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Hey folks,

This is my first post here, so be gentle with me.. (I know.. paradoxal since we're talking chaos)

I have come across a bunch of the new CSM models and I am somewhat stumped in how to continue building the list I started.
So I come here in asking for some advice on how I can build a somwhat competent list using what I got, or what I would need to buy in order to make it feel like a more complete list.

I want to try to keep it Black Legion as much as possible for now.

What I currently have built:

2 x Lord Discordants
2 x Maulerfiends
2 x Venomcrawlers
2 x Greater Possessed
1 x Master of Possession

As you can see.. what is currently built leans heavily towards a daemon engine list.. but this is where I start to struggle to fill the list out. The aim is to start for 1750pts, and from there take it to 2000

What I currently own is:

90 x Cultits (unpainted)
3 x Boxes of CSM
2 x Boxes of Havocs
1 x Abbaddon (unbuilt)
1 x Dark Apostle (unbuilt)
3 x Obliterators (unpainted)

How would you go about constructing a list using the Daemon Engines with either what I still got unboxed/unpainted - or what would you recommend is the next step for me to buy (be it GW or FW).

Cheers for any help!

Is black legion a given?

If not A red Corsairs min bat or even the full 30 marines would give you a "durable" bunch of Infantry. "recycling goes a long way.

I'd also be carefull with the venomcrawlers, defilers generally do better. For nearly the same pricetag.

Alternativly abbadabdabdab and the mery Band of cultist helping out your daemonengines could work aswell.
However we talk 700 pts then.

It's also an issue since you lack dakka, somewhat.

Not at all needed to be Black Legion -.just that they are painted that way (the things I have built).

And yes, it's the dakka I'm contemplating on how to solve - maybe buying something more to compliment what I have?

MrNibbles wrote:
Not at all needed to be Black Legion -.just that they are painted that way (the things I have built).

And yes, it's the dakka I'm contemplating on how to solve - maybe buying something more to compliment what I have?

Well you could always decide to say screw dakka, use another sorc with warptime and other mobility options and focus on rip and tear.

Maulerfiend suck better off with defilers

 swanson4969 wrote:
Maulerfiend suck better off with defilers

They hardly suck they're better in close combat, will do more wounds to a knight and kill more troops (with lasher tendrils), they move further also. I'd still take a defiler for some high strength (but poor BS) shooting and 2 extra wounds but it's not that bad to take maulerfiends.

 small_gods wrote:

 swanson4969 wrote:
Maulerfiend suck better off with defilers

They hardly suck they're better in close combat, will do more wounds to a knight and kill more troops (with lasher tendrils), they move further also. I'd still take a defiler for some high strength (but poor BS) shooting and 2 extra wounds but it's not that bad to take maulerfiends.

Have to work with what I got.. but as I said, I have no issues getting more models from GW/FW if it makes sense (aka complement what I got, or future proof further lists down the line).

But the plan with this list is to send down the biggies (Maulerfiends, Venomcrawlers and the Disco Lords) in the opponents face, while playing the missions with the rest of the army..

I actually have an idea for what you want to achieve.

You could go for the vigilus special detachment.
Run the MoP as sorcerer with warptime and a jumpack aswell as maybee prescience.

Go as cheap as possible for the troops to generate cp (E.g Warpsmiths and min cultists bats, then you don't need Abbadon)
Or if you really are desperate for points field a min battalion of R&H for 170 pts.

you need enough CP for the dvance + charge strat for the special detachment and for the daemon eninge ones.


If i'd were you and wanted to go with a dakka part of DE lists i'd go for maybee another Lord discordant anda lord with CB and a defiler or two and maybe a dakka fiend (plus don't be me and a moron and magnetize the heads)

I'm not the best to give advice but I will try my best here since I too am interested in a demon engine list. Since you have stated you don't mind getting new units, my choice would be to drop both the venomcrawlers (not as efficient as the other engines) and drop the greater possessed and MOP as it will be tough to keep up. I would instead add in a 3rd Disco Lord and a defiler to the mix. So the melee demon engine lineup would be 3 Disco Lords, 2 maulers and 1 defi rushing up. I would support them by putting some high priority back lines like 3 hellforged contemptors with butcher cannons and fill the rest out with troops and stuff. Alternatively if you aren't too against the idea of having some thousand sons supreme command, you could add in ahriman and 2 TS demon princes for magical support and more threats as the DPs can also wreak faces on their own while marching up behind the cover of your demon engines (also warptime on ahriman with infernal engines means you can try for double first turn charges). This gives you strong melee and physic phases.

Hear is the spear head I use., Roughly 1k points.

I'm not the best to give advice but I will try my best here since I too am interested in a demon engine list. Since you have stated you don't mind getting new units, my choice would be to drop both the venomcrawlers (not as efficient as the other engines) and drop the greater possessed and MOP as it will be tough to keep up. I would instead add in a 3rd Disco Lord and a defiler to the mix. So the melee demon engine lineup would be 3 Disco Lords, 2 maulers and 1 defi rushing up. I would support them by putting some high priority back lines like 3 hellforged contemptors with butcher cannons and fill the rest out with troops and stuff. Alternatively if you aren't too against the idea of having some thousand sons supreme command, you could add in ahriman and 2 TS demon princes for magical support and more threats as the DPs can also wreak faces on their own while marching up behind the cover of your demon engines (also warptime on ahriman with infernal engines means you can try for double first turn charges). This gives you strong melee and physic phases.

Thanks for the advice.. I'll give it a think!