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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 10:12:21
Subject: [1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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Hello again! Literally posted yesterday but thought I'd have another go at making a list after some feedback.
My previous list (it's the other Alpha Legion 1000pts, a few threads down) had combi-plasma chosen, noise marines, 2 rhinos, a butcher contemptor and no Hellbrutes or Obliterators. Being a returning player after a long time don't have much knowledge yet, got told noise marines and rhino's are a bit rubbish, unless transporting beserkers. Combi plasma chosen seem fun but v expensive for a small unit in a 1000pt list.
For this list I bumped up the Cultist squads to 20 to give them a bit more punch. The 5 man marine squad is simply for conserving money - I have a 10 man csm squad to build so I thought I could convert 5 to be chosen, save myself some dollar.
The Hellbrute will be babysat by the unequipped lord for the reroll, while the other one will probably lead the chosen. I'm a bit worried that I have no real melee but for 1000pts I thought it would be better to go one way or the other. I still have the Lord and chosen, and I could always swap out a Cultists squads Autoguns.
Obliterators are there to deal with whatever the big threat on the table is. They're literally 1/5th of my army but they have such awesome firepower (as long as I roll good) + buffs I'm hoping that they can deal with most situations.
Chosen have combi bolters. Just cheap and alot of shots for the points, plus Chainswords in combat makes them pretty OK. Had 10 points to spend so gave them an icon, not really sure if it's worth it but hey! Could use the points for an icon on the Cultists, or a powerfist/ 2 power swords somewhere instead.
Mark of tzeetch on sorcerer is for Great Sorcerer, but was wondering if better to take Slannesh so can swap 1 power for Delightful Agonies, but I guess I can play test this.
Hoping this is a semi decent build, please c and c to your hearts content!
Batallion and Vanguard detachments
Sorcerer with jump - 120pts
Force sword
Mark of tzeentch
Chaos Lord - 76pts
Blade of hydra, Combi-bolter, I am Alpharius
Mark of tzeentch
Chaos Lord - 74pts
Mark of tzeentch
Cultist x 20 - 100pts
Autoguns
Mark of slannesh
Cultist x 20 - 100pts
Autoguns
5 Chaos marines - 65pts
Mark of slannesh
5 Chosen 80pts
Chainswords and combi bolters
Icon of Slannesh
Hellbrute - auto and missile = 90
Mark of slannesh
Hellbrute - auto and missile = 90
Mark of slannesh
Obliterators - 195pts
Mark of Slannesh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 10:55:03
Subject: Re:[1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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obliterators are now 115 pts / obliterator.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 11:09:58
Subject: [1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Ah damnnnnnnn. Is that in errata?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 11:29:29
Subject: [1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Na shadowspear spear shafted them.
You have shadowspear add on or csm codex 2.0?
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 11:44:25
Subject: [1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Csm codex 2. 0. Lol being a new returning player have to say there are a lot of supplements this addition haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 11:47:45
Subject: [1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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TheCuriousToad wrote:Csm codex 2. 0. Lol being a new returning player have to say there are a lot of supplements this addition haha
That was a typo, GW has no quality controll.
The unit is 1-3 obliterators attacks 115 per Obliterator.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 12:07:11
Subject: [1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Not Online!!! wrote:TheCuriousToad wrote:Csm codex 2. 0. Lol being a new returning player have to say there are a lot of supplements this addition haha
That was a typo, GW has no quality controll.
The unit is 1-3 obliterators attacks 115 per Obliterator.
Yeah seems to be the case. Thanks for clearing that up. Well, in this list size even 2 Obliterators is quite a big chunk of point. Would a 5man havoc squad round off this list instead? Was thinking 2 Las 2 chain cannons/launchers (just like the model for the chain cannon lol) or would it be better to use points somewhere else?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 12:36:09
Subject: [1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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TheCuriousToad wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:TheCuriousToad wrote:Csm codex 2. 0. Lol being a new returning player have to say there are a lot of supplements this addition haha
That was a typo, GW has no quality controll.
The unit is 1-3 obliterators attacks 115 per Obliterator.
Yeah seems to be the case. Thanks for clearing that up. Well, in this list size even 2 Obliterators is quite a big chunk of point. Would a 5man havoc squad round off this list instead? Was thinking 2 Las 2 chain cannons/launchers (just like the model for the chain cannon lol) or would it be better to use points somewhere else?
issue is with havocs that they really are squishy.
Doubly so with expensive armament and tripple so with the short range on the chaincannon.
however you also need AT.
Tricky question.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 14:37:54
Subject: Re:[1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Mark of slanesh oblits are definately still worth the points. Take the devastation battery specialist detachment and a jump pack/Terminators lord with armour bane and daemins eye. 3 will one shot a knight, 2 might even do it. It solves all your anti armour needs in one go at 1k points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 17:28:09
Subject: [1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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small_gods wrote: Mark of slanesh oblits are definately still worth the points. Take the devastation battery specialist detachment and a jump pack/Terminators lord with armour bane and daemins eye. 3 will one shot a knight, 2 might even do it. It solves all your anti armour needs in one go at 1k points.
Hmmm that's not a bad shout. I'll take a look at juggling some lists around and see how many points I can spare, 3 Obliterators would really take a chunk of my army up, but maybe 2! Thanks for the combo advice Automatically Appended Next Post: This is my revised list again. Goodness I hope I've managed to get all the points right this time haha. Good feedback for devastator battalion but I'm happy with AL right now, can always test it in game though! Not much has changed, gave Lord a backpack, took 10 Cultists out, 1 Obliterator was removed and points amended. Also gave one Hellbrute a plasma, instead of both autocannon. For 6 pts, means I will at least threaten armor more, so not all my eggs are in the Obliterator basket. Does this feel like a half decent, well rounded list? Thanks if you've got time for feedback
AL Batallion and Vanguard detachment
Sorcerer with Jump pack- 120pts
Force sword
Mark of Tzeentch
Chaos Lord with Jump pack- 95pts
Blade of hydra, Combi-bolter, I am Alpharius
Mark of Tzeentch
Chaos Lord - 74pts
Mark of Tzeentch
Cultist x 15 - 75pts
Autoguns
Mark of Slannesh
Cultist x 15 - 75pts
Autoguns
Mark of Slannesh
5 Chaos marines - 65pts
Mark of Slannesh
5 Chosen 80pts
Chainswords and combi bolters
Mark of Slannesh
Hellbrute - autocannon and missile = 90
Mark of Slannesh
Hellbrute - plasma and missile = 96
Mark of Slannesh
2 Obliterators 230pts
Mark of Slannesh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/25 22:02:27
Subject: [1000] - Alpha legion - Revised list for improved dakka!
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Seems decent, however just for flexibility sake i'd make one cultists squad 20 für better Profit from the recycling stratagem.
But that is minor really.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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