Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019: Addendum...

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**Stux**

Bilge Rat wrote:
A link to a list of the documents is in BCB's signature. He currently has it at 92

Fair enough!

But my point stands, I have yet to need to reference even as many as 10 in a given game.

**BaconCatBug**

Bilge Rat wrote:
A link to a list of the documents is in BCB's signature. He currently has it at 92

I've not had time to update it with the Ynnari errata or Slaanesh Daemon datasheets so it's up to 94 I think!

**alextroy**

But the main rule book Designers Commentary was combined with the FAQ, reducing the document count by one!

**JohnnyHell**

Stux wrote:
Bilge Rat wrote:
A link to a list of the documents is in BCB's signature. He currently has it at 92

Fair enough!

But my point stands, I have yet to need to reference even as many as 10 in a given game.

Indeed. The exaggeration is strong with some people. It’s irrelevant how many documents exist, you only need a handful for your army in any given game. Unless you’re posturing on the internet it simply isn’t a problem.

**Breton**

VladimirHerzog wrote:
Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
What were people doing in Overwatch when using it as if it were the shooting phase that they will not be able to do now?

rerolling 1's / failed hits / all hits / wounds

Wait what? The Auras - at least the non-Chaplain ones I've checked - don't specify a phase.

April FAQ Update wrote:Q: When a rule allows a model or unit to take an action (move, shoot, charge, fight or attempt to manifest a psychic power) outside of the normal turn sequence, and that rule explicitly mentions to make that action as if it were a different phase of the turn structure to the current one, e.g. ‘That unit can shoot as if it were the Shooting phase’, do rules that are normally used during that phase (in the example this would be the Shooting phase) take effect? Is the same true of Overwatch attacks?

A: With the exception of Stratagems, all rules (e.g. abilities, Warlord Traits, psychic powers etc.) that would apply in a specific phase apply to actions that are taking place ‘as if it were that phase’. However, if a Stratagem specifies that it must be used in a specific phase, then it can only be used in that phase (e.g. you cannot use a Stratagem that says ‘Use this Stratagem in the Shooting phase’ to affect a unit that is Shooting ‘as if it were the Shooting phase’). For the purposes of this FAQ, Overwatch attacks are not considered to be attacks made as if it were your Shooting phase.

Emphasis mine. The Rites/etc don't apply to a specific phase. They are "always on". Telion, providing a +1 to scout units to hit would not be "on" during overwatch. Master of Prescience would not work if you were the overwatch target, but in theory could/would if you were being shot at in an out of sequence event, The Ultramarine's chapter tactic for shooting. falling back, and -1 isn't one I'd want to unravel and argue. - just for some other examples.

Additionally, one other thing cleared up is the Hand of Dominion and the Beta Bolter Rule. As Guilliman is a Monster not an Infantry it doesn't apply to him. Like Chapter Tactics. And Apothecaries.

**BaconCatBug**

Breton wrote:
VladimirHerzog wrote:
Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
What were people doing in Overwatch when using it as if it were the shooting phase that they will not be able to do now?

rerolling 1's / failed hits / all hits / wounds

Wait what? The Auras - at least the non-Chaplain ones I've checked - don't specify a phase.

April FAQ Update wrote:Q: When a rule allows a model or unit to take an action (move, shoot, charge, fight or attempt to manifest a psychic power) outside of the normal turn sequence, and that rule explicitly mentions to make that action as if it were a different phase of the turn structure to the current one, e.g. ‘That unit can shoot as if it were the Shooting phase’, do rules that are normally used during that phase (in the example this would be the Shooting phase) take effect? Is the same true of Overwatch attacks?

A: With the exception of Stratagems, all rules (e.g. abilities, Warlord Traits, psychic powers etc.) that would apply in a specific phase apply to actions that are taking place ‘as if it were that phase’. However, if a Stratagem specifies that it must be used in a specific phase, then it can only be used in that phase (e.g. you cannot use a Stratagem that says ‘Use this Stratagem in the Shooting phase’ to affect a unit that is Shooting ‘as if it were the Shooting phase’). For the purposes of this FAQ, Overwatch attacks are not considered to be attacks made as if it were your Shooting phase.

Emphasis mine. The Rites/etc don't apply to a specific phase. They are "always on". Telion, providing a +1 to scout units to hit would not be "on" during overwatch. Master of Prescience would not work if you were the overwatch target, but in theory could/would if you were being shot at in an out of sequence event, The Ultramarine's chapter tactic for shooting. falling back, and -1 isn't one I'd want to unravel and argue. - just for some other examples.

Some Auras do, most notably Belisarius Cawl's.

**Breton**

BaconCatBug wrote:

Some Auras do, most notably Belisarius Cawl's.

And the Chaplains- however as you can see from my original quote people were appearing to refer to that as a blanket can't reroll 1's, fails, etc. which doesn't appear to be the case under the current understanding of the current wording of the current addendum to the current errata

VladimirHerzog wrote:

Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
What were people doing in Overwatch when using it as if it were the shooting phase that they will not be able to do now?

rerolling 1's / failed hits / all hits / wounds

**BaconCatBug**

Breton wrote:
BaconCatBug wrote:

Some Auras do, most notably Belisarius Cawl's.

And the Chaplains- however as you can see from my original quote people were appearing to refer to that as a blanket can't reroll 1's, fails, etc. which doesn't appear to be the case under the current understanding of the current wording of the current addendum to the current errata

VladimirHerzog wrote:

Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
What were people doing in Overwatch when using it as if it were the shooting phase that they will not be able to do now?

rerolling 1's / failed hits / all hits / wounds

He obviously intended to say "rerolling 1's / failed hits / all hits / wounds with Shooting Phase specific auras".

When GW were stating that Overwatch acts "as if" the Shooting Phase it allowed for Cawl's aura to work for Overwatch shooting.