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 Galef wrote:
Another, potentially simpler idea would be the following:

Every army requires at least a Partrol, a Battalion or Super Heavy detachment to start. No detachment can be duplicated, but you can have as many different detachments as you want.

CPs are no longer generated by detachments, but by army size. Battle Forged armies grant 3CPs for each 500pts of the army limit (so 12CPs for 2000pts). At the start of each battle round, you gain +1CP if your WL is alive.

Now everyone gets the same amount of CPs regardless of detachment, but are required to take a specific one to start.

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This is the way, also, it also requires armies to have to actually use their troops unless they are knights.. Have an exalt.

 iGuy91 wrote:

 Galef wrote:
Another, potentially simpler idea would be the following:

Every army requires at least a Partrol, a Battalion or Super Heavy detachment to start. No detachment can be duplicated, but you can have as many different detachments as you want.

CPs are no longer generated by detachments, but by army size. Battle Forged armies grant 3CPs for each 500pts of the army limit (so 12CPs for 2000pts). At the start of each battle round, you gain +1CP if your WL is alive.

Now everyone gets the same amount of CPs regardless of detachment, but are required to take a specific one to start.

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This is the way, also, it also requires armies to have to actually use their troops unless they are knights.. Have an exalt.

Privateer Press has recently changed their Themes so that the "free models" you can Requisition for your army are based on army size instead of how many points of a model type you're using. It has opened up a lot more options of building up certain Themes as a result.

This could be interesting to test out.

 iGuy91 wrote:

 Galef wrote:
Another, potentially simpler idea would be the following:

Every army requires at least a Partrol, a Battalion or Super Heavy detachment to start. No detachment can be duplicated, but you can have as many different detachments as you want.

CPs are no longer generated by detachments, but by army size. Battle Forged armies grant 3CPs for each 500pts of the army limit (so 12CPs for 2000pts). At the start of each battle round, you gain +1CP if your WL is alive.

Now everyone gets the same amount of CPs regardless of detachment, but are required to take a specific one to start.

-

This is the way, also, it also requires armies to have to actually use their troops unless they are knights.. Have an exalt.

I'd argue that forcing people to take troops is a bad thing. It favors armies with troops that are cheap and/or cost-effective and punishes those that aren't. Plus, it sometimes makes it a bit trickier to field a thematic army. If I'm playing Saim-Hann, I don't necessarily want to find points for a transport to carry some infantry to avoid breaking my "everything is fast and flying" theme.

If you have to "force" people to use troops, then those troops are poorly designed and you're basically just forcing your opponent to play with a disadvantage.


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 Charistoph wrote:

Wyldhunt wrote:
I really like the idea of themed detachments, but I'm not sure how you do them without just bringing back formations (and all their associated problems) and/or punishing people for not playing one of the handful of formations that get created. You wanted to play Greenwing Dark Angels? Pfft. Only Ravenwing and Deathwing have detachments. Guess you can nerf yourself by playing the generic option instead.

Another question with them is: Why can't you just do that with combining the current default detachments?

You can absolutely field a very thematic army with the current default detachments!

... But you get punished for doing so by suffering a huge CP disparity. (Double batallion army vs a double outrider army is 13 CP versus 5 CP).