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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/15 17:30:50
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Ok let's go with this scenario.
Imperial Forces recover Ferrus Manus' head and the rest of him and joined his head back to his body. Could they perform any sort of sorcery/psyker rituals / use technology in resurrecting him and bringing the Iron Hands Primarch back?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/15 18:32:36
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Outside of the Emperor doing it himself (which he implied he could do to Malcador in one of the HH short stories and somewhat did when he was brought back as a wraith during the ending stages of the Webway War in Master of Mankind), the Imperials likely don't have the means to do so. The only person who brought him back in any sense of the word was actually Fabius Bile, who did so several times for Fulgrim so that Fulgrim could attempt to turn him to heresy but failed each time and had to kill the clone. It's unclear if these clones retained any part of Ferrus' soul, since they had his memories up until the start of the Heresy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/15 20:04:04
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Is it known what happened to Ferrus Manus' head and body? Did Iron Hands succeed in acquiring them from Fulgrim and EC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/15 21:49:46
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Norn Queen
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Possibly. Unlike Glorious Hawkboi his soul wasn't destroyed and as mentioned Bile already made several clones but they weren't that stable because they lacked wibbly wobbly emperor powers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/16 02:46:23
Subject: Re:Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Please no.
But, Primarchs do sell. So....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/16 23:07:52
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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I am not sure even the Big E could resurrect Ferrus. He summoned his soul briefly in Master of Mankind in a Legion-of-the-Damned-esque state but that was only temporary.
Remember that he could not remove the Nails from Angron without killing him. Just because he made the Primarchs does not mean he can repair them from any level of damage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/18 05:46:58
Subject: Re:Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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That was a question that I had also and tried to figure out how it might be possible. Yes, his head was recovered by the Ultramarines and Imperial Fists. Yes, his body lies on Mars. Yes, Ferrus Manus lives on in spirit form, as told in the Battle of Terra when the Emperor summons him. They could try to reassemble him, but how they would be able to regenerate his neurons, brain, eyes, etc. Ferrus Manus wanted to shed his arms coated with living metal, stating that he nor the Iron Hands should replace flesh with metal. So, I am guessing they may try to clone him, much like Fulgrim did many a times and incorporate his soul back into the body. Thus he has fulfilled his promise to abandon machines/bionics and can live the way he wanted. I think the latter is more possible than the former. Just my 2 cents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/18 07:21:41
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Karhedron wrote:I am not sure even the Big E could resurrect Ferrus. He summoned his soul briefly in Master of Mankind in a Legion-of-the-Damned-esque state but that was only temporary.
Remember that he could not remove the Nails from Angron without killing him. Just because he made the Primarchs does not mean he can repair them from any level of damage.
Didn't he bring Vulcan back?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/18 09:56:22
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Tyzarion_Kronius wrote:Is it known what happened to Ferrus Manus' head and body? Did Iron Hands succeed in acquiring them from Fulgrim and EC.
The Iron Hands might have his skull and bits of his body, depending on how you read certain things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/18 10:05:40
Subject: Re:Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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Psionara wrote:That was a question that I had also and tried to figure out how it might be possible. Yes, his head was recovered by the Ultramarines and Imperial Fists. Yes, his body lies on Mars. Yes, Ferrus Manus lives on in spirit form, as told in the Battle of Terra when the Emperor summons him. They could try to reassemble him, but how they would be able to regenerate his neurons, brain, eyes, etc. Ferrus Manus wanted to shed his arms coated with living metal, stating that he nor the Iron Hands should replace flesh with metal. So, I am guessing they may try to clone him, much like Fulgrim did many a times and incorporate his soul back into the body. Thus he has fulfilled his promise to abandon machines/bionics and can live the way he wanted. I think the latter is more possible than the former. Just my 2 cents.
Seems like the IH didn't read the fine print. I'm sure neither them nor the Admech care for the wishes of their patient and would make him a giant robot, if they had the means to.
Maybe putting the spirit into a looted necrodermis?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/18 17:18:08
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Andersp90 wrote: Karhedron wrote:I am not sure even the Big E could resurrect Ferrus. He summoned his soul briefly in Master of Mankind in a Legion-of-the-Damned-esque state but that was only temporary.
Remember that he could not remove the Nails from Angron without killing him. Just because he made the Primarchs does not mean he can repair them from any level of damage.
Didn't he bring Vulcan back?
That was less the Emperor deliberately bringing him back and more of Vulkan being intrinsically a perpetual, which is his own personal reset life button.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/18 17:26:50
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Grimskul wrote: Andersp90 wrote: Karhedron wrote:I am not sure even the Big E could resurrect Ferrus. He summoned his soul briefly in Master of Mankind in a Legion-of-the-Damned-esque state but that was only temporary.
Remember that he could not remove the Nails from Angron without killing him. Just because he made the Primarchs does not mean he can repair them from any level of damage.
Didn't he bring Vulcan back?
That was less the Emperor deliberately bringing him back and more of Vulkan being intrinsically a perpetual, which is his own personal reset life button.
"rise vulcan, and do what it is I brought you back from death to do".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/18 19:58:19
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That would be truly ridiculous. He is, after all, one of the Primarchs who was, without any shadow of a doubt, killed.
I don't think they should be bringing any Primarchs back, but if they are - they need to make sure they are at least the ones who aren't definitely and unequivocally dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/18 20:03:37
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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I could see him coming back, BUT not for Iron Hands.
The aforementioned appearance in the webway war is accompanied by the appearance of something strongly resembling the legion of the Damned.
As/When/If GW re-does Legion Of The Damned, Having 'ghost ferrus manus' provides the possibility of a second iconic character alongside Centurius.
I have a personal suspicion the Animus Malorem might be ferrus' skull.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/18 20:38:49
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Andersp90 wrote: Grimskul wrote: Andersp90 wrote: Karhedron wrote:I am not sure even the Big E could resurrect Ferrus. He summoned his soul briefly in Master of Mankind in a Legion-of-the-Damned-esque state but that was only temporary.
Remember that he could not remove the Nails from Angron without killing him. Just because he made the Primarchs does not mean he can repair them from any level of damage.
Didn't he bring Vulcan back?
That was less the Emperor deliberately bringing him back and more of Vulkan being intrinsically a perpetual, which is his own personal reset life button.
"rise vulcan, and do what it is I brought you back from death to do".
Right, but that seems unique to Vulkan and given that the Emperor stole power from the Chaos Gods to create them, the caveat appears that he can't just replicate traits like that. Even if he were able to, it doesn't seem wise to have constantly reviving generals across the board if you're expecting the Heresy at some level.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/19 13:47:40
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like to think the original Ferrus head is plugged into a helbrute some where, completely insane and with no concept of his heritage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/01/20 08:37:31
Subject: Could Ferrus Manus come back?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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There's all kinds of ways Ferrus Manus could be resurrected. I definitely wouldn't rule anything out.
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