get any extra attacks vs imperials.

They're put out a lot of damage for sure, but hellbrutes are pretty fragile and doublescorges tip them over the points-efficiency line IMO. Better to just run them with double fists/bolters as cheap and effective brawlers.

Huh, i wasnt aware of the fact that they dont get dttff, whilst yeah, they are less point efficient, i feel like taking this combo, costing 530 pount in total, coukd act as a very powerful tool, as the opponent will either have to shoot it early to get rid of it, or risk berzerker filled rhinos to unload hell on his face. Coes if he doesmt the hellbrutes will sure as hell do the same. Thats kinda the point of view i am looking at this from

Also for some reason helbrutes aren't daemon engines. Despite being dreadnoughts infused with daemons...
You could run something similar with 3 maulerfiends with lasher tendrils, also your lord discordant also gets extra attacks on 5+ for flawless host as he buffs himself.

So 2 LD and 3 maulerfiends is 716 points and will deal with anything you get it in combat with. You'd need a good way of clearing screen and holding objectives to go with it so a couple of red corsair battalions with some reaper chaincannons could make a decent list!

What the hell... I really should start paying more attention to the keywords. Welp, yeah. Lasher tendril fiends could work in a pretty similar way, almost the same actually, plus they get an invul which is great. Thank you for the insight and correction. It waz a oversight on my part.

 eliphas wannabe wrote:
What the hell... I really should start paying more attention to the keywords. Welp, yeah. Lasher tendril fiends could work in a pretty similar way, almost the same actually, plus they get an invul which is great. Thank you for the insight and correction. It waz a oversight on my part.

Infact, the LoD is actually disadvantagous for Hellbrutes. Since the Helbbrute is no Daemon, it suffers from a -1 to hit.

Go figure.
(you are better off imo with the 90 pts dakka brute and a Warpsmith for a cheap relativly durable dakka basis.)

Only enemy vehicles suffer the -1 to hit debuff, not ALL vehicles.

 McGibs wrote:
Only enemy vehicles suffer the -1 to hit debuff, not ALL vehicles.

Now i need to reread that.
That actually pushes good old LoD quite a bit upwards imo.