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Nihilakh Dynasty says “...as long as they did not move in the preceding movement phase.”

Does this mean MY preceding Movement Phase or does the Nihilakh Dynasty effectively always get to re-roll 1s while firing Overwatch?

Thanks in advance!

Correct, when the enemy charges you the preceding movement phase is the opponent's movement phase. Therefore you will always (unless there is some niche situation where you can actually move in your opponent's movement phase) get the re-roll on overwatch.

Yes, if it doesnt say enemy or friendly (or similiar), its every movement phase. This is true for every phase in the game.

 PhaseLord wrote:
Nihilakh Dynasty says “...as long as they did not move in the preceding movement phase.”

Does this mean MY preceding Movement Phase or does the Nihilakh Dynasty effectively always get to re-roll 1s while firing Overwatch?

Thanks in advance!

Fairrrrrrrly obvious what the intent of the rule is here, given phrasing of the OP, but RAW blinkers will indeed make it always function.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 PhaseLord wrote:
Nihilakh Dynasty says “...as long as they did not move in the preceding movement phase.”

Does this mean MY preceding Movement Phase or does the Nihilakh Dynasty effectively always get to re-roll 1s while firing Overwatch?

Thanks in advance!

Fairrrrrrrly obvious what the intent of the rule is here, given phrasing of the OP, but RAW blinkers will indeed make it always function.

You may be right about intention, but my niggling doubt there is that several other abilities that came out before were worded so they don't work like this (eg Grim Resolve). It could easily be a mistake being GW, but it might be an intentional distinction, otherwise why change the wording that worked?

Hah, like GW have had proofing or consistency in 8th! We’d not have half the YMDC section if they’d spent more time proofing.

Yeah I don’t know why they didn’t re-use either, but the intent of the rule is screamingly obvious. That, or the author deliberately wrote a rule with no proper function that could have just not mentioned Movement at all and had the same effect as this RAW ‘interpretation’’. Apply Occam’s Razor...

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Hah, like GW have had proofing or consistency in 8th! We’d not have half the YMDC section if they’d spent more time proofing.

Yeah I don’t know why they didn’t re-use either, but the intent of the rule is screamingly obvious. That, or the author deliberately wrote a rule with no proper function that could have just not mentioned Movement at all and had the same effect as this RAW ‘interpretation’’. Apply Occam’s Razor...

I do like to apply a bit of context and nuance to rules interpretation, I'm not sure what they were going for in this one.

It does do something, it affects shooting in your own turn. So it's not an obsolete rule, like some rules become when read using pure RAW. The intention here could be that they always get the re-roll on overwatch, but only situationally in their own turn.

I'm just not certain on the intention here, and so given that default to RAW.

I have to change my answer to no.

Q: If an ability does not state its effects take place in a ‘friendly’
phase or ‘enemy’ phase, does that mean it works in every such
phase (e.g. Mortarion’s Host of Plagues ability, which takes effect
‘at the start of the Fight phase’)?
A: Yes.

The FAQ above refers to an ability. A dynasty choice is not an ability. Abilities are listed on a units datasheet. GW however uses the term ability for a warlord trait.

Page 181 – Ignoring Wounds
Add the following as a boxout on this page:
‘Ignoring Wounds
Some units have abilities that allow them to ignore
the damage suffered each time it loses a wound (e.g.
Disgustingly Resilient, The Flesh is Weak and Tenacious
Survivor). If a model has more than one such ability, you
can only use one of those abilities each time the model
loses a wound.’

It is unknown if GW would call a dynasty choice an ability as well. There is nothing in the rules, or FAQs about it. Until GW clarifies this my answer is no. You cant re-roll 1s when overwatching.

The Flesh is Weak is the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics Trait.

The definition of 'ability' doesn't matter here. That FAQ is a clarification, it doesn't affect the actual rules at all.

The preceding movement phase is the opponent's.

You are correct. I change to yes again.

 Stux wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Hah, like GW have had proofing or consistency in 8th! We’d not have half the YMDC section if they’d spent more time proofing.

Yeah I don’t know why they didn’t re-use either, but the intent of the rule is screamingly obvious. That, or the author deliberately wrote a rule with no proper function that could have just not mentioned Movement at all and had the same effect as this RAW ‘interpretation’’. Apply Occam’s Razor...

I do like to apply a bit of context and nuance to rules interpretation, I'm not sure what they were going for in this one.

It does do something, it affects shooting in your own turn. So it's not an obsolete rule, like some rules become when read using pure RAW. The intention here could be that they always get the re-roll on overwatch, but only situationally in their own turn.

I'm just not certain on the intention here, and so given that default to RAW.

That’s a totally fair solution, but I’d feel a little salty if someone tried to exploit it by claiming this was ‘unclear’, tbh.

I mean, in fairness, if the unit emergency disembarks from a destroyed transport, which iirc counts as moving, then we’d be agreed they would not get to re-roll 1s in subsequent overwatch, right?

sieGermans wrote:
I mean, in fairness, if the unit emergency disembarks from a destroyed transport, which iirc counts as moving, then we’d be agreed they would not get to re-roll 1s in subsequent overwatch, right?

Only if they emergency disembarked in the movement phase. Which might be possible, I think there are some abilities that do damage when you move over something.

Ctans do their MW at the end of the movement phase, so if necrons play against necrons its possible to destroy a night scythe or a monolith in the movement phase.

And we’re back to Occam’s Razor. If it requires an arcane set of happenstances to make the rule function, and we have to search this much for an event that might make the rule (as written) not trigger, then it’s far more likely that the writers just made an error and forgot to write “their previous Movement Phase”. But play it how you will.