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2019/07/22 01:01:54
Subject: Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Not sure if this has been brought up, but just looking for confirmation that I am playing this right.
Targeting a character in shooting =
If it is not the closest unit (that is not a character) you can not target
if you have no LOS then you can not target.
To target a character they must meet both criteria. meaning even if a non-character unit is closer but out of LOS you can not target the character.
Targeting with a smite
You ignore units who are closer if you do not have LOS to that unit
You target the unit that is closest and you have LOS
To target a unit with smite, you can shoot at the next closest unit, if the closer unit is out of LOS.
Does this seem correct ?
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As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/07/22 01:08:18
Subject: Re:Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Lieutenant General
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Smite doesn't target a unit. Smite simply does what it's rules say it does.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
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2019/07/22 01:11:39
Subject: Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sorry, Target may have been a bad word.
The question is,
does smite do d3/d6 wounds to the second closest unit if the closer unit to your psyker is out of its LOS? . Am I interpreting the language correctly ?
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2019/07/22 01:22:41
As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/07/22 01:19:43
Subject: Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Walking Dead Wraithlord
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closest visible enemy unit with 18" suffers D3 mortals.
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2019/07/22 01:21:23
Subject: Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Argive wrote:closest visible enemy unit with 18" suffers D3 mortals.
Yes, that is verbatim smite.
I am just looking for a yes or no answer here guys.
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As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/07/22 01:22:11
Subject: Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Yes, it hits the character. Shooting restrictions apply in the shooting phase, not psychic.
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2019/07/22 01:23:40
Subject: Re:Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Lieutenant General
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From the Warhammer 40,000 Main Rulebook:
... the closest visible enemy unit within 18" of the psyker...
This is all one requirement. A unit that's not visible but is closer has absolutely no effect on Smite.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2019/07/22 01:24:51
Subject: Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 JNAProductions wrote:Yes, it hits the character. Shooting restrictions apply in the shooting phase, not psychic.
wasn't quite my question,
but I think it does answer my question.
just to confirm
"does smite do d3/ d6 wounds to the second closest unit if the closer unit to your psyker is out of its LOS? . Am I interpreting the language correctly ?"
It is in fact different from the character targeting situation where a character is still untargetable if a unit is out of LOS but closer.
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 Ghaz wrote:From the Warhammer 40,000 Main Rulebook:
... the closest visible enemy unit within 18" of the psyker...
This is all one requirement. A unit that's not visible but is closer has absolutely no effect on Smite.
Thank you guys,
Just a bit muddled because of the similarities between the two rules.
But I have been following the rules correctly. 
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/07/22 01:26:32
As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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2019/07/22 01:28:06
Subject: Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yes.
The character targeting rules have no impact on smite. To find out who you smite, identify all the enemy units in LOS. The closest of these units is smote. Ignore all units not in LOS.
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2019/07/22 01:36:33
Subject: Character Targeting Rules v.s. Smite Targets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Aash wrote:Yes.
The character targeting rules have no impact on smite. To find out who you smite, identify all the enemy units in LOS. The closest of these units is smote. Ignore all units not in LOS.
This is all one requirement. A unit that's not visible but is closer has absolutely no effect on Smite.
Perfect,
Thanks for the well explained answers.
All cleared up.
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As an aside, as "infinite" rolls is actually impossible even if the FAQ "allows" it, then it will always be a non-zero chance to pass them all. Eventually the two players will die. If they pass the game on to their decendents, they too will eventually die. And, at the end of it all, the universe will experience heat death and it, too, will die. In the instance of "infinite" hits, we're talking more of functional infinity, rather than literal.
RAW you can't pass the game onto descendants, permissive ruleset. Unless we get an FAQ from GW.
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