Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Hi all, anybody here are using vallejo game air paint on their minis. I have tried the sun yellow as the base color of my IF, but i am encountering a weird problem when I use it with my airbrush.

It seems that when I start spraying, the color is really bright yellow but the more I spray, the more the color turns dark yellow or more orange. This makes it really hard to have a consistent color on the model, let alone between models.

Anybody has an idea? Isbit because the color is really more dark and it takes good amount of paint to obtain the real color or it will keep getting darker the more I spray?

That seems strange. I don't think it's to do with how much paint you need to get through to get the actual colour.

Are you spraying over a white basecoat? If so, my best bet is that the darker tone is just because there is increasing layers of paint accumulating on the model, and that is the actual colour, with the earlier lighter tone being due to the layers being less opaque and seeming brighter due to the light undercoat.

If this is the case, then you could try applying less layers, or lightening up your yellow.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
That seems strange. I don't think it's to do with how much paint you need to get through to get the actual colour.

Are you spraying over a white basecoat? If so, my best bet is that the darker tone is just because there is increasing layers of paint accumulating on the model, and that is the actual colour, with the earlier lighter tone being due to the layers being less opaque and seeming brighter due to the light undercoat.

If this is the case, then you could try applying less layers, or lightening up your yellow.

What QAR said. I found with the Vallejo paint to darken the more layers you do.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
That seems strange. I don't think it's to do with how much paint you need to get through to get the actual colour.

Are you spraying over a white basecoat? If so, my best bet is that the darker tone is just because there is increasing layers of paint accumulating on the model, and that is the actual colour, with the earlier lighter tone being due to the layers being less opaque and seeming brighter due to the light undercoat.

If this is the case, then you could try applying less layers, or lightening up your yellow.

Yes, I am basecoating on a white primer.

Your probably right about the darker tone being the real color. he problem then is that it is really hard to have a layer that is exactly the same everywhere on the model. Either some part are too light compare to others, or the darker part have so much paint that it start to affect the details of the model.

Maybe I should do many light layer and let them dry in-between until the real color build up, hopefully they will be light enough to not cover the details?


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 Argive wrote:


What QAR said. I found with the Vallejo paint to darken the more layers you do.

Other paint don't do that? (GW?)

So painting over different layers is something you'll learn as a painter. If you paint over white, and only apply a layer or 2, you'll have a nice bright tone. Do the same over black, and you'll have a dark tone, and possibly require more layers to get the colour you want. This applies to most paints, and is useful as it allows for things like pre shading and pre highlighting.

My suggestion is to try some pre shading. Load up your airbrush with some brown, not too dark. Apply this to the lower and underside areas on your model, and areas you want to be darker.. Lower parts of panels etc. Then apply your yellow over the top.

The result will be that you get differening tones to represent shadow, and light, and it may mitigate having to use tons of layers. You'll still have to build up layers, and yes, you should be allowing them to dry between adding more (they should dry fairly rapidly)

Seems you are right. I tried many thin layer and you can see the color building up. It is getting darker after each layer but after a certain point, which seems to be the real color, it does not change anymore. This is logical, it is just that I didn't think that this yellow was that dark. The color Inwant is more like the first or second layer.

So looks lile I will have to order and try a lighter yellow to have the look I am looking for.