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Khorne cares not from where the blood comes! But what if it’s not quite blood? Does the killing of tyrannids feed khorne or is it a wasted effort on his part.

I assume that when nids kill it has no effect on the chaos gods.

Also when the nids turn a planet into biomass for them to eat are they stealing from nurgle? Taking away the decay that Would have fed him??
   
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Sneaky Lictor




Iirc khorne is not impressed by the spilling of tyranid ichor. I'm not sure what his stance on nid skulls is though.

Tyranids doing tyranid things does not feed the chaos gods afaik.

I'm not sure about the third question.
   
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader




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I'd say for your actions to fuel the Chaos gods you have to meet both requirements:

1. You need to have a soul aka a presence in the warp

Example:
- Necrons don't have a presence and can't interact with the warp.

2. Your race doesn't have a deity of their own that would take up your action's "energy"

Example:
- Orcs do have a presence, but Gork and Mork take all their warp energy.


Tyranids are shown to be a kind of "negative warp" as in they are able to cast spells, but their psychic presence makes it difficult for regular warp users to harness their powers.

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There was a chaos lord who was going around collecting various Tyranid skulls for KHORNE in the 7th ED CSM codex. He had vowed to take a skull from every creature in the galaxy and he found the Tyranids. Given the adapting abilities this meant a lot of skulls and a happy chaos lord.

In general Tyranids and Chaos interact oddly. Neither really cares about the other but mortal biomass is mortal biomass and skulls are skulls.

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Kildare, Ireland

mrFickle wrote:
Khorne cares not from where the blood comes! But what if it’s not quite blood? Does the killing of tyrannids feed khorne or is it a wasted effort on his part.

I assume that when nids kill it has no effect on the chaos gods.


These are very good questions which I don't have clear answers to. I suspect that as Tyranids don't have emotional sentience in the way traditional races do, the chaos gods can't feed off their actions or deaths in the same way.
Tyranid players may not like the title of NPC race but it definitely applies in this instance- being killed by Tyranids is like being killed by a stampede of any animal- its not a moral decision or mishap in the same way that a poorly maintained machine killing you might feed Nurgle.
The exception might be genestealers and hybrids in particular, who have been shown to have thoughts and desires apart from the hivemind.

Also when the nids turn a planet into biomass for them to eat are they stealing from nurgle? Taking away the decay that Would have fed him??

Nurgle might see it that way, if he claims all entropy and decay as inevitable. Every immortal perpetual and chaos champion is also stealing from nurgle by that metric, so I don't think its particularly accurate. It weakens him in the same way that it weakens Tzeentch that all the inhabitants weren't driven to madness or magic before they died.
   
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I would imagine that Khorne is not literally feeding off the blood itself, but rather the suffering, and pain of death that occurs when it is taken - the psychic anguish of a death.

A tyranid organism being killed won't have that, its akin to you or I shedding some dead skin cells I suppose; any individual organism is essentially not worthy of note to the greater hive mind at all.

   
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If I recall correctly the Tryanids aren't any sort of 'negative warp', it's just that their synaptic network connects through the warp and there are so many signals near a hive fleet that everything else gets drowned out.

   
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 Kcalehc wrote:
I would imagine that Khorne is not literally feeding off the blood itself, but rather the suffering, and pain of death that occurs when it is taken - the psychic anguish of a death.

A tyranid organism being killed won't have that, its akin to you or I shedding some dead skin cells I suppose; any individual organism is essentially not worthy of note to the greater hive mind at all.



So is khorne thriving on the actions of the murderer I.e. the blood lust and martial supremacy, or the death of the murdered and perhaps their soul?

If it the former, if one were to kill with no emotional reaction is khorne denied

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Probably a combination of both. The warp is all about emotional and spiritual energy.

It's probably safe to say that the Chaos gods are not real big on rules lawyering the edge cases (well, maybe Tzeentch if you come up with something really interesting).

That's why the hypotheticals about the limits of Lucius the Eternal's resurrection powers can end up extremely dull. He keeps getting to come back because he has the favor of Slaneesh for being a twisted, brilliant, depraved fighter .If he died in some particularly dull or unfitting way (stepped on unknowingly by a titan. Didn't look both ways before crossing the street and got run over by a plague crawler, on a space ship that got blowed up real good) Slaneesh just might be too bored of him to bother keeping him around anymore.

(what are Lucius' current rules, anyway? Only comes back when slain in CC?)

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It has been stated that Tyranid heads can be found at the foot of Khorne's throne, and that alien ichor does flow in his realm. I think that this might be a case of some trophies being worth more than others. Beings with a significant presence in the warp, especially great warriors, are very much of interest to Khorne, both as followers and as trophies. Other creatures might be accepted as well (killing a hive tyrant, especially just in melee, would be quite the feat), though due to their relative lack of sentience (individuals, not the Hive Mind) and especially the Tyranids' almost having basically no souls and a lack of knowledge of true and honorable (they just swarm their opponents), their skulls and blood might not be valued as much.
   
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 Bookwrack wrote:

(what are Lucius' current rules, anyway? Only comes back when slain in CC?)


He's got nothing that alludes to his constant reincarnation in his current rules. His armor is basically the deathguard's suppurating plate and he gets 2 additionnal attacks if he 1v1's a character
   
 
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